The United Kingdom and the Death of Boris Johnson as we know it.

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

The majority of child abusers in the country are white. Of course, it is a significantly a white country.

Did those from certain communities get away with it, despite being common knowledge amongst local authorities, because of fear of political correctness?

Yes, and it has been proven. 

I doubt they would have got away with it, if people like you didnt demand others 'shut up for the sake of diversity'

Interesting, you would prefer a 2-tier system, instead of everyone being treated the same - how odd

People like me don’t say shut up for the sake of diversity. They say treat everybody the same no matter what race or religion. A rapist is a rapist no matter what colour or religion and should be prosecuted and treated as such. People like you and the Home Secretary however try and pretend that somehow those in the ethnic minorities are worse which is why you never post about white rapists or child abusers (in fact you even supported one even when he was in ritually found guilty) and actively seek out those of an ethnic background to post about. How embarrassing for you when some recently were found to be innocent! You, Braverman and people like you are deliberately stoking up hatred against minority groups. She was told in her interview that white gangs are more prevalent that Asian gangs but she ignored that to continue to talk about Asian gangs. By the way, they didn’t get away with it, they got prosecuted. You yourself have just done the same thing trying to pretend that even though the figures show that this isn’t a particular problem with Pakistani men, somehow it is because this is a predominately white country so it doesn’t matter if their are more white rapists.

Sexual assaults are carried out in the main by males. Males of all shapes, sizes, races, creeds. This is happening in every country on the planet. When you post, as you do frequently, about one small element of society as if it is just them responsible, it is driven by your hatred and mistrust of foreigners. Bizarrely we have a Home Secretary of an ethic minority background who behaves in exactly the same way. 

[Weston Super Saint]

People like you refer to brown people as immigrants.

'nuff said.

[Turkish]

24 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

People like me don’t say shut up for the sake of diversity. They say treat everybody the same no matter what race or religion. A rapist is a rapist no matter what colour or religion and should be prosecuted and treated as such. People like you and the Home Secretary however try and pretend that somehow those in the ethnic minorities are worse which is why you never post about white rapists or child abusers (in fact you even supported one even when he was in ritually found guilty) and actively seek out those of an ethnic background to post about. How embarrassing for you when some recently were found to be innocent! You, Braverman and people like you are deliberately stoking up hatred against minority groups. She was told in her interview that white gangs are more prevalent that Asian gangs but she ignored that to continue to talk about Asian gangs. By the way, they didn’t get away with it, they got prosecuted. You yourself have just done the same thing trying to pretend that even though the figures show that this isn’t a particular problem with Pakistani men, somehow it is because this is a predominately white country so it doesn’t matter if their are more white rapists.

Sexual assaults are carried out in the main by males. Males of all shapes, sizes, races, creeds. This is happening in every country on the planet. When you post, as you do frequently, about one small element of society as if it is just them responsible, it is driven by your hatred and mistrust of foreigners. Bizarrely we have a Home Secretary of an ethic minority background who behaves in exactly the same way. 

So Maybe it is an issue then.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

So Maybe it is an issue then.

I'm not going to be the one to try and explain to Soggy about ratios and that the percentage of Asian men committing this particular crime is higher than all the other demographics.

That would be way too much like hard work.

[Turkish]

Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

I'm not going to be the one to try and explain to Soggy about ratios and that the percentage of Asian men committing this particular crime is higher than all the other demographics.

That would be way too much like hard work.

I started to then just thought I can’t be arsed to waste time on the bellend. especially as he’s definitely absolutely most certainly got us both on ignore anyway 🤣🤣🤣

[Tamesaint]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

I started to then just thought I can’t be arsed to waste time on the bellend. especially as he’s definitely absolutely most certainly got us both on ignore anyway 🤣🤣🤣

I don't expect that he has you 2/3 on ignore. He loves your responses. Don't you realise that he is just winding up you, WSS and Batman? Sometimes he even gets a bite from Duckie.

