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buctootim

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3 minutes ago, The Left Back said:

I’m struggling to think of a candidate who (a) is not tarnished with being loyal to Boris (b) can unite the party (c) has enough personality to appeal tp the red wall and (d) has a moral compass

I reckon somebody with solid military creds might do well atm. given the current situation. Johnny Mercer, Ben Wallace and Tom Tugrnhadt all have  enter chances than three months ago. All also have the advantage of not being tainted by association despite Wallace being minister. Not saying thry would win but Rory Stewart’s run from nowhere showed you can’t predict 

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1 minute ago, buctootim said:

I reckon somebody with solid military creds might do well atm. given the current situation. Johnny Mercer, Ben Wallace and Tom Tugrnhadt all have  enter chances than three months ago. All also have the advantage of not being tainted by association despite Wallace being minister. Not saying thry would win but Rory Stewart’s run from nowhere showed you can’t predict 

I agree they come across as fairly capable.  I'd add Tobias Ellwood into that list as well.  Whoever gets the job will have a huge job on their hands and circumstances aren't helping.  A fresh face is all well and good but they'll still have to deal with the legacy of the last 12 years and that's a tough sell.

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buctootim

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8 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

I agree they come across as fairly capable.  I'd add Tobias Ellwood into that list as well.

Yes absolutely. I had him in mind in writing the post, though somehow missed him out. He is actually my preferred choice for the new leader

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14 minutes ago, buctootim said:

I reckon somebody with solid military creds might do well atm. given the current situation. Johnny Mercer, Ben Wallace and Tom Tugrnhadt all have  enter chances than three months ago. All also have the advantage of not being tainted by association despite Wallace being minister. Not saying thry would win but Rory Stewart’s run from nowhere showed you can’t predict 

Nope, nobody outside of the cabinet is likely. Will be someone who has worked in a state department. Just the way it is.

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Just now, Warriorsaint said:

Nope, nobody outside of the cabinet is likely. Will be someone who has worked in a state department. Just the way it is.

Disagree. Every election is different. Sometimes want continuity, sometimes change of policy and right now, a complete break with the recent past imo 

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2 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/08/keir-starmer-cleared-durham-police-breaking-lockdown-rules-beer?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

This cannot be right. Billy no mates on Twitter had assured Batman that Starmer was guilty.

#badweekforthegammon.

 

The fact that the main "gotcha" from the likes of the daily mail actually proved they'd done nothing wrong made it pretty clear they wouldn't get fined.

Starmer playing a blinder with the "I'd quite" speech.

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15 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

The fact that the main "gotcha" from the likes of the daily mail actually proved they'd done nothing wrong made it pretty clear they wouldn't get fined.

Starmer playing a blinder with the "I'd quite" speech.

Easy to play a blinder when the commissioner of the police force investigating you is a friend of yours and a Labour Party member. 

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4 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Easy to play a blinder when the commissioner of the police force investigating you is a friend of yours and a Labour Party member. 

It's an elected role so she is in place as a result of the will of the people of that area. The process and role was introduced by the Conservatives. It's called democracy mate.

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40 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

On QT last night Tim Stanley, a journal on the Torygraph, said all Boris did wrong was to "eat a bit of cake".

People can make light of partygate if they want, they're wrong, but it's at least open for debate.  But the Pincher and KGB shit is appalling and obviously very, very wrong.

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48 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

On QT last night Tim Stanley, a journal on the Torygraph, said all Boris did wrong was to "eat a bit of cake".

There are 2 ways that this can go now.

On the one hand as soon as he goes the blinkers are lifted from everyone's eyes. More shit comes out about him. Cummings opens up his chest of stories . These make the recent treehouse and blow job stories appear small beer. The world gets back to normal and the years of Boris seem like a bad dream.

The alternative is the "he only ate cake view". Led on by the likes of the Mail and Express he starts his "upper class buffoon" act. People forget the lies and incompetence and he is regarded as "good old Boris". 

Trump is leading the way in rewriting his term in office. Hopefully Johnson doesn't follow his example. 

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1 hour ago, RedArmy said:

Easy to play a blinder when the commissioner of the police force investigating you is a friend of yours and a Labour Party member. 

More so if you didn’t actually do anything wrong, despite all of the best efforts of the Daily Mail. So what is the score? 126-0. We know that the right wing media were trying to tell us that had he and Rayner been fined it would equal up the score (126-2). Watch as somehow they still try and make out that Starmer is just as grubby as Johnson.

Starmer made a great speech today. The next general election can’t come soon enough.

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More so if you didn’t actually do anything wrong, despite all of the best efforts of the Daily Mail. So what is the score? 126-0. We know that the right wing media were trying to tell us that had he and Rayner been fined it would equal up the score (126-2). Watch as somehow they still try and make out that Starmer is just as grubby as Johnson.

Starmer made a great speech today. The next general election can’t come soon enough.

The never disappointing Michael Fabric**t has already claimed it’s a stitch up, apparently because KS is Lawyer.  The Mail are now running this odious individuals view as headline news.

