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buctootim

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1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Anyway, back on topic...

I've just been to visit my mum in hospital and she asked me to pick her up today's Daily Mail. I've told her on previous occasions that I would never dirty my fingers by even touching it let alone be seen buying it, but as she's in hospital and thoroughly bored I reluctantly agreed.

Fuck me. Every other paper (except the Express, of course) ran with a headline about how bad a result last night was for Johnson, and this is their take:

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Obviously the Mail has always been Tory central but its taken on a more nasty, cultish, propaganda tone since the new editor Ted Verity took over. I used to read it a bit because its one of the relatively few free access online news sites. I've stopped since it took another lurch towards trash.     

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Weston Super Saint

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6 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Common we all know that this is pandering to the “take back control” crowd and has nothing to do with practicality. Yet another ploy along with a conveyor belt of ploys to distract the great unwashed from the Tory Party’s lack of vision and real policies to take us forward post Brexit.I wonder what the next stunt will be? Bringing back  £.S.D?

I'm not sure Soggy actually knows who votes for the Tory Party.  Weren't they all racists and gammons previously?  Now they're the 'great unwashed' - pretty sure that term is generally used to describe a demographic that is considered to be beneath one's own perceived social standing.  

I imagine that the majority of Tory voters are likely to be from 'middle England' with a selection of 'red wall' protest voters.  If Soggy has determined that they are all 'beneath' his social standing, I guess he thinks he's of the same ilk as Rees-Mogg :mcinnes:

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2 hours ago, buctootim said:

Obviously the Mail has always been Tory central but its taken on a more nasty, cultish, propaganda tone since the new editor Ted Verity took over. I used to read it a bit because its one of the relatively few free access online news sites. I've stopped since it took another lurch towards trash.     

Ted Verity is pretty much the property of Boris Johnson and Conservative CO. Boris’s other half had some pictures taken by the paper with her mates at a student ball and apparently as soon as Boris complained directly Ted folded like the rag he supposedly edits and it was taken off the front page, much to the annoyance no doubt of the pap who took them. 

As Cummings said recently, the whole WFH crap the Mail was leading was all about a pact for Verity to suck up to Boris so as to get commuters through the main London terminuses again so the Metro’s advertising revenues picked up and didn’t bankrupt the whole group. Today’s front page is just another installment of the debt Verity and the Mail owe. A better leader and any kind of even semi-quality journalist wouldn’t be held to ransom like that but clearly the likes of Geordie Grieg had some ethics and saw the way it was going.

Plenty of installments left Ted - Boris owns you. You’ve backed a horse losing heavily and one that can’t be unseated for another year, unless the standards committee finds something as a file in a cake for you to escape being Boris’s tea  intern.

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6 hours ago, Turkish said:

Ask any bloke how long their cock is, answer is always in inches.

To use the old joke from The Young Ones (not the Cliff Richard version): "If I told you darlin you'd think that I was talking about centimetres"

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5 hours ago, Warriorsaint said:

I want Cubits, can I have Cubits? I have a pyramid to build. I choose to use Cubits. Don’t oppress me. Just like Nolan said!

Really? What's 10% (or 1/10) of 13 stone 11 pounds? Or what's 10% of 83 kilos?

Which is easier?

 

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6 hours ago, Warriorsaint said:

I want Cubits, can I have Cubits? I have a pyramid to build. I choose to use Cubits. Don’t oppress me. Just like Nolan said!

The cubit is a non-standard measurement; as it depends on the length of the lower arm and middle finger, your cubit is almost certainly different to mine.

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13 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The cubit is a non-standard measurement; as it depends on the length of the lower arm and middle finger, your cubit is almost certainly different to mine.

I mean they had standard cubit rods while building so the building didn’t go all wonky. It just differed from building to building I guess. 
 

The important question is really how easy is it to divide the cubit by fractions.

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14 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

That's assuming that he won 100% of the payroll vote. There were numerous claims on Twitter last night that there will be several resignations this morning, so let's wait and see.

Well unless I've missed it, the predicted resignations haven't materialised, which means either nobody on the govt payroll voted against Johnson (and thus 75% of the backbenchers did), or some of them did but they are too cowardly to admit it and resign as they would be expected to. 

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Well unless I've missed it, the predicted resignations haven't materialised, which means either nobody on the govt payroll voted against Johnson (and thus 75% of the backbenchers did), or some of them did but they are too cowardly to admit it and resign as they would be expected to. 

Boris sets the tone for the entire Government benches. If lying to Parliament and breaking the Law aren't resigning offences, why should voting in a secret ballot be ?