He posts something and then sits back and watches your reaction. He loves it as every time he posts you lot fall for it.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Tamesaint said:

I don't expect that he has you 2/3 on ignore. He loves your responses. Don't you realise that he is just winding up you, WSS and Batman? Sometimes he even gets a bite from Duckie.

He posts something and then sits back and watches your reaction. He loves it as every time he posts you lot fall for it.

To be honest he couldn't wind up an old watch.

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

I don't expect that he has you 2/3 on ignore. He loves your responses. Don't you realise that he is just winding up you, WSS and Batman? Sometimes he even gets a bite from Duckie.

He posts something and then sits back and watches your reaction. He loves it as every time he posts you lot fall for it.

You might be into something if it weren’t for the fact this isn’t the only forum He spouts such shite on. 
 

and he doesn’t have us on ignore it’s his little act, he often forgets and replies to us. He’s full of it

Edited 4 April, 2023 by Turkish

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Tamesaint said:

I don't expect that he has you 2/3 on ignore. He loves your responses. Don't you realise that he is just winding up you, WSS and Batman? Sometimes he even gets a bite from Duckie.

He posts something and then sits back and watches your reaction. He loves it as every time he posts you lot fall for it.

They enjoy it.....  playground bullies are to be respected 🤓

[sadoldgit]

Any outrage about white, child rapist  Sean Hogg? 🤔 

 

As for the ignore thing. I do have several of the clowns on ignore now. Sadly though their posts still appear if someone quotes them and everything is there still if you forget to log on when you open the forum.

These people have been posting the same crap for years and it has been frustrating watching them get away with it. Fortunately some other posters are now taking the time to call them out so things have improved slightly but people who regurgitate the Government’s propaganda, who spout mindless right wing rhetoric, who support racism or xenophobia, who troll and are just looking for a wind up should not go unchallenged. I don’t find it funny when they pile on but I do find it odd that the same few people appear below my posts seconds after I send them. You would think that grown men would have better things to do with their time than to stalk a complete stranger on the internet wouldn’t you? Thanks to these people and others like them, this country is going down the pan. Time for people who genuinely care about others to make a stand against self centred bigots, whether it be at the ballot boxes or on social media. 

 

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[whelk]

8 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

People like me don’t say shut up for the sake of diversity. They say treat everybody the same no matter what race or religion. A rapist is a rapist no matter what colour or religion and should be prosecuted and treated as such. People like you and the Home Secretary however try and pretend that somehow those in the ethnic minorities are worse which is why you never post about white rapists or child abusers (in fact you even supported one even when he was in ritually found guilty) and actively seek out those of an ethnic background to post about. How embarrassing for you when some recently were found to be innocent! You, Braverman and people like you are deliberately stoking up hatred against minority groups. She was told in her interview that white gangs are more prevalent that Asian gangs but she ignored that to continue to talk about Asian gangs. By the way, they didn’t get away with it, they got prosecuted. You yourself have just done the same thing trying to pretend that even though the figures show that this isn’t a particular problem with Pakistani men, somehow it is because this is a predominately white country so it doesn’t matter if their are more white rapists.

Sexual assaults are carried out in the main by males. Males of all shapes, sizes, races, creeds. This is happening in every country on the planet. When you post, as you do frequently, about one small element of society as if it is just them responsible, it is driven by your hatred and mistrust of foreigners. Bizarrely we have a Home Secretary of an ethic minority background who behaves in exactly the same way. 

Do you acknowledge that authorities didn’t act for fear of being perceived as racists?

[whelk]

3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Any outrage about white, child rapist  Sean Hogg? 🤔 

 

As for the ignore thing. I do have several of the clowns on ignore now. Sadly though their posts still appear if someone quotes them and everything is there still if you forget to log on when you open the forum.

