VAR

[Benali Saint]

Will there be VAR at Fratton park next week?

[Batman]

Will there be VAR at Fratton park next week?

 

 

VAR?

Be lucky if the toilets are not port-a-loo’s

[OttawaSaint]

Will there be VAR at Fratton park next week?

 

I think they have an etch-a-sketch.

[ecuk268]

VAR?

Be lucky if the toilets are not port-a-loo’s

 

They have toilets??

[OttawaSaint]

They have toilets??

 

They do!

 

It's a common misconception because most of those mutants just go where they sit/stoop but technically the city is actually one giant toilet.

[VectisSaint]

They have toilets??

 

Just the one

[ecuk268]

They do!

 

It's a common misconception because most of those mutants just go where they sit/stoop but technically the city is actually one giant toilet.

 

I was reading a book by the musician Joe Jackson who grew up in the Pompey area. This is his description of Paulsgrove:

 

"Our neighbourhood was ugly. Paulsgrove consisted of council flats and semi-detached houses, like ours, the top half of which were covered with corrugated iron, which was in turn covered with peeling paint and dents made by bottles, stones and cricket balls. Some of our neighbours were kindly, but many of them were sinister, sub-human creatures. Their homes had broken windows, permanently patched with bits of wood, and kids sprawled outside them in a miasma of dirt and rubbish, dismembering toy soldiers or rusty bikes. Mothers screamed at them through clouds of fag smoke. Fathers were at work on in the pub. Some of the kids were truly wretched, snotty-nosed guttersnipes right out of Oliver Twist. Once, on my way home from school, I passed a house where a young boy was calmly taking a **** on the front step. He returned my look of astonishment with a rude gesture".

[aintforever]

They have toilets??

 

The last time I went to Fratton Park the toilet roof was knackered and I had to take a sh!t in the rain. I have been to all sorts of countries around the world but Fratton is still the only place I’ve had to put up with being rained on whilst curling one out.

[OttawaSaint]

The last time I went to Fratton Park the toilet roof was knackered and I had to take a sh!t in the rain. I have been to all sorts of countries around the world but Fratton is still the only place I’ve had to put up with being rained on whilst curling one out.

 

Very brave, I'm picturing that infamous scene from trainspotting, only worse!

[Dark Munster]

They have toilets??

Remember when they were planning to build a huge one?

 

[Batman]

Kevin friend put in a performance where I am glad VAR will be back in use at the weekend

[qwertyell]

Kevin friend put in a performance where I am glad VAR will be back in use at the weekend

They wouldn't have overruled him anyway, so what's the point (other than to draw lines over a still image to "prove" someone offside by a nose hair)?

 

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[Dark Munster]

But VAR is for super-pedants. It’s the sort of system that’s designed to be used by traffic wardens. Your argument is that anybody doing 71 mph on a motorway should be fined.

 

It takes all the joy out of life.

I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

[Batman]

Var has been brilliant for us

[davefoggy]

The last time I went to Fratton Park the toilet roof was knackered and I had to take a sh!t in the rain. I have been to all sorts of countries around the world but Fratton is still the only place I’ve had to put up with being rained on whilst curling one out.

 

This is my most favourite post on here of all time. Made me laugh a lot. Cheers

[Saint_clark]

I understand people who are of the opinion VAR takes some of the magic out of the game, but really not sure why people are saying Wolves were unlucky today. Under the laws the the game those two goals shouldn't have stood.

[Saint_Tony]

VAR is my current player of the season.

Certainly been better than Gunn at keeping goals out

 

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[Dark Munster]

Line up against Leicester.

 

VAR

Valery

Maya

Vestergaard

Bednarek

Bertrand

Romeu

Hojbjerg

Djenepo

Redmond

Ings

[Saint_clark]

Not sure why anyone was moaning about VAR for the first one anyway as it was the lino that gave it as a freekick. Really in that situation VAR shouldn't have had anything to do with it as the game had stopped already, anything that happened afterwards would be considered out of play.

[East Kent Saint]

VAR not looking so brilliant in other games yesterday , they need to review the use of VAR , too many questionable decisions which is what it was supposed to eliminate !!

[Baird of the land]

VAR not looking so brilliant in other games yesterday , they need to review the use of VAR , too many questionable decisions which is what it was supposed to eliminate !!

