Lighthouse Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 I'd take a point but this one is winnable and we haven't done them at St Mary's since Beattie scored the winner in 2003. Not sure about 4-2-2-2, I think we'll get overrun. I'd bring in Bertrand and Armstrong for Adams and Vest and try a 4-2-3-1.
Useful Idiot Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 Considering Ings likes to drop deep to link play our 4-2-2-2 is very close to a 4-2-3-1. My only concern is that our defence looks a bit wobbly when put under pressure and really struggles against pace, especially in a 4.
Heisenberg Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 Will be a bounce back game for Pogba no doubt. Think they will have too much for our fragile defence. 0-2
doddisalegend Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 4-2-2-2 was causing us all sorts of problems today Brighton where doing us down both flanks rather go back to some variation of 3-5-2 against Utd like we did against Liverpool which has been our best performance this season so far.
Dazza82 Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 I'd go with this, getting Romeu and Hojbjerg to sit and protect our back four! Leaving our front 4 to interchange and cause havoc for Uniteds defence. I think getting at Shaw is our best bet Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
nta786 Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 343 for me Gunn Valery Yoshida Bednarek Danso Bertrand PEH Romeu Djenepo Adams Redmond Boufal/Ings/Armstrong can be the attacking subs. I see little need for Vestegaard as there are no target men and Utd attack are fairly fast, as were Pool’s last week so let’s have our slightly faster CB’s on. Usually, well 15 or more years ago we’d have said these are a Utd banker, but think we are more than in it should things go our way just like it did today.
Vancouver Saint Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 Dunno about this. Think we'll be on the wrong side of a backlash reaction to todays result from them. If we can score first though who knows - De Gea looking distinctly dodgy these days. Would take a point.
John Boy Saint Posted 24 August, 2019 Posted 24 August, 2019 I'd take a point but this one is winnable and we haven't done them at St Mary's since Beattie scored the winner in 2003. Not sure about 4-2-2-2, I think we'll get overrun. I'd bring in Bertrand and Armstrong for Adams and Vest and try a 4-2-3-1. And that was the last day of August too!
TWar Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 We need a striker, but Djenepo has looked insane in that left wing back position in the two times he's played it. I think the best lineup is: Gunn Vestergaard Danso Bednarek Valery JWP Hoj Djenepo Boufal Adams Redmond I think JWP over Romeu for now as 3atb is already very defensive and having Romeu in the middle is hamstringing our offensive capabilities with his poor negative passing. If we get a goal then we swap JWP to Rom, and Djenepo to Bertrand and defend our lead and hit them on the break.
Batman Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 Gunn Bed Danso Vest Valery Bertrand Hoj Rom Redmond Ings Djenepo McCarthy, Yoshida, Cedric, JwP, Boufal, Adams, Armstrong
Faz Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 Gunn Bed Danso Vest Valery Bertrand Hoj Rom Redmond Ings Djenepo McCarthy, Yoshida, Cedric, JwP, Boufal, Adams, Armstrong I don’t think he’ll leave out JWP.
alehouseboys Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 We need a striker, but Djenepo has looked insane in that left wing back position in the two times he's played it We had a spell of playing Bertrand left side of a 3 with Targett in front of him that worked well under Koeman, interesting to see how it would work with Bertrand/Djenepo.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 As good as Djenepo has looked, he’s also picked up a yellow card within 10 minutes of coming on in both of his appearances. Think it’d be a big risk playing him at LWB from the start.
miserableoldgit Posted 25 August, 2019 Posted 25 August, 2019 As good as Djenepo has looked' date=' he’s also picked up a yellow card within 10 minutes of coming on in both of his appearances. Think it’d be a big risk playing him at LWB from the start.[/quote']But he reminds me so much of Mane....I am willing to forgive... Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 26 August, 2019 Posted 26 August, 2019 The United defence looked really shaky up against pace so I would start either Boufal or Djenepo. Would take a point. Fancy 2-2.
benjii Posted 26 August, 2019 Posted 26 August, 2019 As good as Djenepo has looked' date=' he’s also picked up a yellow card within 10 minutes of coming on in both of his appearances. Think it’d be a big risk playing him at LWB from the start.[/quote'] This is a good point. He's not a starting wing back. If he's going to start he needs to be further forward. Hopefully Bertrand is available.