These people have been posting the same crap for years and it has been frustrating watching them get away with it. Fortunately some other posters are now taking the time to call them out so things have improved slightly but people who regurgitate the Government’s propaganda, who spout mindless right wing rhetoric, who support racism or xenophobia, who troll and are just looking for a wind up should not go unchallenged. I don’t find it funny when they pile on but I do find it odd that the same few people appear below my posts seconds after I send them. You would think that grown men would have better things to do with their time than to stalk a complete stranger on the internet wouldn’t you? Thanks to these people and others like them, this country is going down the pan. Time for people who genuinely care about others to make a stand against self centred bigots, whether it be at the ballot boxes or on social media. 

 

I am starting to worry about you SOG. You seem to take this place v seriously 

[The Kraken]

4 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Time for people who genuinely care about others to make a stand against self centred bigots, whether it be at the ballot boxes or on social media. 

 

Seriously fella, you really need to reign in your Narcissus complex and your desire to be perceived as some sort of online social justice warrior. At the moment you’re just making yourself look very daft.

[CB Fry]

4 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Any outrage about white, child rapist  Sean Hogg?

I imagine that he is a Christian just like Hermann Göring.

[Weston Super Saint]

21 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I imagine that he is a Christian just like Hermann Göring.

Which is why he couldn't go to prison as he couldn't be without his belt.

[Turkish]

5 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Any outrage about white, child rapist  Sean Hogg? 🤔 

 

As for the ignore thing. I do have several of the clowns on ignore now. Sadly though their posts still appear if someone quotes them and everything is there still if you forget to log on when you open the forum.

These people have been posting the same crap for years and it has been frustrating watching them get away with it. Fortunately some other posters are now taking the time to call them out so things have improved slightly but people who regurgitate the Government’s propaganda, who spout mindless right wing rhetoric, who support racism or xenophobia, who troll and are just looking for a wind up should not go unchallenged. I don’t find it funny when they pile on but I do find it odd that the same few people appear below my posts seconds after I send them. You would think that grown men would have better things to do with their time than to stalk a complete stranger on the internet wouldn’t you? Thanks to these people and others like them, this country is going down the pan. Time for people who genuinely care about others to make a stand against self centred bigots, whether it be at the ballot boxes or on social media. 

 

the only calling out going on is a lot of people telling you to stop being such a bellend. 
 

Also you can’t reply to someone you have on ignore as you can only see their posts when others quote them, which is why we know you’re full of shit 

Edited 4 April, 2023 by Turkish

[Turkish]

6 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

They enjoy it.....  playground bullies are to be respected 🤓

Hi micky

as you’re a new poster here it’d be great to get to know you better I think we might have got off on the wrong foot 

would you mind answering the following questions which is standard for a new poster on most forums 

have you ever had your identity stolen by someone with exactly the same name as you, same age and went to the same school as you and years later just happened to live in the same city thousands of miles away?

have you ever worked in a road crew gang with a guy known as big Chris?

have you ever done your weekly shop at Tesco on a Sunday morning in less than 10 minutes?

have you ever had a user name on any forum which is a shorted version of a medical professional but could also stand as an acronym for a common male name and the the Roman name for Southampton?

Did you used to stand under the east stand at the Dell?

just standard get to know you questions 

cheers pal 👍

[The Kraken]

Christ, I’d forgotten just how mental Dave is/was. What an absolute fucking weirdo.

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Christ, I’d forgotten just how mental Dave is/was. What an absolute fucking weirdo.

Some of the stories I could tell you about him, even more weird than you might think 

[The Kraken]

Just now, Turkish said:

Some of the stories I could tell you about him, even more weird than you might think 

I’m struggling to think how that’s even possible, but I don’t doubt it in the slightest. The guy was a complete fruitcake wanker.

