The United Kingdom and the Death of Boris Johnson as we know it.

[badgerx16]

Boris' former boss, Max Hastings.....

"The only people who think Boris is a nice guy are those who do not know him".

 

Alistair Campbell........

"When you become the story, it is time to go."

[buctootim]

[farawaysaint]

Annoyingly it is almost guaranteed Boris will win the no confidence vote.

He will be untouchable for a year and the unbearable drivel about how we can now all move on and his mandate will make me want to top myself.

[whelk]

Malcolm Tucker needs to get hold of Dorries. Getting angry with Hunt and in doing so claiming we were hopelessly under prepared for Covid. That ain’t the line

[whelk]

13 minutes ago, farawaysaint said:

Annoyingly it is almost guaranteed Boris will win the no confidence vote.

He will be untouchable for a year and the unbearable drivel about how we can now all move on and his mandate will make me want to top myself.

He is toast mate. Doesn’t matter what happens tonight

[Sheaf Saint]

Mad Nad nailing her colours to the mast already. She only supports Johnson because she knows full well there isn't another candidate quite stupid or desperate enough to have her in their cabinet. Likewise Liz Truss.

She thinks she's being clever but all she is doing is admitting that her party were woefully unprepared for a pandemic, which she has strenuously denied previously. She couldn't outwit a blancmange.

[igsey]

33 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Mad Nad nailing her colours to the mast already. She only supports Johnson because she knows full well there isn't another candidate quite stupid or desperate enough to have her in their cabinet. Likewise Liz Truss.

She thinks she's being clever but all she is doing is admitting that her party were woefully unprepared for a pandemic, which she has strenuously denied previously. She couldn't outwit a blancmange.

This is important and I hope people take note, because if Johnson goes there will be an effort to rebrand the successor as the "new" Tory party, like Johnson himself successfully did after ousting May.

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, farawaysaint said:

Annoyingly it is almost guaranteed Boris will win the no confidence vote.

He will be untouchable for a year and the unbearable drivel about how we can now all move on and his mandate will make me want to top myself.

Graham Bradley has strongly hinted that the rule about no further challenge for a year might be removed.

Edited 6 June, 2022 by badgerx16

[buctootim]

6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Graham Bradley has strongly hinted that the rule about no further challenge for a year might be removed.

Don't know if that suggests overwhelming desire to get him out but some want to identify a succrssor first, or an evenly split party.  

[Sheaf Saint]

4 hours ago, whelk said:

…….

 

And here is the big reveal...

 

 

[rallyboy]

When Dido Harding's husband decides even they can no longer take money from this government and he jacks in his role because he thinks the PM should resign, that's like Gary Glitter saying you're too noncey for his liking.

The game is up - HMS Boris is fucked, it's just a matter of how long before it sinks, and how many fuckwits are still on the decks parroting excuses as they all slip beneath the waves.

Big decisions right, glug, glug, leading the world, glug, glug, vaccine rollout, glug, glug....glug....

[buctootim]

19 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

And here is the big reveal...

 

He has some good points, but trouble is rthe guys ego appears to be as big as Johnson's.  

[Lighthouse]

When the transfer windows opens, can we just trade BoJo for Estonia’s PM?

[RedArmy]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

And here is the big reveal...

 

 

[Sheaf Saint]

8 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Yeah it's not quite as explosive as he made it out to be is it. 

[buctootim]

15 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

When the transfer windows opens, can we just trade BoJo for Estonia’s PM?

Outrageous objectification. Sanna Marin of Finland is much better. 

[whelk]

6 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Yeah it's not quite as explosive as he made it out to be is it. 

Couldn’t work it out from screen shot. 

[Sheaf Saint]

 

Utterly shameless cunt. 

[AlexLaw76]

14 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

 

Utterly shameless cunt. 

he'd do it again as he (nor anyone else in No.10) were scared of Covid.  They probably realise the rules were ridiculous and no doubt will never be seen again!

