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1) I'm puzzled how a disgraceful for 3/4 of the season team can have 31 points and be 9th?

2) It isn't a weak squad, now playing in a system and formation that suits them they have a good chance of a top half finish

3) Sure some extra quality players would be nice. But getting the new recruitment man as the club have said will arrive in the summer is key to any future transfer strategy. Spending money before he arrived and in an inflated January market isn't a good idea

 

I’ll solve that puzzle for you...

 

1) if it hadn’t been for a freak run over the past month, we’d be 10-16 points worse off and bottom of the table. Or are you suggesting that the first half of this season has been acceptable?

 

2) The squad is weak. A strong squad doesn’t lose 9-0

 

3) Agree about not overspending in Jan. but don’t make your squad weaker.

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I’ll solve that puzzle for you...

 

1) if it hadn’t been for a freak run over the past month, we’d be 10-16 points worse off and bottom of the table. Or are you suggesting that the first half of this season has been acceptable?

 

2) The squad is weak. A strong squad doesn’t lose 9-0

 

3) Agree about not overspending in Jan. but don’t make your squad weaker.

 

A run of good results is 'freak'

 

A run of losses is a **** team and a weak squad

 

I thought you were one of the more sensible ones

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A run of good results is 'freak'

 

A run of losses is a **** team and a weak squad

 

I thought you were one of the more sensible ones

 

He's got a point. We couldn't have planned for Ings going on a best-in-career scoring streak, and if you take away even a couple of his goals over the run, we're probably six points worse off and dicing it down with Villa.

 

We've put in some fantastic team performances recently, but Ings' form and fitness have been miraculous.

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A philosophical question....

 

If an ITK says we're trying to sign a certain player and then the transfer falls through, is he or is he not an ITK?

 

Ha!! According to established forum law, he'd be a liar and/or skate. On a related theme, if a player rejects us and/or a terms can't be agreed, then the club and its staff are useless.

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A run of good results is 'freak'

 

A run of losses is a **** team and a weak squad

 

I thought you were one of the more sensible ones

 

It’s been much more than a run of losses. We’ve been on the decline for 3 or 4 seasons. A freak run is probably unfair, but Our form throughout December and January was out of the norm. We’ve been fantastic, players who are below average have played out of their skin (Stephens). Players who usually get injured 4 times a season have come through unscathed (ings). And As well as we’ve played, we’ve had a slice of luck... and long may it continue.

 

We currently have a squad of 10 or 11 players who are massively overachieving and a very very good manager. That’s not sustainable however you dress it up.

 

Reality is, if we want to remain a top table team, we need to improve on 3 or 4 positions and that’s not taking into consideration anyone we may lose.

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He's got a point. We couldn't have planned for Ings going on a best-in-career scoring streak, and if you take away even a couple of his goals over the run, we're probably six points worse off and dicing it down with Villa.

 

We've put in some fantastic team performances recently, but Ings' form and fitness have been miraculous.

 

take away his goal against Watford (which should have been ruled out for handball..) then I doubt Ralph would still be here

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Looks like it's shaping up to be the usual January transfer window then.

Squad weakened yet again. Glaringly obvious problems not solved. "Promises" not fulfilled.

 

Didn't expect anything different :)

 

Hope we stay up!

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Saints continue to be the net spend Champions again. I feel sorry for Ralph who really could get Saints to challenge for Europe if he was backed by the board with transfers. Saints Might be safe from relegation this season but if the lack of investment and ambition continues Saints will soon be in trouble again.

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Anyway, given we wanted EXTRA full backs and currently will be 1 in 1 out...is there ANY chance we'll sign another by the weekend???

 

Any ITKs?

 

I don't doubt we'd stupid enough to not make a proper signing, I'm just hoping I'm wrong and we'll get someone else too. KWP plus an extra full back is a decent enough window.

 

Losing Cedric and gaining someone inexperienced who might not even be more than a short term loan? That's a poor window.

 

I can’t see us bringing in another fullback over the heads of kwp and Valery especially given the big deal made about kwp also being able to play left back.

Personally i’d Like to see a loan cm if there’s going to be anyone else.

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Typical Saints recruitment Bluster, that turns out to be bull-S.H.I.T

 

In fairness they have toned down the bluster this year. No 'suggestions'/hints/leaks/or just media speculation even of a Promes, Walcott or similar.

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Walker-Peters and Valery trained today...

Perhaps Valery's return, sooner than was thought, is the reason Cedric is being allowed to leave (assuming that happens) in the Window?

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Perhaps Valery's return, sooner than was thought, is the reason Cedric is being allowed to leave (assuming that happens) in the Window?

 

We've lost most of the games Valery has played in so I'm not sure that his return to the team would be such a good thing. To be fair to Valery though, our results when Cedric hasn't played have generally been terrible.

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Apparently we are cutting Danso's loan short, according to Twitter..

 

Not one for the future then/saving the pennies?

 

To be fair, he is shyte

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Not one for the future then/saving the pennies?