[whelk]

41 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Hi micky

as you’re a new poster here it’d be great to get to know you better I think we might have got off on the wrong foot 

would you mind answering the following questions which is standard for a new poster on most forums 

have you ever had your identity stolen by someone with exactly the same name as you, same age and went to the same school as you and years later just happened to live in the same city thousands of miles away?

have you ever worked in a road crew gang with a guy known as big Chris?

have you ever done your weekly shop at Tesco on a Sunday morning in less than 10 minutes?

have you ever had a user name on any forum which is a shorted version of a medical professional but could also stand as an acronym for a common male name and the the Roman name for Southampton?

Did you used to stand under the east stand at the Dell?

just standard get to know you questions 

cheers pal 👍

 Still no idea who this is

[Turkish]

16 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Christ, I’d forgotten just how mental Dave is/was. What an absolute fucking weirdo.

Remember when he posted a picture of his passport as proof he wasn’t who people said he was in one of his thousands of logins and it was a name you could find on Google 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Edited 4 April, 2023 by Turkish

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, whelk said:

 Still no idea who this is

Probably for the best 

[The Kraken]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Remember when he posted a picture of his passport as proof he wasn’t who people said he was in one of his thousands of logins and it was a name you could find on Google 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I remember him saying he lived locally, then when trying to prove it he went to the paper shop and bought (and posted) a foreign copy of The Sun. Gotcha.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, The Kraken said:

I remember him saying he lived locally, then when trying to prove it he went to the paper shop and bought (and posted) a foreign copy of The Sun. Gotcha.

🤣🤣🤣 I forgot about that. The road crew gang was hilarious as well, big Chris working up on the Salisbury road posting pictures from the van to prove where he was. Absolutely bonkers 

[The Kraken]

27 minutes ago, Turkish said:

🤣🤣🤣 I forgot about that. The road crew gang was hilarious as well, big Chris working up on the Salisbury road posting pictures from the van to prove where he was. Absolutely bonkers 

That was a saga, it ran over days 🤣 it referenced traffic works going on in the area and all sorts of barmy creations. Halcyon days those, bettered only by the b-anted days. When a certain poster by the name of Paul Allen bullied Romsey Stu,into wearing a Ben Sherman shirt to the Derby away playoff game ( and which I was there for that game and saw the little fat Pygmy wearing it, some terrible red and blue tartan affair, bless him). 

[Turkish]

Just now, The Kraken said:

That was a saga, it ran over days 🤣 it referenced traffic works going on in the area and all sorts of barmy creations. Halcyon days those, bettered only by the b-anted days. When a certain poster by the name of Paul Allen bullied Romsey Stu,into wearing a Ben Sherman shirt to the Derby away playoff game ( and which I was there for that game and saw the little fat Pygmy wearing it, some terrible red and blue tartan affair, bless him). 

Paul Allen was a great poster 😀

ha the Ben Sherman shirt saga and Romsey Stu 🤣🤣

[badgerx16]

 

[tdmickey3]

11 hours ago, Turkish said:

Hi micky

as you’re a new poster here it’d be great to get to know you better I think we might have got off on the wrong foot 

would you mind answering the following questions which is standard for a new poster on most forums 

Q1: have you ever had your identity stolen by someone with exactly the same name as you, same age and went to the same school as you and years later just happened to live in the same city thousands of miles away?

Q2: have you ever worked in a road crew gang with a guy known as big Chris?

Q3: have you ever done your weekly shop at Tesco on a Sunday morning in less than 10 minutes?

Q3: have you ever had a user name on any forum which is a shorted version of a medical professional but could also stand as an acronym for a common male name and the the Roman name for Southampton?

Q4: Did you used to stand under the east stand at the Dell?

just standard get to know you questions 

cheers pal 👍

Bit of a waste of a post really but you seem to be in charge on here so .........

Q1: No

Q2: No

Q3: No

Q4: Yes 

HTH

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Bit of a waste of a post really but you seem to be in charge on here so .........

Q1: No

Q2: No

Q3: No

Q4: Yes 

HTH

Are you saying you are not he?