Anyway, here is what he actually said (apparently)

Quote

The PM was very clear he would thank departing staff again.

 

Edited 6 June, 2022 by AlexLaw76

[sadoldgit]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

he'd do it again as he (nor anyone else in No.10) were scared of Covid.  They probably realise the rules were ridiculous and no doubt will never be seen again!

Anyway, here is what he actually said (apparently)

 

It is possible to thank departing staff and still adhere to socially distancing rules. Unless we have all missed something and the small print said that the PM is exempt and all staff leaving his service need a party and plenty to drink?

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

It is possible to thank departing staff and still adhere to socially distancing rules. Unless we have all missed something and the small print said that the PM is exempt and all staff leaving his service need a party and plenty to drink?

I agree, the rules were ridiculous and will never be seen again! 

[revolution saint]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I agree, the rules were ridiculous and will never be seen again! 

Presumably you'd be in favour of him going because he created rules that were ridiculous and should never have been implemented then?

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, revolution saint said:

Presumably you'd be in favour of him going because he created rules that were ridiculous and should never have been implemented then?

To get rid of a Prime Minister (or the Leader and Deputy Leader of the opposition) for Cake and Curry is barking mad.

 

[CB Fry]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

To get rid of a Prime Minister for Cake is barking mad.

Good job that isn't actually happening then.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, CB Fry said:

Good job that isn't actually happening then.

Agree, it is a good job

[farawaysaint]

I think the reasoning is more the lying to Parliament bit rather than the cake bit. The fact that he is the only sitting PM to ever have been confirmed to have broken the law is also pretty damning.

Edited 6 June, 2022 by farawaysaint

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

To get rid of a Prime Minister (or the Leader and Deputy Leader of the opposition) for Cake and Curry is barking mad.

 

So you keep telling us, while utterly failing to grasp that it's not the cake or the curry that is the real issue; it's the principle.

In other news, Mad Nad said in a live interview "the donors have spoken", thus admitting that the Tory party prioritises serving the interests of its corporate sponsors ahead of the interests of the nation.

She's the gift that keeps on giving.

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

So you keep telling us, while utterly failing to grasp that it's not the cake or the curry that is the real issue; it's the principle.

In other news, Mad Nad said in a live interview "the donors have spoken", thus admitting that the Tory party prioritises serving the interests of its corporate sponsors ahead of the interests of the nation.

She's the gift that keeps on giving.

No real difference to Labour bending the knee to their donors.

 

I agree, the principle was ridiculous and could cost the leader of the opposition (and his no.2) their jobs.  

[whelk]

14 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

To get rid of a Prime Minister (or the Leader and Deputy Leader of the opposition) for Cake and Curry is barking mad.

 

Are you actually getting thicker?

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, whelk said:

Are you actually getting thicker?

🤣

[Weston Super Saint]

5 hours ago, whelk said:

He is toast mate. Doesn’t matter what happens tonight

You seem to be under the impression that BoJo gives a shiny shit about morals and ethics.

If / when he wins the vote, he'll become more of a cock than he is now.

[badgerx16]

Tory MP Natalie Elphicke said that the Vote of Confidence "is not due to a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister".

What is it about then ?

[buctootim]

2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Tory MP Natalie Elphicke said that the Vote of Confidence "is not due to a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister".

What is it about then ?

Most worrying is that the blatant gaslighting lying sems to have to spread out from Johnson like a cancer. Its almosty Putinesque. He has to go for that reason alone. 

[whelk]

35 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

You seem to be under the impression that BoJo gives a shiny shit about morals and ethics.

If / when he wins the vote, he'll become more of a cock than he is now.

No one wins and recovers. Enough Tories know he has lost the confidence of the voters and cannot recover. Not policies but trust and cannot be won back. Been exposed.

Hope he does go on to next election as they will all be toast. 