Jack Posted 26 August, 2019 Posted 26 August, 2019 Play fairly well, deserve something but ultimately lose 3-2 seems to be a recurring theme against this lot. I miss the days of really fancying us against the better teams but that optimism was always built on a decent defence which we no longer have
WALK DMC Posted 26 August, 2019 Posted 26 August, 2019 If we win, we'll go 4th, win 2-0 we'll go 3rd ..... Admittedly, it would only be for a few hours before the other games complete and we'd still have to win, but it would be nice to see our name next to Liverpool and Man City just for a temporary period.
Saintandy666 Posted 26 August, 2019 Posted 26 August, 2019 I just can't quite work out where Man U are as a team. They lost a bit of the early Solskjaer swagger late last season, and it's too early to know this season whether it is back or not. I guess a point would be a good result...
VectisSaint Posted 26 August, 2019 Posted 26 August, 2019 I just can't quite work out where Man U are as a team. They lost a bit of the early Solskjaer swagger late last season, and it's too early to know this season whether it is back or not. I guess a point would be a good result... It's not back, they look very ordinary, very poor at the back, hit and miss up front. The team is made up of very average (for Man U) players with a small sprinkling of stars, Pogba is blowing hot and cold. Defence slow and leaky. Outside of Liverpool and Citeh, all the others are there for the taking at the moment.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 26 August, 2019 Posted 26 August, 2019 If Saints can perform at the top of their game, to man, then we’ve got a great chance of three points. Otherwise can see a 1-3 result. Our defence will be key to getting something from the game...no errors essential.
alehouseboys Posted 27 August, 2019 Posted 27 August, 2019 Their pace up top will be a challenge. But they're beatable and we're overdue a victory over them down here, particularly after fluffing our lines in December last year.
Doctoroncall Posted 27 August, 2019 Posted 27 August, 2019 It's not back, they look very ordinary, very poor at the back, hit and miss up front. The team is made up of very average (for Man U) players with a small sprinkling of stars, Pogba is blowing hot and cold. Defence slow and leaky. Outside of Liverpool and Citeh, all the others are there for the taking at the moment. Agree. If Martial is out, that is a benefit as he’s one that has performed well. They are not the force they once were and our guys should want the chance to beat United.
saints-cris Posted 27 August, 2019 Posted 27 August, 2019 Utd are certainly beatable; they have a very ropey defence, but a very pacey attack. Any decent winger has a chance of making Ashley Young look silly, which we certainly have options with. Could be a very entertaining game. Gunn Bednarak, Danso, Vestergaard Valery, JWP, Hoj, Bertrand Redmond, Ings, Djenepo
Charlie Wayman Posted 27 August, 2019 Posted 27 August, 2019 I'd go with this, getting Romeu and Hojbjerg to sit and protect our back four! Leaving our front 4 to interchange and cause havoc for Uniteds defence. I think getting at Shaw is our best bet Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk That works very well for me but it won't be how Ralph sees it sadly. He daren't leave out our local poster boy and of course he brought in Adams to the club. Boufal won't get a start under Hasenhütl.
skintsaint Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Any chances we have will need to be put away against this lot. Can't afford to squander too many chances. Utd are there for the taking and Palace showed how to play against them which suits us, sit back and hit on the break with pace. I would have the front four as above.
doddisalegend Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Any chances we have will need to be put away against this lot. Can't afford to squander too many chances. Utd are there for the taking and Palace showed how to play against them which suits us, sit back and hit on the break with pace. I would have the front four as above. Doubt we will see Redmond after he limped off last night.
benjii Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Gunn Valery Bednarek Yoshida Danso Cedric Hojbjerg Romeu JWP Djenepo Adam’s Bench: McCarthy Vestergaard Vokins? Armstrong Boufal Ings Long Assuming Bertrand and Redmond can’t play. And Lemina.
Useful Idiot Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Gunn Valery Bednarek Yoshida Danso Cedric Hojbjerg Romeu JWP Djenepo Adam’s Bench: McCarthy Vestergaard Vokins? Armstrong Boufal Ings Long Assuming Bertrand and Redmond can’t play. And Lemina. Shouldn't that be Ing's and Vokin's?
benjii Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Shouldn't that be Ing's and Vokin's? No, of course not. #education
TWar Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 No, of course not. #education He's making fun of the fact you called Adams "Adam's"
benjii Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 He's making fun of the fact you called Adams "Adam's" Yeah, Che Adam’s. Nothing to see hear.
saints-til-i-die Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Ralph said he’s not sure yet of how he wants to play against Man U. Formation etc. It’s Weds.
fanimal Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 I would go 442 with Valery, Danso Bednarek, Bertrand; JWP Romeu, PEH, Armstrong; Ings and Adams. Djenepo and Boufal second half.
saints-til-i-die Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Yeah, Che Adam’s. Nothing to see hear. Brilliant! ‘Hear’ with Adam’s. Very funny.
