The United Kingdom and the Death of Boris Johnson as we know it.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Johnson accused of breaking covid rule. Guy is a fat lying useless scumbag who should resign NOW. I could see my great aunties, cousins, nephews 28th birthday because of rules they made then broke. I demand answers and resignations 

 

kier Starmer accused of breaking covid rules. How desperate are the tories. no one wants to hear about pizza and beer, they should let labour get on with their jobs.it’s not the same. but but but the tories broke the rules as well. 

You lot 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Johnson has received a fine because his actions have been proven to be against the rules at the time, and is still subject to ongoing investigation into other incidents. There is evidence that Johnson himself organised parties and told people to bring their own booze. He was the very man who set the rules and told the country we weren't allowed to do these things.

Starmer had a beer with a takeaway during a work meeting.

I know you love to be a contrarian, but if you genuinely think there is any moral equivalence here and can't see the DM reporting for what it is - a simple hatchet job attempt ahead of the local elections - then you're an idiot.

[Turkish]

3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Johnson has received a fine because his actions have been proven to be against the rules at the time, and is still subject to ongoing investigation into other incidents. There is evidence that Johnson himself organised parties and told people to bring their own booze. He was the very man who set the rules and told the country we weren't allowed to do these things.

Starmer had a beer with a takeaway during a work meeting.

I know you love to be a contrarian, but if you genuinely think there is any moral equivalence here and can't see the DM reporting for what it is - a simple hatchet job attempt ahead of the local elections - then you're an idiot.

Wasn’t Boris first excuse was it was a “work meeting”? 🤔

[sadoldgit]

4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Tory supporting papers, supporting The Tories. Shocker 😂😂

Do you understand the difference between a General Election and local elections? People like you are half the problem with local accountability in this country. You’re too dopey to separate the two. 

I’m dopey? You are one of the fools who voted this lot in and continue to support them despite everything. And yes you weed crazed person, I do understand the different between local elections and the General Election. I think you have lost it Duckie, you are beginning to make even Turkish sound like an intellectual giant. Lay off the puff mate.

Edited 30 April, 2022 by sadoldgit
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[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Wasn’t Boris first excuse was it was a “work meeting”? 🤔

Boris said that nobody had told him he was at a party, despite having a cake with candles presented in front of him. If that is the level of awareness people are happy with in a Prime Minister who was responsible for introducing the CoViD rules and restrictions, and announcing them to the country, then they have the Government they deserve.

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Boris said that nobody had told him he was at a party, despite having a cake with candles presented in front of him. If that is the level of awareness people are happy with in a Prime Minister who was responsible for introducing the CoViD rules and restrictions, and announcing them to the country, then they have the Government they deserve.

It’s not about what people are happy for Boris to do. It’s more what people seem happy for Starmer to do

[Turkish]

19 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I’m dopey? You are one of the fools who voted this lot in and continue to support them despite everything. And yes you weed crazed person, I do understand the different between local elections and the General Election. I think you have lost it Duckie, you are beginning to make even Turkish sound like an intellectual giant. Lay off the puff mate.

We established that years ago. 

[badgerx16]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s not about what people are happy for Boris to do. It’s more what people seem happy for Starmer to do

Starmer didn't introduce the rules then give the impression he had no idea what they were.

Starmer isn't running the country, nor is he the face of the UK on the international stage.

[Matthew Le God]

44 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I’m dopey?

 

24 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We established that years ago. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

4 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

 

Starmer had a beer with a takeaway during a work meeting.

 

That’s as much bollocks as Johnson’s pony excuses. 
 

He was seen with a beer at 10pm. It was clearly a drink and bite to eat after a long day working. Fair play, personally I don’t think there should be anything wrong with that (or what Boris did), but it was obviously end of day drinks, not a refreshment break during work hours. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

32 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Starmer didn't introduce the rules then give the impression he had no idea what they were.

Starmer isn't running the country, nor is he the face of the UK on the international stage.

No, but his office lied about Raynor being there. Can you imagine your faux outrage if The Tories claimed Sunak wasn’t at a Boris event, and later it emerged that he was. 
 