 

To be fair, he is shyte

 

Seems a waste of a loan slot & wages when we only play him rarely, and out of position. Love to think it would mean we can bring someone else in, but..

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Apparently we are cutting Danso's loan short, according to Twitter..
If true (very unlikely, it's Twitter) he won't be missed too much. Has the physical attributes to be a very good player but no good for us right now.

 

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Not one for the future then/saving the pennies?

 

To be fair, he is shyte

 

He will be League One'ing it within 3 seasons.

 

Utter tripe, despite his unfamiliarity with the positions he's had to play.

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seems we are covered enough so makes sense.

 

RB - KWP/JV

CB - JB/JS/MY/JV

LB - RB/JV(or KWP)

 

Seems ok for the remaining 14 games no?

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seems we are covered enough so makes sense.

 

RB - KWP/JV

CB - JB/JS/MY/JV

LB - RB/JV(or KWP)

 

Seems ok for the remaining 14 games no?

 

Vestergaard at right back?

 

Is this for real?

 

It will be Ward-Prowse before vest

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Sheff U close to signing Sander Berge for £28m

 

They've not had to sell anyone either :rolleyes:

 

They have a very cheaply assembled squad from the championship on championship wages, and now pretty much have guaranteed two years worth of PL TV money, so they will have plenty of room in the budget for signings.

 

We don't because we have a squad on PL wages.

 

Once/IF they stay in the PL for like 4-5 years then they will likely be the same as they will have new contracts and new players demanding £70k plus a week because of the PL money.

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They have a very cheaply assembled squad from the championship on championship wages, and now pretty much have guaranteed two years worth of PL TV money, so they will have plenty of room in the budget for signings.

 

We don't because we have a squad on PL wages.

 

Once/IF they stay in the PL for like 4-5 years then they will likely be the same as they will have new contracts and new players demanding £70k plus a week because of the PL money.

 

No different to when we came up. The first two years we spent big on Gaston, Jay Rod, Wanyama, Lovren, Osvaldo and half a dosen more in the £2-5m category.

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No different to when we came up. The first two years we spent big on Gaston, Jay Rod, Wanyama, Lovren, Osvaldo and half a dosen more in the £2-5m category.

 

Exactly.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if their wage budget was less than half ours.

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Sheff U close to signing Sander Berge for £28m

 

They've not had to sell anyone either :rolleyes:

 

Another club we cannot compete with.

 

They have more disposable income from TV money. Their wage budget is tiny compared to ours which allows them to spend TV money that Saints have tied up with wages.

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Adam Blackmore

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#SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him.

 

On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances

 

RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window

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Adam Blackmore

@AdamBlackmore

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11m

#SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him.

 

On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances

 

RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window

 

Who needs extra fullbacks anyway?! :)

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Adam Blackmore

@AdamBlackmore

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11m

#SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him.

 

On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances

 

RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window

 

No strengthening done in the window again, arguably weaker. Ho hum.

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Last one we brought in like that was Gunn. I like him but he's not exactly shown his worth, and I can't imagine it will encourage our already-thrifty owner to spend on a highly rated, but not completed needed, player.

Posted
That's a bargain, great signing for them.

 

Shows how inflexible we are wage wise. Imagine we'd need to ship out a fair few before a signing like that. Not necessarily what we need most but when a really decent player is available like that it's a shame not to go for it. Guess it depends if we think Boufal is staying long term and can work out. Would love to think so but just never seems like it.

 

Similar money to Adams and similar record in the Championship. May be a good deal, but no guarantee he'll step up to Premier League standard. CP supporters may be slagging him off in a few months time just like some on here are slagging off Adams.

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No different to when we came up. The first two years we spent big on Gaston, Jay Rod, Wanyama, Lovren, Osvaldo and half a dosen more in the £2-5m category.

 

How do you explain the fact that our nerest clubs in the net spend table, Burnley and Crystal Palace have spent over £50m more than they’ve made from transfers in the same period we’ve made a profit? They’ve both been in the premier league that time

Posted
Hell of a deal for Hull. He’s out of contract this summer.

 

It does but Hull have option for another year so wouldn’t be free in summer

Posted
seems we are covered enough so makes sense.

 

RB - KWP/JV

CB - JB/JS/MY/JV

LB - RB/JV(or KWP)

 

Seems ok for the remaining 14 games no?

Still in the FA Cup and still have a chance of Europe....Think it will be luck more than ambition
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Adam Blackmore

@AdamBlackmore

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11m

#SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him.

 

On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances

 

RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window

 

Might as well close this thread,save a day of waste.

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How do you explain the fact that our nerest clubs in the net spend table, Burnley and Crystal Palace have spent over £50m more than they’ve made from transfers in the same period we’ve made a profit? They’ve both been in the premier league that time
Less high profile big money flops than us, still here on massive wages. Players like lemina, Forster, Elyounoussi, hoedt are on higher wages likely than most people in Burnleys team and we can barely give them away. When people discuss netspend they rarely consider the wage bill which is the actual killer. consider we pay the 4 previously mentioned about 14m a year between them that's where our money goes.

 

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