DT Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 This is a good point. He's not a starting wing back. If he's going to start he needs to be further forward. Hopefully Bertrand is available. Is he not a CB? Not sure why he’s played out of position so far Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
benjii Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Is he not a CB? Not sure why he’s played out of position so far Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Talking about Djenepo, boss, isn't it!
Charlie Wayman Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Yeah, Che Adam’s. Nothing to see hear. Nothing to see here!
Charlie Wayman Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Before anybody asks I am highlighting the need for an exclamation mark, I realise it was joke.
Convict Colony Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 If we played 4-2-2-2 for the last 2 games and kept a clean sheets and won why would Ralph switch back to a 5 ? The LB is obviously the big unknown so would go for something like: Gunn Valery Bendarek Danso Bertrand Hoj Romeu Boufal Redmond (or JWP if injured) Djnepo Adams
TWar Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Ralph said he’s not sure yet of how he wants to play against Man U. Formation etc. It’s Weds.Could be due to unknown injuries, probably if bertrand is fit use a 4222 and if he isnt go 3421 with Djenepo at wing back. Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk
John Boy Saint Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 Ralph said he’s not sure yet of how he wants to play against Man U. Formation etc. It’s Weds. Well he sure ain't going to tell a hack asking him the question what his strategy is for playing Man United, got to keep some secrets in these cameras/devices up every orifice world we live in. "Well I plan to play 4-5-1 with Yoshida protecting the back line, and I will be asking the groundsman to not make his planned last cut of the grass and definitely not to water it". Be like Christmas - "you see that present under the tree in the Holly paper - that's from me to you - its a Jagsaw puzzle". Or June 1944 "Field Marshall?! - Robert Smithers Daily Mail sir" "word is that you will be invading Europe on Monday from somewhere along the East coast landing in Calais Dunkirk and into Belgium is that correct?". "No Smithers - we shall be landing on the beaches of Normandy early Monday morning - weather permitting along a 50 mile front".
kjurwi Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 I'd try Gunn Valery. Bednarek. Danso. Bertrand Romeu. Höjbjerg Boufal. JWP. Djenepo Adams
benjii Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 If we played 4-2-2-2 for the last 2 games and kept a clean sheets and won why would Ralph switch back to a 5 ? The LB is obviously the big unknown so would go for something like: Gunn Valery Bendarek Danso Bertrand Hoj Romeu Boufal Redmond (or JWP if injured) Djnepo Adams Because those two matches were against: - one of the worst teams in the PL, that average about half a goal per home game and - a rotated second division team. Man U are a different proposition and have players like Martial and Rashford. Plus, it seems we don’t currently have a proper left back. However, the reality is that whatever system we play, the biggest factor will be individual performance levels and composure.
Matthew Le God Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 If we played 4-2-2-2 for the last 2 games and kept a clean sheets and won why would Ralph switch back to a 5 ? Both goals vs Brighton came when Saints were not playing 4222. It was a 3 central defender system for both goals.
trousers Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 On the assumption that Redmond is out for the foreseeable future and Bertrand is still on the naughty step.... ---------------------------------- Gunn ------------------------------------- ----------- Bednarek ----------- Danso -------------- Yoshida ------------ Valery ------------------------------------------------------------ Hojbjerg ----------------- Ward-Prowse --------------- Romeu --------------------- ---- Djnepo --------------------- Adams ---------------------- Boufal ---- Subs: McCarthy, Cedric, Vestergard, Armstrong, Long, Ings, Obefemi
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 28 August, 2019 Posted 28 August, 2019 On the assumption that Redmond is out for the foreseeable future and Bertrand is still on the naughty step.... ---------------------------------- Gunn ------------------------------------- ----------- Bednarek ----------- Danso -------------- Yoshida ------------ Valery ------------------------------------------------------------ Hojbjerg ----------------- Ward-Prowse --------------- Romeu --------------------- ---- Djnepo --------------------- Adams ---------------------- Boufal ---- Subs: McCarthy, Cedric, Vestergard, Armstrong, Long, Ings, Obefemi Playing catch up here - Bertrand on the naughty step??
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