 

Var can’t eliminate something that’s not clear cut. That was always the lie.

[beatlesaint]

VAR not looking so brilliant in other games yesterday , they need to review the use of VAR , too many questionable decisions which is what it was supposed to eliminate !!

 

At present VAR is currently a tool to check offsides and possibly catch an elbow or high tackle that the ref doesnt see.

 

This business of not over ruling the ref makes it a complete farce, what was it Shearer said last night ? Over 90 matches so far this season and not one single penalty decision overturned and not once has the ref trotted across to the screen to check his decision. And lets face it some of them have been blatant errors, the Watford one yesterday being a case in point.

 

So if you arent going to use it to correct the ref then it might as well just be renamed "offside checker"

[Lighthouse]

VAR at the moment is like buying a car, driving it into a wall and then complaining that it’s the worst car you’ve ever owned because the steering is bent and the engine won’t turn over.

 

I was astonished when that David Silva penalty wasn’t given at Bournemouth. How anyone can watch a replay of that six times and not realise it’s the most blatant stonewaller ever I’ve no idea.

[Baird of the land]

Var terminals were a waste of space in the first place. In rugby officials are a team and guy in the middle isn’t asked to go stare at a tiny screen when the var team have reviewed it.

[East Kent Saint]

But the Spurs match was v poor , it looked an obvious penalty to Watford Vertonghan slid in and tripped the attacker twice but VAR did not give it ! plus the Ali no goal screen !!!

[Nordic Saint]

VAR is my current player of the season.

 

Without it, we'd have lost 3-1 yesterday. However, if it were used even more effectively to overturn penalty decisions, we might even have won 1-0. How much we benefit from it already shows the extent to which referees gave dubious decisions against less fashionable clubs like ours and how much results were affected by those unfair decisions. Manchester United, on the other hand, are going to suffer very badly from the fairness of it all.

 

I wonder what might have been in our history in both league and cup if there had been VAR in the past, especially in our best seasons. We might well have picked up a couple of trophies in the 80s. There would certainly have been more trophies won by less fashionable clubs like ours.

[Fan The Flames]

But the Spurs match was v poor , it looked an obvious penalty to Watford Vertonghan slid in and tripped the attacker twice but VAR did not give it ! plus the Ali no goal screen !!!

 

Surely the Spurs one was a simple error by the controller, you talk as though you've never pressed the wrong button and sent a porn link to one of your clients, ffs.

[East Kent Saint]

The non awarding of the penalty is what they need to sort out , the typo just added to their embarrassment !!!

[Lighthouse]

Why even use VAR if you’re going to ignore what’s right in front of you on the screen? Funny seeing angry Scousers but seriously...

[OttawaSaint]

VAR check on a foul in the build up to Man Utd goal vs Liverpool. Goal given.

 

Looked like a foul that Origi made a meal of. Definitely looks like VAR are very hesitant to overrule a referee.

[Lighthouse]

Okay, now it’s really funny.

[OttawaSaint]

Okay, now it’s really funny.

 

Clear handball though.

[Whitey Grandad]

Clear handball though.

 

Yes, even under the old interpretations of it.

[whelk]

To not have given or overturned any penalty decision so far is an absolute joke. Just use for offside if never got the bottle to call it and stop slowing the game up.

[Baird of the land]

Thought var got it right in Liverpool game. Ref made reasonable judgment calls.

Pantomime Contact that ref clearly saw but not enough to overrule, no more than mane’s in the other direction vs Leicester the other week.

[Saint_clark]

Var terminals were a waste of space in the first place. In rugby officials are a team and guy in the middle isn’t asked to go stare at a tiny screen when the var team have reviewed it.

 

I don't understand why they can't have the fourth official do the pitch side reviews, as they are always fully qualified referees anyway.

[Saint_Tony]

Should VAR be overruling the ref's decision on a challenge in the middle of the pitch? Klopp is raging, but how far back should it go in the build up? It was the same when Salah was offside against us last season for the equaliser.

It's got the majority of the decisions right, but the FA haven't worked out yet how to use it properly. There's been several occasions where penalties should have been awarded.

Take it away and it'll be back to people moaning. Without it we'd be bottom of the league so I'm not complaining at the moment but they still need to do some serious work on it

 

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[Batman]

I don't understand why they can't have the fourth official do the pitch side reviews, as they are always fully qualified referees anyway.