[sadoldgit]

17 hours ago, whelk said:

Do you acknowledge that authorities didn’t act for fear of being perceived as racists?

I was under the impression that the gangs had all been prosecuted?

As for anything that Braverman and Batman broadcast, things are rarely exactly as they say.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office-report-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem
 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-characteristics-of-offending/characteristics-of-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-in-the-community-literature-review-accessible-version#conclusion
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/04/suella-braverman-grooming-gangs-child-seual-abuse-home-secretary-prejudice
 

There is also a very good report from the BBC about systemic failures to tackle child grooming right across the board but I wasn’t able to cut and paste that. It is called Child Sexual Abuse: Extensive Failures In Tackling Grooming - Tom Symonds, updated 1st Feb 2022

This is the report. If you don’t want to read it all just read the conclusion.

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/cs-organised-networks/part-l-conclusions-and-recommendations/l1-conclusions.html
 

And what Braverman and Batman don’t tell you that there was pressure brought on finding more Asian rape gangs to prosecute at one point rather (clearly for political purposes) but that news isn’t as sexy as a PC cover up.

So, in a nutshell, consistent systemic failures to deal with all child sexual grooming across the country, including the lack of data capture from the alleged perpetrators and victims (so we don’t have accurate figures on the ethnicity of alleged offenders or victims) yet what we are talking about is the red meat headlines. Fortunately now Braverman has discredited herself so much as soon as she opens her mouth most of the media outside those in the Government’s pocket rush of to fact check her latest piece of b/s but it is shameful that we now live in a country where your Government from the PM right through the whole cabinet takes you for a mug.

 

One last thing on this subject today, are you managing to muster up any outrage about Operation Pavarotti (Bolton grooming gang) yet Batman and chums?

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[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I was under the impression that the gangs had all been prosecuted?

As for anything that Braverman and Batman broadcast, things are rarely exactly as they say.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office-report-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem
 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-characteristics-of-offending/characteristics-of-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-in-the-community-literature-review-accessible-version#conclusion
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/04/suella-braverman-grooming-gangs-child-seual-abuse-home-secretary-prejudice
 

There is also a very good report from the BBC about systemic failures to tackle child grooming right across the board but I wasn’t able to cut and paste that. It is called Child Sexual Abuse: Extensive Failures In Tackling Grooming - Tom Symonds, updated 1st Feb 2022

This is the report. If you don’t want to read it all just read the conclusion.

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/cs-organised-networks/part-l-conclusions-and-recommendations/l1-conclusions.html
 

And what Braverman and Batman don’t tell you that there was pressure brought on finding more Asian rape gangs to prosecute at one point rather (clearly for political purposes) but that news isn’t as sexy as a PC cover up.

So, in a nutshell, consistent systemic failures to deal with all child sexual grooming across the country, including the lack of data capture from the alleged perpetrators and victims (so we don’t have accurate figures on the ethnicity of alleged offenders or victims) yet what we are talking about is the red meat headlines. Fortunately now Braverman has discredited herself so much as soon as she opens her mouth most of the media outside those in the Government’s pocket rush of to fact check her latest piece of b/s but it is shameful that we now live in a country where your Government from the PM right through the whole cabinet takes you for a mug.

An opinion piece in the Guardian. Wow, damming stuff 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[RedArmy]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

 

And what Braverman and Batman don’t tell you that there was pressure brought on finding more Asian rape gangs to prosecute at one point rather (clearly for political purposes) but that news isn’t as sexy as a PC cover up.

 

You’re fucking mental. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I was under the impression that the gangs had all been prosecuted?