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17 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

How many times have you asked that question, so as to be able to develop that observation ?

I think he misheard. They weren’t asking how big was his cock, they were calling him a big cock 😉

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4 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

People on Universal Credit to be allowed to use their benefits money to fund mortgages to buy their social housing.

What help is available to aspirational potential first time buyers earning just over the UC threshold ?

I imagine they can use their earnings to fund a mortgage can't they?

The UC thing is a dead herring.  No-one on UC is going to have enough money for the deposit for a mortgage and I can't imagine mortgage lenders (unless they are Government funded) will consider someone on UC as an acceptable financial risk!

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Zero thought and planning has gone into this, it's just an old failed idea rehashed and dressed up in a cheap headline to try and distract from the chaos.

The good news is that a few more people have this week wised up and see this dead cat for what it is.

 

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9 hours ago, whelk said:

Fiscal whizz kids

 

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It's only money :

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61749657

"..…...The report by the Public Accounts Committee - which scrutinises government spending - said that between 2020-21, the Department of Health spent £12bn on PPE, but £8.7bn had to be written off. ......."

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34 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

It's only money :

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61749657

"..…...The report by the Public Accounts Committee - which scrutinises government spending - said that between 2020-21, the Department of Health spent £12bn on PPE, but £8.7bn had to be written off. ......."

Raise £12bn from NI hike and lose £11bn from being too stupid in understanding insurance. 
At least the old Tories could be respected as shrewd, these clowns spend, raise taxes and sort out fuck all with many services at an all time low.

Policy seems to be made up on the hoof for headlines to distract or protect Johnson

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45 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Rwanda is good enough for this lot...

https://www.unhcr.org/rw/17295-first-evacuation-flight-of-2022-from-libya-to-rwanda-brings-over-100-asylum-seekers-to-safety.html

Strangely the UNHCR are one of the organisations fighting the UK policy and claiming it breaks international law.

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What’s the cost of living like in Rwanda? Could get nice house with a pool for cost of a flat here I imagine. Assume the weather is decent. Any cheap Ryan Air flights?

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2 hours ago, buctootim said:

Has this been posted before? It should be a sticky on this thread. 

 

Knew most of that and quite a few people who have worked for him. Or rather did his work whilst he loafed and bumbled around. Fortunately by the top I studied at another top university 10 years after as first in my immediate family to attend his kind of behaviour was less common but when you hear about the ‘pleb baiting’ etc anyone in a Red Wall seat from a working class background who voted for him in 2019 should be embarrassed. Total disregard for themselves and their own communities. Corbyn is a twat but then don’t vote at all, realise they couldn’t vote Lib Dem because of ‘their’ Brexit, even though most of them didn’t understand what it meant. And Boris’s red bus NHS lie was part of that as well. Apparently they feel let down now but most of this information was in plain sight for anyone who could read or even listen. 

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29 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I know you in interpret a Poll in many ways, but Keef should be in a different post code to Boris

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/11/poll-says-keir-starmer-worse-choice-for-pm-than-boris-johnson

True but no need for Labour to panic just yet. The next election is 2 years away and the fact that Labour have a lead in the polls considering where they were after the last election is encouraging for them.

The longer that the fat clown stays in power the more damage that he does to the Conservative brand. If he stays until the next election I daresay that Basil Brush could win the election for Labour. 

 

 

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Starmer got flak for spending too much time concentrating on Partygate and Johnson’s personal failings and not commenting on the “major” issues of the day but the minute he turns attention onto a current “major” issue, the mess of the NHS, he gets criticised for that. Damned whatever he does. Fortunately the next election won’t be decided on one PM Questions session and the longer the greased piglet clings on to power, the more seats the Tories will lose in two years time.

Starmer may not have the charisma of the piglet, but he is a decent human being who wants to deal with the problems that most of us normal people are facing right now. Why anyone would still vote for the inept, self serving, bloated shagger God only knows but it proves one thing, there are plenty of turkeys out there still prepared to vote for Christmas.

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Forget policy, forget plans for the economy, schools, police, NHS - the only thing you need to do is get in bed with the media giants who control the message to the voters who can't be arsed to get informed.

Just convince the The 4th Viscount Rothermere and Murdoch etc that your government will serve their aims, as every PM has since the 90s, and the election is all but delivered to you on a plate.

Sad but true.

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5 hours ago, rallyboy said:

Forget policy, forget plans for the economy, schools, police, NHS - the only thing you need to do is get in bed with the media giants who control the message to the voters who can't be arsed to get informed.