 

Because they have them in stockley park or where ever it is

[Saint_clark]

Because they have them in stockley park or where ever it is

 

...the fourth official is still beside the pitch, and they have screens at pitchside that are just never used.

[Batman]

...the fourth official is still beside the pitch, and they have screens at pitchside that are just never used.

 

What difference does it make if it is the 4th official or someone else?

[Killers Knee]

VAR is doing so well for Saints that I expect to see it in a Liverpool kit next season.

[Saint Garrett]

Not sure I get this "we've been lucky because of VAR".

 

All the goals that have been ruled out against us, should have been clean cut decisions, so if anything it just shows the refs aren't doing their jobs properly in our games.

 

The handball / offsides are black and white, VAR is just correcting the poor refereeing. The decisions that have some kind of subjectivity to, are the ones that are an absolute mess at the moment. The ref is not there to re-referee the game, but they are allowed to overturn decisions if the errors are clear and obvious. Problem is no-one know what's clear and obvious! I have no problem with using VAR for offsides / handballs (it's probably more the rule that needs looking at?). Questions have to be asked about the pens / tackles though.

[Micky]

I don't understand why they can't have the fourth official do the pitch side reviews, as they are always fully qualified referees anyway.

 

Because they have them in stockley park or where ever it is

 

...the fourth official is still beside the pitch, and they have screens at pitchside that are just never used.

 

What difference does it make if it is the 4th official or someone else?

 

The whole point and purpose of a pitch-side monitor is for the on-field official to be able to review his original decision. Getting 'somebody else' to do it, no matter how well qualified, is simply yet another extension of VAR. Either get the on-field official to use them or get rid of them altogether and just take the VAR advise.

[Whitey Grandad]

Not sure I get this "we've been lucky because of VAR".

 

All the goals that have been ruled out against us, should have been clean cut decisions, so if anything it just shows the refs aren't doing their jobs properly in our games.

 

The handball / offsides are black and white, VAR is just correcting the poor refereeing. The decisions that have some kind of subjectivity to, are the ones that are an absolute mess at the moment. The ref is not there to re-referee the game, but they are allowed to overturn decisions if the errors are clear and obvious. Problem is no-one know what's clear and obvious! I have no problem with using VAR for offsides / handballs (it's probably more the rule that needs looking at?). Questions have to be asked about the pens / tackles though.

The assistants have been instructed not to flag for offsides if the decision is marginal but to let the game continue and see what the outcome is. This is understandable but I don’t think it helps the flow of the game.

[The9]

We're up 8-1 on formal VAR reviews so far - not having the Wolves penalty overturned was the first one of those we haven't had in our favour.

 

It's still awful, useless and unnecessary however they implement it. They're implementing it very badly though.

[The9]

The assistants have been instructed not to flag for offsides if the decision is marginal but to let the game continue and see what the outcome is. This is understandable but I don’t think it helps the flow of the game.

 

It's pretty obvious from the Burnley and Wolves flags that were completely ignored that the ref is also choosing not to follow the assistant's lead, but to play on after obvious fouls just in case. There has even been a goal allowed after the whistle was blown this season which should be an absolute no-no, whether the defence can influence the attack or not.

[Whitey Grandad]

It's pretty obvious from the Burnley and Wolves flags that were completely ignored that the ref is also choosing not to follow the assistant's lead, but to play on after obvious fouls just in case. There has even been a goal allowed after the whistle was blown this season which should be an absolute no-no, whether the defence can influence the attack or not.

Agreed, and your point about the whistle is absolute. Once blown the game stops.

[Dark Munster]

We're up 8-1 on formal VAR reviews so far - not having the Wolves penalty overturned was the first one of those we haven't had in our favour.

 

It's still awful, useless and unnecessary however they implement it. They're implementing it very badly though.

Wow, talking about biting the hand that feeds you!

[Batman]

We're up 8-1 on formal VAR reviews so far - not having the Wolves penalty overturned was the first one of those we haven't had in our favour.

 

It's still awful, useless and unnecessary however they implement it. They're implementing it very badly though.

 

It really isn’t

[whelk]

It really isn’t

 

Still carrying your VAR hard on?