As for anything that Braverman and Batman broadcast, things are rarely exactly as they say.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office-report-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem
 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-characteristics-of-offending/characteristics-of-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-in-the-community-literature-review-accessible-version#conclusion
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/04/suella-braverman-grooming-gangs-child-seual-abuse-home-secretary-prejudice
 

There is also a very good report from the BBC about systemic failures to tackle child grooming right across the board but I wasn’t able to cut and paste that. It is called Child Sexual Abuse: Extensive Failures In Tackling Grooming - Tom Symonds, updated 1st Feb 2022

This is the report. If you don’t want to read it all just read the conclusion.

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/cs-organised-networks/part-l-conclusions-and-recommendations/l1-conclusions.html
 

And what Braverman and Batman don’t tell you that there was pressure brought on finding more Asian rape gangs to prosecute at one point rather (clearly for political purposes) but that news isn’t as sexy as a PC cover up.

So, in a nutshell, consistent systemic failures to deal with all child sexual grooming across the country, including the lack of data capture from the alleged perpetrators and victims (so we don’t have accurate figures on the ethnicity of alleged offenders or victims) yet what we are talking about is the red meat headlines. Fortunately now Braverman has discredited herself so much as soon as she opens her mouth most of the media outside those in the Government’s pocket rush of to fact check her latest piece of b/s but it is shameful that we now live in a country where your Government from the PM right through the whole cabinet takes you for a mug.

 

One last thing on this subject today, are you managing to muster up any outrage about Operation Pavarotti (Bolton grooming gang) yet Batman and chums?

Give it a fucking rest man. 

[tdmickey3]

7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Give it a fucking rest man. 

Freedom of speech mush...

[hypochondriac]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

An opinion piece in the Guardian. Wow, damming stuff 🤣🤣🤣🤣

If we found out that a disproportionate amount of grooming and rape was being committed by white Christian men on working class Muslim girls and that these girls were the ones who were specifically targeted by these men, with white Christian girls being largely left alone then I'd want something done about it. If there were multiple reports that these men passed young Muslim girls around family members and friends and that they used terms such as "Muslim whore" or variations of "brown slag" etc then I'd be horrified and want something done to address it. 

Obviously I'd also want the wider issue of sexual crime and grooming gangs to be addressed as well and I wouldn't want the police to direct all their resources solely on these Christian men but I'd absolutely want this issue looking into specifically since it seems to be a more unique situation motivated at least in part by a cultural issue and a religious issue or at least a warped interpretation of religion. It appears that we would have a problem here with some specific motivations that in some way differ from sexual crimes committed by other demographics and the sensible thing to do would be to try to investigate this properly and to be honest about the problem to try to keep more young Muslim women safe.

I can imagine what soggy would be saying if the scenario I have described actually occurred in the manner I have described it. The thing is that this is happening in the UK, it's just that the ethnicity and the skin colour of the perpetrators and the victims are the other way around. I can confidently say that I would be calling for the exact same actions regardless of who the perpetrators are. Could soggy say the same? I think we know the answer. 

Edited 5 April, 2023 by hypochondriac

[sadoldgit]

Call me old fashioned, but I expect the current Government to be mainly focussed on dealing with major issues like the cost of living crisis, the energy crisis, sorting out the problems in the NHS and other public services, getting Brexit working properly, sorting out the failing infrastructure etc. I would also expect the forthcoming election to be fought on such issues.

A short while ago a political commentator suggested that the Tories would try and refocus our attention away from these issues and instead turn their (and our) gaze towards small boats, Asian rapists and trans issues. Guess what, exactly that has happened. The phone in shows have been swamped on these subjects over the last few weeks thanks to the Government’s flurry of bills.

Apart from the clear attempt of distracting us from the God awful mess they are making of running the country, it begs two questions - this Government has been in power for 13 years, so if small boats, Asian rapists and trans people are such major issues, why has it taken them a year before the next election to realise it and why did they let things get so bad in the first place?

For my usual stalkers, these are rhetorical questions. We already know the answers but you might want to think about it a bit more before putting your cross next to a Tory on the ballot paper.

 

PS. 21 convicted in West Midlands child sex abuse case. Feeling the need to vent your anger Batman? Oh, sorry, they are not Asians. As you were.

