SKD Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 1) I'm puzzled how a disgraceful for 3/4 of the season team can have 31 points and be 9th? 2) It isn't a weak squad, now playing in a system and formation that suits them they have a good chance of a top half finish 3) Sure some extra quality players would be nice. But getting the new recruitment man as the club have said will arrive in the summer is key to any future transfer strategy. Spending money before he arrived and in an inflated January market isn't a good idea I’ll solve that puzzle for you... 1) if it hadn’t been for a freak run over the past month, we’d be 10-16 points worse off and bottom of the table. Or are you suggesting that the first half of this season has been acceptable? 2) The squad is weak. A strong squad doesn’t lose 9-0 3) Agree about not overspending in Jan. but don’t make your squad weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 A philosophical question.... If an ITK says we're trying to sign a certain player and then the transfer falls through, is he or is he not an ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 I’ll solve that puzzle for you... 1) if it hadn’t been for a freak run over the past month, we’d be 10-16 points worse off and bottom of the table. Or are you suggesting that the first half of this season has been acceptable? 2) The squad is weak. A strong squad doesn’t lose 9-0 3) Agree about not overspending in Jan. but don’t make your squad weaker. A run of good results is 'freak' A run of losses is a **** team and a weak squad I thought you were one of the more sensible ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 A run of good results is 'freak' A run of losses is a **** team and a weak squad I thought you were one of the more sensible ones He's got a point. We couldn't have planned for Ings going on a best-in-career scoring streak, and if you take away even a couple of his goals over the run, we're probably six points worse off and dicing it down with Villa. We've put in some fantastic team performances recently, but Ings' form and fitness have been miraculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 A philosophical question.... If an ITK says we're trying to sign a certain player and then the transfer falls through, is he or is he not an ITK? Ha!! According to established forum law, he'd be a liar and/or skate. On a related theme, if a player rejects us and/or a terms can't be agreed, then the club and its staff are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 A run of good results is 'freak' A run of losses is a **** team and a weak squad I thought you were one of the more sensible ones It’s been much more than a run of losses. We’ve been on the decline for 3 or 4 seasons. A freak run is probably unfair, but Our form throughout December and January was out of the norm. We’ve been fantastic, players who are below average have played out of their skin (Stephens). Players who usually get injured 4 times a season have come through unscathed (ings). And As well as we’ve played, we’ve had a slice of luck... and long may it continue. We currently have a squad of 10 or 11 players who are massively overachieving and a very very good manager. That’s not sustainable however you dress it up. Reality is, if we want to remain a top table team, we need to improve on 3 or 4 positions and that’s not taking into consideration anyone we may lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 He's got a point. We couldn't have planned for Ings going on a best-in-career scoring streak, and if you take away even a couple of his goals over the run, we're probably six points worse off and dicing it down with Villa. We've put in some fantastic team performances recently, but Ings' form and fitness have been miraculous. take away his goal against Watford (which should have been ruled out for handball..) then I doubt Ralph would still be here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 (edited) Looks like it's shaping up to be the usual January transfer window then. Squad weakened yet again. Glaringly obvious problems not solved. "Promises" not fulfilled. Didn't expect anything different Hope we stay up! Edited 29 January, 2020 by BotleySaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookwit Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Saints continue to be the net spend Champions again. I feel sorry for Ralph who really could get Saints to challenge for Europe if he was backed by the board with transfers. Saints Might be safe from relegation this season but if the lack of investment and ambition continues Saints will soon be in trouble again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Anyway, given we wanted EXTRA full backs and currently will be 1 in 1 out...is there ANY chance we'll sign another by the weekend??? Any ITKs? I don't doubt we'd stupid enough to not make a proper signing, I'm just hoping I'm wrong and we'll get someone else too. KWP plus an extra full back is a decent enough window. Losing Cedric and gaining someone inexperienced who might not even be more than a short term loan? That's a poor window. I can’t see us bringing in another fullback over the heads of kwp and Valery especially given the big deal made about kwp also being able to play left back. Personally i’d Like to see a loan cm if there’s going to be anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Walker-Peters and Valery trained today... Straight down to work for @KWPeters on day one with #SaintsFC! https://t.co/XoGdVocJ8o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Typical Saints recruitment Bluster, that turns out to be bull-S.H.I.T In fairness they have toned down the bluster this year. No 'suggestions'/hints/leaks/or just media speculation even of a Promes, Walcott or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Walker-Peters and Valery trained today... Perhaps Valery's return, sooner than was thought, is the reason Cedric is being allowed to leave (assuming that happens) in the Window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Perhaps Valery's return, sooner than was thought, is the reason Cedric is being allowed to leave (assuming that happens) in the Window? We've lost most of the games Valery has played in so I'm not sure that his return to the team would be such a good thing. To be fair to Valery though, our results when Cedric hasn't played have generally been terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Danny Rose joining Newcastle on loan according to twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 29 January, 2020 Share Posted 29 January, 2020 Spurs are bleeding full-backs at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Apparently we are cutting Danso's loan short, according to Twitter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Apparently we are cutting Danso's loan short, according to Twitter.. Not one for the future then/saving the pennies? To be fair, he is shyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Not one for the future then/saving the pennies? To be fair, he is shyte Seems a waste of a loan slot & wages when we only play him rarely, and out of position. Love to think it would mean we can bring someone else in, but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Apparently we are cutting Danso's loan short, according to Twitter..If true (very unlikely, it's Twitter) he won't be missed too much. Has the physical attributes to be a very good player but no good for us right now. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Not one for the future then/saving the pennies? To be fair, he is shyte He will be League One'ing it within 3 seasons. Utter tripe, despite his unfamiliarity with the positions he's had to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Sheff U close to signing Sander Berge for £28m They've not had to sell anyone either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 seems we are covered enough so makes sense. RB - KWP/JV CB - JB/JS/MY/JV LB - RB/JV(or KWP) Seems ok for the remaining 14 games no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 seems we are covered enough so makes sense. RB - KWP/JV CB - JB/JS/MY/JV LB - RB/JV(or KWP) Seems ok for the remaining 14 games no? Vestergaard at right back? Is this for real? It will be Ward-Prowse before vest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Sheff U close to signing Sander Berge for £28m They've not had to sell anyone either Another club we cannot compete with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Vestergaard at right back? Is this for real? It will be Ward-Prowse before vest I think he meant Shane Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2020 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Another club we cannot compete with. Their squad is likely on tiny wages relative to the tv money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Jan Valery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Jan Valery Fair one :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Sheff U close to signing Sander Berge for £28m They've not had to sell anyone either They have a very cheaply assembled squad from the championship on championship wages, and now pretty much have guaranteed two years worth of PL TV money, so they will have plenty of room in the budget for signings. We don't because we have a squad on PL wages. Once/IF they stay in the PL for like 4-5 years then they will likely be the same as they will have new contracts and new players demanding £70k plus a week because of the PL money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 They have a very cheaply assembled squad from the championship on championship wages, and now pretty much have guaranteed two years worth of PL TV money, so they will have plenty of room in the budget for signings. We don't because we have a squad on PL wages. Once/IF they stay in the PL for like 4-5 years then they will likely be the same as they will have new contracts and new players demanding £70k plus a week because of the PL money. No different to when we came up. The first two years we spent big on Gaston, Jay Rod, Wanyama, Lovren, Osvaldo and half a dosen more in the £2-5m category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 No different to when we came up. The first two years we spent big on Gaston, Jay Rod, Wanyama, Lovren, Osvaldo and half a dosen more in the £2-5m category. Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if their wage budget was less than half ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Sheff U close to signing Sander Berge for £28m They've not had to sell anyone either Another club we cannot compete with. They have more disposable income from TV money. Their wage budget is tiny compared to ours which allows them to spend TV money that Saints have tied up with wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Vestergaard at right back? Is this for real? It will be Ward-Prowse before vest Jan Valery It's YAN Valery, so please use the initials YV for Valery, then we don't get confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worm Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 "Tottenham are hoping to pull off an audacious late move for Southampton captain Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Adam Blackmore @AdamBlackmore · 11m #SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him. On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2020 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Adam Blackmore @AdamBlackmore · 11m #SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him. On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window Who needs extra fullbacks anyway?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Adam Blackmore @AdamBlackmore · 11m #SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him. On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window No strengthening done in the window again, arguably weaker. Ho hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Bowen off to Palace for £16m, bit disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 January, 2020 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Bowen off to Palace for £16m, bit disappointing. Hell of a deal for Hull. He’s out of contract this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Last one we brought in like that was Gunn. I like him but he's not exactly shown his worth, and I can't imagine it will encourage our already-thrifty owner to spend on a highly rated, but not completed needed, player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 That's a bargain, great signing for them. Shows how inflexible we are wage wise. Imagine we'd need to ship out a fair few before a signing like that. Not necessarily what we need most but when a really decent player is available like that it's a shame not to go for it. Guess it depends if we think Boufal is staying long term and can work out. Would love to think so but just never seems like it. Similar money to Adams and similar record in the Championship. May be a good deal, but no guarantee he'll step up to Premier League standard. CP supporters may be slagging him off in a few months time just like some on here are slagging off Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 No different to when we came up. The first two years we spent big on Gaston, Jay Rod, Wanyama, Lovren, Osvaldo and half a dosen more in the £2-5m category. How do you explain the fact that our nerest clubs in the net spend table, Burnley and Crystal Palace have spent over £50m more than they’ve made from transfers in the same period we’ve made a profit? They’ve both been in the premier league that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Hell of a deal for Hull. He’s out of contract this summer. It does but Hull have option for another year so wouldn’t be free in summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 seems we are covered enough so makes sense. RB - KWP/JV CB - JB/JS/MY/JV LB - RB/JV(or KWP) Seems ok for the remaining 14 games no? Still in the FA Cup and still have a chance of Europe....Think it will be luck more than ambition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 No strengthening done in the window again, arguably weaker. Ho hum. no arguably about it, we are ! Brilliant Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 wondering if Hojberg to Spurs in the summer (Sky) is why they let Walker Peters come to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Adam Blackmore @AdamBlackmore · 11m #SaintsFC Manager Ralph Hasenhüttl confirms that Kyle Walker-Peters will NOT be in the squad at Anfield. Too early for him. On Cedric leaving, Hasenhuettl says he’s happy to let him go in the circumstances RH not expecting to bring anyone else in this window Might as well close this thread,save a day of waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 Sooner Gao f***s off the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 30 January, 2020 Share Posted 30 January, 2020 How do you explain the fact that our nerest clubs in the net spend table, Burnley and Crystal Palace have spent over £50m more than they’ve made from transfers in the same period we’ve made a profit? They’ve both been in the premier league that timeLess high profile big money flops than us, still here on massive wages. Players like lemina, Forster, Elyounoussi, hoedt are on higher wages likely than most people in Burnleys team and we can barely give them away. When people discuss netspend they rarely consider the wage bill which is the actual killer. consider we pay the 4 previously mentioned about 14m a year between them that's where our money goes. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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