 

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23 minutes ago, moonraker said:

The never disappointing Michael Fabric**t has already claimed it’s a stitch up, apparently because KS is Lawyer.  The Mail are now running this odious individuals view as headline news.

 

Fabricant has hair that makes Boris' coiffure look like it has been styled by a Beverly Hills artiste.

Perhaps, as a lawyer, Starmer understood where the lines were and therefore stayed on the correct side.

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24 minutes ago, moonraker said:

The never disappointing Michael Fabric**t has already claimed it’s a stitch up, apparently because KS is Lawyer.  The Mail are now running this odious individuals view as headline news.

 

He's a rent-a-quote partisan piece of shit. 

Everything that Boris has done he has come out with off-the-peg defence lines: "how could he possibly have remembered about Chris Pincher, he's a busy man...it's a load of fuss about a cake....etc etc" I think he was the prick that came out and said Nurses and Teachers were all having after work beers all the time throughout the pandemic.

If it was Boris having a beer he'd be on the airwaves yabbering on about how everyone needs a beer and whats all the fuss about. Of course Starmer does it and he's right out the gate with what a disgrace it is. Utterly predictable horseshit.

Basically our Batman with a tie and stupid hair.

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It's all the made-up spin shit that needs to stop if the Conservative party is to learn from the failure of appointing a corrupt clown and his c**t circus, and to actually start governing.

Inventing a ministerial job today for the dangerously insane Peter Bone is a ridiculous way to launch a new era, it's just rewarding a Johnson nutter with a huge future payoff for spouting lies.

This suggests nothing has changed, no lessons have been learned, and the Eton gravy train is just merrily plodding on taking the piss out of us, and the system.

Will the new PM be just another toxic jockey for a lame old horse, or will there be some new blood and a fresh direction?

At the moment we've stopped a drink driver who has recorded three times over the limit, given him his keys back and asked him to drive carefully - Johnson has to go, he's not moved a fucking inch, and he won't. 

Change needs to come, for everyone.

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1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

He's a rent-a-quote partisan piece of shit. 

Everything that Boris has done he has come out with off-the-peg defence lines: "how could he possibly have remembered about Chris Pincher, he's a busy man...it's a load of fuss about a cake....etc etc" I think he was the prick that came out and said Nurses and Teachers were all having after work beers all the time throughout the pandemic.

If it was Boris having a beer he'd be on the airwaves yabbering on about how everyone needs a beer and whats all the fuss about. Of course Starmer does it and he's right out the gate with what a disgrace it is. Utterly predictable horseshit.

Basically our Batman with a tie and stupid hair.

To be fair, you don't know for sure that our Batman doesn't have a tie and stupid hair as well.

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6 hours ago, RedArmy said:

Easy to play a blinder when the commissioner of the police force investigating you is a friend of yours and a Labour Party member. 

I wonder who is the thicker of you and Batman? Dry your eyes

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1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

It's all the made-up spin shit that needs to stop if the Conservative party is to learn from the failure of appointing a corrupt clown and his c**t circus, and to actually start governing.

Inventing a ministerial job today for the dangerously insane Peter Bone is a ridiculous way to launch a new era, it's just rewarding a Johnson nutter with a huge future payoff for spouting lies.

This suggests nothing has changed, no lessons have been learned, and the Eton gravy train is just merrily plodding on taking the piss out of us, and the system.

Will the new PM be just another toxic jockey for a lame old horse, or will there be some new blood and a fresh direction?

At the moment we've stopped a drink driver who has recorded three times over the limit, given him his keys back and asked him to drive carefully - Johnson has to go, he's not moved a fucking inch, and he won't. 

Change needs to come, for everyone.

The thing that worries me most is the fact that every day he us still PM, he's free to dish out peerages to whoever he likes. He'll probably try and grant one to himself with his track record.

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45 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

The thing that worries me most is the fact that every day he us still PM, he's free to dish out peerages to whoever he likes. He'll probably try and grant one to himself with his track record.

Prime Ministers traditionally get a peerage on leaving office.

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29 minutes ago, Gurj said:

This thread is an excellent example as to why I stay well clear of political debates. Total echo chamber. 

Clearly the Conservative party found this thread this week, read it and realised that it was time to get rid of Johnson.

"Echo chamber" ? Nah. More like trendsetter.😁😁

 

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1 hour ago, Gurj said:

This thread is an excellent example as to why I stay well clear of political debates. Total echo chamber. 

Lol, yeah 84 pages echoing the same thoughts. Daily Mail are still giving the guy some loyalty so there’s a place you may want to go

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2 hours ago, Gurj said:

This thread is an excellent example as to why I stay well clear of political debates. Total echo chamber. 

It didn't used to be. If you go back to the first few pages you'll find probably an equal amount of people either supporting Johnson or opposing him.

It's just that, as time has passed and he has shown himself beyond any reasonable doubt to be a terrible cunt, completely unfit for high office, even those who used to support him won't dare to come onto this thread anymore to sing his praises, probably because they realise how stupid it would make them look.

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