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[hypochondriac]

I want the NHS sorting, cost of living and energy sorting and I want the government to address women's rights, small boats and Pakistani rape gangs. It might be optimistic but I'd like the government to make an attempt to tackle all of these issues and not simply ignore some of them because they might not affect me directly.

It's great if pedophiles in the west Midlands have been brought to justice. I am all in favour of police prosecuting all child abusers. Why would you not be? 

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Call me old fashioned, but I expect the current Government to be mainly focussed on dealing with major issues like the cost of living crisis, the energy crisis, sorting out the problems in the NHS and other public services, getting Brexit working properly, sorting out the failing infrastructure etc. I would also expect the forthcoming election to be fought on such issues.

A short while ago a political commentator suggested that the Tories would try and refocus our attention away from these issues and instead turn their (and our) gaze towards small boats, Asian rapists and trans issues. Guess what, exactly that has happened. The phone in shows have been swamped on these subjects over the last few weeks thanks to the Government’s flurry of bills.

Apart from the clear attempt of distracting us from the God awful mess they are making of running the country, it begs two questions - this Government has been in power for 13 years, so if small boats, Asian rapists and trans people are such major issues, why has it taken them a year before the next election to realise it and why did they let things get so bad in the first place?

For my usual stalkers, these are rhetorical questions. We already know the answers but you might want to think about it a bit more before putting your cross next to a Tory on the ballot paper.

 

PS. 21 convicted in West Midlands child sex abuse case. Feeling the need to vent your anger Batman? Oh, sorry, they are not Asians. As you were.

Give it a fucking rest man 

Edited 5 April, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter

[saint1977]

Suella has a run off to be re-nominated as an MP tonight where the Fareham and East Meon seats merge. Up against Flick Drummond who looks remarkably normal, well-informed and well-qualified. No chance then with the local frothing-at-the-mouth post UKIP Tory association members then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Drummond

Believe it or not, that type of profile used to be normal in the Tory Party

Edited 5 April, 2023 by saint1977

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, saint1977 said:

Suella has a run off to be re-nominated as an MP tonight where the Fareham and East Meon seats merge. Up against Flick Drummond who looks remarkably normal, well-informed and well-qualified. No chance then with the local frothing-at-the-mouth post UKIP Tory association members then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Drummond

Believe it or not, that type of profile used to be normal in the Tory Party

Let me guess, remainer? 

[The Kraken]

5 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Let me guess, remainer? 

Yes, she does seem quite sensible.

[Lord Duckhunter]

10 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Yes, she does seem quite sensible.

Funny isn’t it, lefties fucking hated Cameron, Osborne & austerity. Thought John Major an incompetent grey twat, and despised Ken Clarke’s NHS reforms. Brexit deranged syndrome infected their opinions so much, theyd be worshipping the Iron Lady if she was around to campaign for remain in ‘16… 

Edited 5 April, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter

[whelk]

There is some truth in what SOG says in populist distraction techniques But the constant sniping and whataboutery along with calling everyone far right racists means his posts are bound to get mocked. 
 

[hypochondriac]

Here is an excellent twitter thread describing in detail why the issue with Pakistani rape gangs is a specific problem that needs dealing with in a specific way. Well worth a read. 

 

[sadoldgit]

15 hours ago, saint1977 said:

Suella has a run off to be re-nominated as an MP tonight where the Fareham and East Meon seats merge. Up against Flick Drummond who looks remarkably normal, well-informed and well-qualified. No chance then with the local frothing-at-the-mouth post UKIP Tory association members then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flick_Drummond

Believe it or not, that type of profile used to be normal in the Tory Party

So she won. 
 

When times are tough people need to apportion blame and that is why the current crop of Tories are targeting these minority groups; refugees, Asian sex offenders, trans people and you can throw in Lefty Lawyers and some judges who have been labelled “enemies of the people”. It is food and drink to the Gammons and they are still lapping it up, fuelled by the right wing media.