Personally, I don’t see what “being the face” of the UK or running the country should have with administering the law. Just as nobody should be above the law because of who they are, nobody should be subjected to stricter enforcement of that law, because of who they are. If this was an ordinary Joe there’s absolutely no doubt the Met wouldn’t have investigated retrospectively, absolutely zero chance. The Sue Grey investigation is entirely appropriate, the Met one isn’t. My opinion is they’re embarrassed they had senior officers that knew all about it at the time and are embarrassed they did fuck all then. 

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Starmer didn't introduce the rules then give the impression he had no idea what they were.

Starmer isn't running the country, nor is he the face of the UK on the international stage.

He's not running the country but he sure as shit should be polling way higher than Boris.  Most incompetent PM since Teresa May and Starmer looks like a mouse in the headlights. 

[Weston Super Saint]

32 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

No, but his office lied about Raynor being there. Can you imagine your faux outrage if The Tories claimed Sunak wasn’t at a Boris event, and later it emerged that he was. 
 

Personally, I don’t see what “being the face” of the UK or running the country should have with administering the law. Just as nobody should be above the law because of who they are, nobody should be subjected to stricter enforcement of that law, because of who they are. If this was an ordinary Joe there’s absolutely no doubt the Met wouldn’t have investigated retrospectively, absolutely zero chance. The Sue Grey investigation is entirely appropriate, the Met one isn’t. My opinion is they’re embarrassed they had senior officers that knew all about it at the time and are embarrassed they did fuck all then. 

Probaly embarrased that their own officers were charged with letting people into number 10 and didn't 'notice' the parties were going on / didn't bother to do anything about them...

[badgerx16]

9 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

He's not running the country but he sure as shit should be polling way higher than Boris.  Most incompetent PM since Teresa May and Starmer looks like a mouse in the headlights. 

All the current national polls have Labour ahead by between 5% and 8%, and in London Labour are 50%:23%. Starmer is also polling ahead of BoJo as preferred PM.

[Weston Super Saint]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

All the current national polls have Labour ahead by between 5% and 8%, and in London Labour are 50%:23%. Starmer is also polling ahead of BoJo as preferred PM.

Against Boris, anything under 90% is a failure.

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Against Boris, anything under 90% is a failure.

Unfortunately there are more than 10% of the country who are diehard Brexiteers who think Boris walks on water because he "Got It Done", so nobody would be able to acheive your estimation.

What is interesting is that Starmer is polling around 50%:23% against Sunak as next PM.

[kyle04]

9 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Johnson has many of Churchill's attributes, including stubbornness in the face of all contradictory evidence, racism, and a refusal to admit mistakes or errors. WSC was no paragon, in fact if it weren't for WW2, ( during which he made several disastrous decisions ), and the ousting of Neville Chamberlain after the invasion of France in 1940, he may well have lived out his life as an outcast in the political wilderness.

Wasn't Churchill responsible for the disastrous Gallipoli campaign in WW1 ? For all his faults (like being pissed up for most of WW2), he did see Hitler for what he was when many were skeptical, notably Chamberlain as mentioned (and also the threat of Stalin). Bojo is certainly no Churchill. He's played well in the Ukraine crisis to be fair, showing decisive and unwavering support in what is the biggest threat to world peace since the Cuban missile crisis. However, his home form has been pretty shocking. I've always thought him to be too frivolous for the role, even as he was made Foreign Sec I winced. It's not only the Tories, whose stock is sinking by the day, our politicians in general don't seem to possess the gravitas they used to have. Starmer needs to up his game and present a credible electable alternative to this self serving, filtching, morally bankrupt excuse for a government.

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[whelk]

20 hours ago, Turkish said:

Johnson accused of breaking covid rule. Guy is a fat lying useless scumbag who should resign NOW. I could see my great aunties, cousins, nephews 28th birthday because of rules they made then broke. I demand answers and resignations 

 

kier Starmer accused of breaking covid rules. How desperate are the tories. no one wants to hear about pizza and beer, they should let labour get on with their jobs.it’s not the same. but but but the tories broke the rules as well. 

You lot 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Just like the Capitol riots Jan 6th and anti Brexit marches eh?