Just convince the The 4th Viscount Rothermere and Murdoch etc that your government will serve their aims, as every PM has since the 90s, and the election is all but delivered to you on a plate.

Sad but true.

Whilst the Express, Mail in particular and the Telegraph to some degree are favourable to Johnson, I dont think this applies to Murdoch owned Times group.

The Sunday Times regularly have articles negative to Johnson.

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2 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Economy actually contracted in April. A bitter blow for the "yeah but imagine labour in power" crowd. Sunak will go down as one of the worst chancellors in history.

Stories of the economy contracting after Brexit are just "Project Fear".

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2 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Economy actually contracted in April. A bitter blow for the "yeah but imagine labour in power" crowd. Sunak will go down as one of the worst chancellors in history.

But hang on, haven't the Tories been telling us over and over that we've got the fastest growing economy in the universe recently?

They couldn't have ben lying, could they?

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25 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

But hang on, haven't the Tories been telling us over and over that we've got the fastest growing economy in the universe recently?

They couldn't have ben lying, could they?

I refer you to the earlier depressing point about the media.

If you can make up stuff that is never properly challenged or corrected, that is sufficient to fool enough voters to win elections.

The current policy is to boldly announce that we lead the world in everything - say it enough times and it becomes true, anyone who denies it is talking Britain down and will be branded by the Sun, the Mail and the Express as a UK-hating terrorist-sympathiser or a traitor.

Fact-free area, job done - no policy ideas required, welcome to Politics 2022.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

But hang on, haven't the Tories been telling us over and over that we've got the fastest growing economy in the universe recently?

They couldn't have ben lying, could they?

Either that or an economy can grow and contract over the course of a given period of time... ;)

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54 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

I refer you to the earlier depressing point about the media.

If you can make up stuff that is never properly challenged or corrected, that is sufficient to fool enough voters to win elections.

The current policy is to boldly announce that we lead the world in everything - say it enough times and it becomes true, anyone who denies it is talking Britain down and will be branded by the Sun, the Mail and the Express as a UK-hating terrorist-sympathiser or a traitor.

Fact-free area, job done - no policy ideas required, welcome to Politics 2022.

 

 

Crime is plummeting under the Tories…… ahhh but don’t count that crime. 

Worst economic forecast of all G20 countries (Russia apart). Considering we beat Covid before every country, Brexit freedom our economy is a fucking disaster. Although that’s what you get when you vote in talentless fools full of nothing but sound bites.

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1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

I refer you to the earlier depressing point about the media.

If you can make up stuff that is never properly challenged or corrected, that is sufficient to fool enough voters to win elections.

The current policy is to boldly announce that we lead the world in everything - say it enough times and it becomes true, anyone who denies it is talking Britain down and will be branded by the Sun, the Mail and the Express as a UK-hating terrorist-sympathiser or a traitor.

Fact-free area, job done - no policy ideas required, welcome to Politics 2022.

 

 

 

OK, guilty of treason then.

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2 hours ago, rallyboy said:

I refer you to the earlier depressing point about the media.

If you can make up stuff that is never properly challenged or corrected, that is sufficient to fool enough voters to win elections.

The current policy is to boldly announce that we lead the world in everything - say it enough times and it becomes true, anyone who denies it is talking Britain down and will be branded by the Sun, the Mail and the Express as a UK-hating terrorist-sympathiser or a traitor.

Fact-free area, job done - no policy ideas required, welcome to Politics 2022.

 

 

The current Government have disturbingly similar tactics to Putin, albeit 10 years behind. The insistence that everything is going swimmingly to plan,  constant counter narratives , attacks on those parts of media who don’t parrot their views, the lying, the breaking of agreements and promises and the refusal to be held to account. 
 

I would never have believed it could happen here but Johnson has gradually dismantled many of the norms that protected us. 

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49 minutes ago, buctootim said:

The current Government have disturbingly similar tactics to Putin, albeit 10 years behind. The insistence that everything is going swimmingly to plan,  constant counter narratives , attacks on those parts of media who don’t parrot their views, the lying, the breaking of agreements and promises and the refusal to be held to account. 
 

I would never have believed it could happen here but Johnson has gradually dismantled many of the norms that protected us. 

Underlined by him and the equally thick Truss ripping up his own ‘oven ready’ deal. The easiest in history so we were told after the referendum. It couldn’t be that Boris is a lying cunt who just wants to suck up to his more swivel eyed backbenchers and the DUP surely? The FT reporting that many more backbenchers very concerned at inflaming the NI issues and international reputation https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-61779169

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