Duckie would have it that the present Government are not right wing. He is wrong. You can’t get more right wing than demonising minority groups  and stirring up the masses against them. It is why Lineker tweeted what he did and he is spot on. He poked the right wing apologists with a stick and we all watched them react. The same happens here. Defend a minority group, point out that the problems are wider than that and need to be seen in a broader context rather than being sucked in by hate propaganda and they swarm after you whilst stoking each other up in a feeding frenzy.

Whilst it is depressing to see a dreadful human being such as Suella Braverman get a vote of confidence there is an upside. She will still be around to fight the next election and will hopefully remind the millions of people around the country that still have a shred of decency left what you get when you vote for this party.
 

 

[AlexLaw76]

20 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

So she won. 
 

When times are tough people need to apportion blame and that is why the current crop of Tories are targeting these minority groups; refugees, Asian sex offenders, trans people and you can throw in Lefty Lawyers and some judges who have been labelled “enemies of the people”. It is food and drink to the Gammons and they are still lapping it up, fuelled by the right wing media.

Duckie would have it that the present Government are not right wing. He is wrong. You can’t get more right wing than demonising minority groups  and stirring up the masses against them. It is why Lineker tweeted what he did and he is spot on. He poked the right wing apologists with a stick and we all watched them react. The same happens here. Defend a minority group, point out that the problems are wider than that and need to be seen in a broader context rather than being sucked in by hate propaganda and they swarm after you whilst stoking each other up in a feeding frenzy.

Whilst it is depressing to see a dreadful human being such as Suella Braverman get a vote of confidence there is an upside. She will still be around to fight the next election and will hopefully remind the millions of people around the country that still have a shred of decency left what you get when you vote for this party.
 

 

more racist jibes from our own Derek Vinyard

[Turkish]

16 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

more racist jibes from our own Derek Vinyard

He hated Pritti Patel

he hates Suella Braverman 

Can anyone spot the trend?

[rallyboy]

That Twitter thread was interesting with actual detail and facts, rather than Suella's distorted electioneering shit.

There is clearly a specific problem within the problem, perhaps complicated by the likes of Yaxley-Lennon who works to a very narrow agenda and is sharply selective about which cases he wants to highlight - we need facts rather than thinly-disguised campaigning.

For anyone to ignore sexual abuse because they were worried about being called racist is insane, but then again politics is a post-truth arena where lies go unchallenged daily, the Met looks like the biggest criminal gang in London and blatant corruption in government is now just an accepted perk. 

The Home Secretary is talking big but doing very little, mainly because she is so far out of her depth - maybe less of the campaigning and the lying, and more of the actual governing might be nice, addressing all sexual abuse, by whoever.

 

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

more racist jibes from our own Derek Vinyard

Racist jibes for calling out a xenophobe?

I am not sure which of your crowd is more stupid. You I guess because you have been at it longer.

Just think about what you are saying for one minute. You spend your posting life having a pop at foreigners and minority groups and you are trying to say that I share the same views as you have when I call you out for them. If you can’t work out what is wrong with this picture you are beyond help. It proves my point so thank you. The Tories are guaranteed votes from certain sections of our society because they are pig ignorant.

Footnote:

Thank you RB for restoring my faith in humanity and responding with intelligence. There are clearly huge issues with policing and the Criminal Justice System in general, but when putting the spotlight on sex crimes in particular it is also clear that the issues surrounding child sexual exploitation and serious sexual assault in general are not being addressed properly and just having the focus on a specific group speaks to a political agenda rather than a will to deal with the alleged crimes without prejudice. To that end it is good to see a number of these gangs brought to justice over the last few years, no matter what race or religion (even if the West Midlands crew wasn’t labelled as “white”).

 

 

Edited 6 April, 2023 by sadoldgit
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