Edited 1 May, 2022 by whelk

[sadoldgit]

13 hours ago, kyle04 said:

Wasn't Churchill responsible for the disastrous Gallipoli campaign in WW1 ? For all his faults (like being pissed up for most of WW2), he did see Hitler for what he was when many were skeptical, notably Chamberlain as mentioned (and also the threat of Stalin). Bojo is certainly no Churchill. He's played well in the Ukraine crisis to be fair, showing decisive and unwavering support in what is the biggest threat to world peace since the Cuban missile crisis. However, his home form has been pretty shocking. I've always thought him to be too frivolous for the role, even as he was made Foreign Sec I winced. It's not only the Tories, whose stock is sinking by the day, our politicians in general don't seem to possess the gravitas they used to have. Starmer needs to up his game and present a credible electable alternative to this self serving, filtching, morally bankrupt excuse for a government.

There is a new narrative that paints Chamberlain in a different light. Not seen the film yet but apparently it is saying that Chamberlain’s appeasement policy helped in buying time to arm the country as we weren’t ready militarily or mentally for a war with Hitler. In the year or so before war finally broke out the RAF, for example, was able to build enough planes to mount a reasonable defence against the Luftwaffe. There was a greater fear about Communism and Hitler was seen as being a force against that. There was no appetite for war after WW1, especially to protect a far off land like Czechslovakia ( echos of Ukraine) and the western alliance, at that point, was weak. So while trying to prevent a major war in Europe, he also paved the ground for fighting one if certain historical perspectives are to be believed. Munich - The Edge of War is the film.
Let’s just hope that history doesn’t repeat itself, but there are many parallels between Hitler’s aims for Germany and Putin’s for Russia, not to mention the Western stance so far in allowing Putin to takes what he wants by military force.

Edited 1 May, 2022 by sadoldgit

[rallyboy]

We finally find an MP with the integrity to admit a mistake and resign.

Granted, he is a seedy tractor pervert with a dangerously relaxed attitude to what's acceptable in the work place, but it's a start and should act as an example to others.

Made a huge mistake or been caught doing something criminal?

Admit it and resign.

 

[Lord Duckhunter]

16 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

All the current national polls have Labour ahead by between 5% and 8%, and in London Labour are 50%:23%. Starmer is also polling ahead of BoJo as preferred PM.

Blair was regularly 40 points above Major at the same stage of that Parliament. Starmer needs the swing Blair got to have a majority of 1. Doesn’t look likely at the moment, he’s got the personality of a wet lettuce. 

[Matthew Le God]

[rallyboy]

So The Mail has been caught out pretending that a photo from 2015 is Kier Starmer breaking Covid rules, they were also exposed as inventing the Rayner rumour back in January, while our beloved BBC seems keen on a news blackout about the massive story of a police raid over PPE corruption.

Stay alert folks, this week you'll need to find most of the news yourselves.

[sadoldgit]

254 asylum seekers attempted to cross the English Channel in  small boats/dinghies yesterday. Seems like Priti Patel’s cunning plan to deter them hasn’t got off to the most auspicious start.

[Winnersaint]

2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

254 asylum seekers attempted to cross the English Channel in  small boats/dinghies yesterday. Seems like Priti Patel’s cunning plan to deter them hasn’t got off to the most auspicious start.

See the cunt has escaped from the cunt farm again!

[Tamesaint]

35 minutes ago, Winnersaint said:

See the cunt has escaped from the cunt farm again!

I was wondering what the second part of his name badge said:

" TIT AND IGNORANT"?

"TIT AND STUPID"?

"TIT AND A CUNT"?

 

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, rallyboy said:

So The Mail has been caught out pretending that a photo from 2015 is Kier Starmer breaking Covid rules, they were also exposed as inventing the Rayner rumour back in January, while our beloved BBC seems keen on a news blackout about the massive story of a police raid over PPE corruption.

Stay alert folks, this week you'll need to find most of the news yourselves.

The BBC has 'refused to comment on why it hasn't covered the raid on Margaret Mone's home'.

Apparently this was a CCTV picture from a news Editor's meeting.

[whelk]

6 hours ago, rallyboy said:

So The Mail has been caught out pretending that a photo from 2015 is Kier Starmer breaking Covid rules, they were also exposed as inventing the Rayner rumour back in January, while our beloved BBC seems keen on a news blackout about the massive story of a police raid over PPE corruption.