[saint1977]

What do we reckon in terms of tonight? He’ll get the 180 in favour, would be very surprised if he didn’t. Under 75 against would be a big result, 90-100 medium damaging but could carry on. Over 100 worse damage, limping on and over 125 would be very challenging for any longer than 12 months. JRM said earlier that a victory by 1 was sufficient and was reminded of his quote from the ERG having launched the challenge v May. He had to apologise to her in effect on R5L. As for Dorries, saw the barrage v Hunt, haven’t seen the donors quote yet but let’s face it anyone with a brain knows they exist for their paymasters anyway. The paymasters have changed to some extent with Brexit eg Odey, JCB, Vote Leave and hangers on. Why I vote Lib Dem. 

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

What do we reckon in terms of tonight?

52% in his favour, 48% against.

Edited 6 June, 2022 by badgerx16

[Tamesaint]

18 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

What do we reckon in terms of tonight? He’ll get the 180 in favour, would be very surprised if he didn’t. Under 75 against would be a big result, 90-100 medium damaging but could carry on. Over 100 worse damage, limping on and over 125 would be very challenging for any longer than 12 months. JRM said earlier that a victory by 1 was sufficient and was reminded of his quote from the ERG having launched the challenge v May. He had to apologise to her in effect on R5L. As for Dorries, saw the barrage v Hunt, haven’t seen the donors quote yet but let’s face it anyone with a brain knows they exist for their paymasters anyway. The paymasters have changed to some extent with Brexit eg Odey, JCB, Vote Leave and hangers on. Why I vote Lib Dem. 

Apparently he would have done worse than Theresa May did in her no confidence vote if there are more than 133 votes against him. She only lasted s few months after that. If there are more than 133 votes against him, he really is a dead man walking.

Not quite sure how abstentions fit into that scenario. 

[badgerx16]

211 for, 148 against.

Over 40% of his MPs have no confidence in him

Edited 6 June, 2022 by badgerx16

[buctootim]

Ooh 211 to 148. He got to go 

Having 40% of your own MPs against you in untenable 

Edited 6 June, 2022 by buctootim

[saint1977]

18 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

Apparently he would have done worse than Theresa May did in her no confidence vote if there are more than 133 votes against him. She only lasted s few months after that. If there are more than 133 votes against him, he really is a dead man walking.

Not quite sure how abstentions fit into that scenario. 

211 for, 148 against. Wow, only 63 clear. Tories are as cohesive and broken as Saints playing a high line in the 4222 formation against a front two of Son and Mbappe.

Edited 6 June, 2022 by saint1977

[Lighthouse]

I don’t know about this vote, it lacks the fun and camp of Eurovision.

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, buctootim said:

Ooh 211 to 148. He got to go 

 

He won’t though. He won’t go until he is forced.

[badgerx16]

Just now, saint1977 said:

211 for, 148 against. Wow, only 63 clear. Tories are as cohesive as Saints playing a high line in the 4222 formation against a front two of Son and Mbappe.

63 clear, but only 32 away from losing the vote.

[spyinthesky]

If the Tories get caned in the upcoming By Elections will this be Bye Bye Boris?

[The Cat]

He did worse than Theresa May and she was eventually forced out.

[The Cat]

Just now, spyinthesky said:

If the Tories get caned in the upcoming By Elections will this be Bye Bye Boris?

More like when. They are polling something like 20% behind Labour in one seat.

[whelk]

6 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

He won’t though. He won’t go until he is forced.

He won’t have a prayer. His stooges calling it a handsome victory. They embarass themselves daily. Zero credibility as know exactly what they say regardless of the facts.

[RedArmy]

Time to call a snap election. 

[Weston Super Saint]

Lol.

He's not going anywhere. His puppet masters need him to carry on playing the fool for another year before they replace him.

[whelk]

12 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Lol.

He's not going anywhere. His puppet masters need him to carry on playing the fool for another year before they replace him.

His masters fear for a Labour Govt. Upcoming By Elections will give a stark message that this is a realistic possibility. He’s gone