Stay alert folks, this week you'll need to find most of the news yourselves.

And that thick cow Dorries is doubling down on it. Media minister spreading misinformation. Pathetic how desperate and untrustworthy these cunts are. Seriously don’t know how anyone can want such people running the country regardless of your politics 

[rallyboy]

This week they will say literally ANYTHING to try and reduce damage at the forthcoming elections. 

It will be a week of made-up shit and distractions, dead cat after dead cat, brace yourself for some mad shit and parroted nonsense on a loop. 

[badgerx16]

Nadine Dorries posts a picture of Keir Starmer 'breaking lockdown rules' whilst sitting alongside Frank Dobson. Does he now have to power to resurrect the dead ?

Edited 3 May, 2022 by badgerx16

[badgerx16]

16 hours ago, Winnersaint said:

See the cunt has escaped from the cunt farm again!

Single male in a dinghy in the Channel - shouldn't he now be on a plane to Rwanda ?

[Warriorsaint]

On 01/05/2022 at 12:22, Lord Duckhunter said:

Blair was regularly 40 points above Major at the same stage of that Parliament. Starmer needs the swing Blair got to have a majority of 1. Doesn’t look likely at the moment, he’s got the personality of a wet lettuce. 

Ahhhhh, there he/she is, the intellectual equivalent of a sheep testicle.

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Nadine Dorries posts a picture of Keir Starmer 'breaking lockdown rules' whilst sitting alongside Frank Dobson. Does he now have to power to resurrect the dead ?

Another classic cock up from the person who revealed that she didn’t have a clue how Channel 4 is funded when she announced that it would be privatised. It makes you wonder how members of our current cabinet manage to dress themselves in the morning. Another day, another gaff. Sad thing is there are still some who will be saying, yeah, but look at the lack of opposition and keep voting for them 🙄. A compelling case for Darwinism if one were needed.

[Jeremy Corbyn]

Things are warming up nicely for Thursday.  If the Tories get trashed it might be the end for BoJo.

[spyinthesky]

22 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Another classic cock up from the person who revealed that she didn’t have a clue how Channel 4 is funded when she announced that it would be privatised. It makes you wonder how members of our current cabinet manage to dress themselves in the morning. Another day, another gaff. Sad thing is there are still some who will be saying, yeah, but look at the lack of opposition and keep voting for them 🙄. A compelling case for Darwinism if one were needed.

Wouldnt it be interesting if Nadine Dorries and Dianne Abbott were both in Government together under the control of Liz Truss

[badgerx16]

18 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Wouldnt it be interesting if Nadine Dorries and Dianne Abbott were both in Government together under the control of Liz Truss

"Interesting" is not the word I would use.

[sadoldgit]

50 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Things are warming up nicely for Thursday.  If the Tories get trashed it might be the end for BoJo.

Careful or you will have the usual suspects jumping all over you telling you that you don’t know the difference between a general election and local elections! I agree though that if the Tories loose large numbers of seats and control of local councils the pressure will mount on Johnson. He will no doubt brush it off as mid terms blues, promise to double down and focus on the important issues of the day (shagging, photo opportunities, finding new ways of not resigning etc.) and carry on being just as deceitful and as useless as before. The question is at what point will those who pull the strings within the party say enough is enough? Their golden boy waiting in the wings has blotted his copy book and there doesn’t seem to be another leader in waiting lined up yet (please don’t mention Truss, Dorries, Raab, in fact any of those who have had a high profile under Johnson).  It is depressing to think that we have another two years of this but if the Great British public can be arsed to get out of their collective armchairs and stupor this Thursday maybe we will have a reason to be a bit more optimistic about the future come Friday morning.

[whelk]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Nadine Dorries posts a picture of Keir Starmer 'breaking lockdown rules' whilst sitting alongside Frank Dobson. Does he now have to power to resurrect the dead ?

That is only to illustrate what the Labour leader eating a curry looks like and not in any way meant to be him eating curry during lockdown. Scary how stupid they think we are although that is answered by some posters on here. So easy to manipulate it is embarrassing but you see why they do it.

[ecuk268]

6 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Another classic cock up from the person who revealed that she didn’t have a clue how Channel 4 is funded when she announced that it would be privatised. It makes you wonder how members of our current cabinet manage to dress themselves in the morning. Another day, another gaff. Sad thing is there are still some who will be saying, yeah, but look at the lack of opposition and keep voting for them 🙄. A compelling case for Darwinism if one were needed.

She was also giving Channel 5 as an example of a successful privatisation despite the fact that it was never publicly owned. 

[Sheaf Saint]

11 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

She was also giving Channel 5 as an example of a successful privatisation despite the fact that it was never publicly owned. 

It takes a special kind of stupid to really stand out among this particular government as being by far and away the dimmest of the lot.

The trouble with Dorries is that she isn't just stupid, she's a spiteful cow with a superiority complex as well.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

with a superiority complex as well.

 

[Warriorsaint]

On 30/04/2022 at 18:35, Lord Duckhunter said:

pony

Indeed duckpumper indeed.

[Warriorsaint]

3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

 

Spotted any immigrunts in the channel muckhunter? The mail is missing a racist.

[ecuk268]

3 hours ago, Warriorsaint said:

Spotted any immigrunts in the channel muckhunter? The mail is missing a racist.

They've stopped coming according to Tory idiot Andrew Bridgen, because of Patel's Rwanda scheme.

Apart from the 300 over the last few days.

[sadoldgit]

Apparently the traffickers are bumping up trade telling people they need to cross before the scheme kicks in. Not true as it is retrospective but desperate people will do desperate things. According to the i tomorrow the whole plan is a complete mess anyway (what a surprise).

Johnson making a complete fool of himself yet again by responding to claims that pensioners are spending all day on buses because it is warm and they can’t afford to heat their homes by boasting that it was he that provided them with travel passes! 
 

Beyond parody.

 

Edited 3 May, 2022 by sadoldgit

[badgerx16]

18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Apparently the traffickers are bumping up trade telling people they need to cross before the scheme kicks in. Not true as it is retrospective but desperate people will do desperate things. According to the i tomorrow the whole plan is a complete mess anyway (what a surprise).

Johnson making a complete fool of himself yet again by responding to claims that pensioners are spending all day on buses because it is warm and they can’t afford to heat their homes by boasting that it was he that provided them with travel passes! 
 

Beyond parody.

 

Even then he lied.

The Freedom Pass was introduced in the early 1970s.

[Jeremy Corbyn]

9 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Even then he lied.

The Freedom Pass was introduced in the early 1970s.

Christ.  I hope the next government, in whatever form, will introduce some sort of integrity bill so that MPs can't just willfully lie all the fucking time.

[badgerx16]

The Rwanda deportation scheme is on hold for 'many months' after legal challenges are submitted. Priti promised the first flights would occur this month.

[Whitey Grandad]

10 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Even then he lied.

The Freedom Pass was introduced in the early 1970s.

His first thought was “how does this affect me?” rather than empathy for the poor lady.

[ecuk268]

12 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Apparently the traffickers are bumping up trade telling people they need to cross before the scheme kicks in. Not true as it is retrospective but desperate people will do desperate things. According to the i tomorrow the whole plan is a complete mess anyway (what a surprise).

Johnson making a complete fool of himself yet again by responding to claims that pensioners are spending all day on buses because it is warm and they can’t afford to heat their homes by boasting that it was he that provided them with travel passes! 
 

Beyond parody.

 

It's a wonder he didn't suggest sending them to Rwanda.

 

[Turkish]

13 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Apparently the traffickers are bumping up trade telling people they need to cross before the scheme kicks in. Not true as it is retrospective but desperate people will do desperate things. According to the i tomorrow the whole plan is a complete mess anyway (what a surprise).

Johnson making a complete fool of himself yet again by responding to claims that pensioners are spending all day on buses because it is warm and they can’t afford to heat their homes by boasting that it was he that provided them with travel passes! 
 

Beyond parody.

 

The best thing about Johnson is you hate him so much and it winds you up so much and there is nothing you can do about it apart from type furiously away on your computer working yourself up into a frothy mess.