Verbal Posted 27 January, 2022 Share Posted 27 January, 2022 14 hours ago, aintforever said: Bring friends with an anti-Semite doesn’t make you one. Just means you have poor judgment. Ducky is in all the obvious ways a huge balloon but he's right on this. Corbyn seems unable to distinguish between supporting Palestinians and sidling up to anti-Semites. The majority of British Jews have concluded that this is such a repeated pattern that it's fair to regard Corbyn as an anti-semite himself. Similarly 'Jeremy' is unable to see that his loud protestations about regime change, as chair of Stop Some Wars, require him to say something about the Russians' brutal threats against Ukrainians. But no, not a single word - his knee-jerk anti-Westernism blinds him to anything Russia might do, like invade a country or carry out biological-warfare attacks against his enemies in countries such as Britain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 January, 2022 Share Posted 27 January, 2022 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av-embeds/60159226/vpid/p0bkp6nx Edited 27 January, 2022 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 January, 2022 Share Posted 27 January, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, trousers said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av-embeds/60159226/vpid/p0bkp6nx So all the things he denies doing are in fact deliberate acts of deflection. Edited 27 January, 2022 by badgerx16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 27 January, 2022 Share Posted 27 January, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 27 January, 2022 Share Posted 27 January, 2022 Looks like Ducky is going to have to take any job now that BJ has clamped down on the options. Tis a shame but now ducky can’t claim immigrants took all the jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 28 January, 2022 Share Posted 28 January, 2022 Govt, Police, Media all interwoven & corrupt to the core. This once great country in truly fucked! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 January, 2022 Share Posted 28 January, 2022 So the Sue Gray report is only allowed to include minimal reference to anything the Met is investigating. In other words a report into rule breaking at No10 can’t include any details of anything that actually broke the rules. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 28 January, 2022 Share Posted 28 January, 2022 47 minutes ago, aintforever said: So the Sue Gray report is only allowed to include minimal reference to anything the Met is investigating. In other words a report into rule breaking at No10 can’t include any details of anything that actually broke the rules. The Sue Gray report will be widely regarded as a stitch up if it is as limited as it sounds. It will all backfire on Fatty if it is not taken seriously after he has waited so long for it to prove his innocence. An obvious stitch up will destroy any credibility the Fat Git still possesses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 28 January, 2022 Share Posted 28 January, 2022 He has none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 28 January, 2022 Share Posted 28 January, 2022 (edited) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1039751/Terms_of_Reference_-_Cabinet_Secretary_Investigations_-_December_2021.docx.pdf Quote "As with all internal investigations, if during the course of the work any evidence emerges of behaviour that is potentially a criminal offence, the matter will be referred to the police and the Cabinet Office’s work may be paused." Edited 28 January, 2022 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 January, 2022 Share Posted 28 January, 2022 2 hours ago, Tamesaint said: The Sue Gray report will be widely regarded as a stitch up if it is as limited as it sounds. It will all backfire on Fatty if it is not taken seriously after he has waited so long for it to prove his innocence. An obvious stitch up will destroy any credibility the Fat Git still possesses. Im not so sure. Politically what he has done is seismic but on a purely criminal basis its minor. So the danger is the Sue Gray report is neutered because the main transgressions are removed from her remit. The people at the parties will probably only get cautioned or get a fixed penalty less than I did for speeding on the A23 last year. That enables him to claim 'hands up' i made a minor boo boo just like many of us do, look over here at how tough Im being on Russia and the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 28 January, 2022 Share Posted 28 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 21:20, aintforever said: Bring friends with an anti-Semite doesn’t make you one. Just means you have poor judgment. Also being anti-Israel, is not being anti-semitic, it's being against the acts of a nation state that has acted appallingly and is propped up the US. It's the go to move to deflect criticism of Israel, just call the legitimate criticism racist and you deflect away from having to deal with the truth. It's like saying if someone criticises the US for it's illegal wars, you are being anti-christian or if you criticise Saudi Arabia for slaughtering the people of Yeman it's anti-muslim. Has nothing to do with the people but how these states act and go about their business, and also this general approach where complicated issues which have bad actors on both sides in the history of the conflict, the west generally picks one side as the good guys. That is basically what happens with Israel, when they have clearly done a lot of effed up stuff to the Palestinians. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 January, 2022 Share Posted 30 January, 2022 Boris was banned from taking secret papers out of his office as he could not be trusted not to leave them lying around for anyone visiting his and Carrie's flat to see. Also, the much trumpeted 'new' Levelling Up monies aimed at saving his arse in the Red Wall constituencies, and deflecting from Partygate, are just rebadged finances announced last year. Desperate times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 30 January, 2022 Share Posted 30 January, 2022 Interesting interview with Cummings https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/dominic-cummings-the-man-trying-to-take-down-boris-johnson.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2022 I see Boris and Rishi saying they are pushing ahead with the Tax rise. I am in absolutely no doubt they want to push it through entirely so they can lop it off again in the budget of 2024 just conveniently in time for the election that summer and ride in on a "look at us lowering taxes" message. And it will work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 30 January, 2022 Share Posted 30 January, 2022 1 hour ago, whelk said: Interesting interview with Cummings https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/dominic-cummings-the-man-trying-to-take-down-boris-johnson.html Excellent feature. Thanks for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2022 9 hours ago, whelk said: Interesting interview with Cummings https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/dominic-cummings-the-man-trying-to-take-down-boris-johnson.html Good read. Reminds you that this is a war where it is incredibly easy to want both sides to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 (edited) The Sue Gray update is out. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-into-alleged-gatherings-on-government-premises-during-covid-restrictions-update Considering she’s not been allowed to report on anything at all of the interesting bits, it’s pretty obvious what the content of the full report will be and it’s not a good look for No. 10. Whether the full report will ever see the light of day is doubtful, mind. Edited 31 January, 2022 by The Kraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Kraken said: The Sue Gray update is out. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-into-alleged-gatherings-on-government-premises-during-covid-restrictions-update Considering she’s not been allowed to report on anything at all of the interesting bits, it’s pretty obvious what the content of the full report will be and it’s not a good look for No. 10. Whether the full report will ever see the light of day is doubtful, mind. I'm sure I'm missing something but surely once the police investigation is over either 1. There will be charges or 2. There will be nothing but then the full report can be released? Obviously if Boris is charged then it's over, but if he's not but there is clear evidence that he was involved in the parties then surely he has to go for lying to parliament (amongst other things)? If the met conclude "it's impossible to make any firm conclusions" or something, there should be riots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 "Serious failures of leadership" in the 16 'events' investigated, including at least one in his flat which is specifically identified as not being work related. Within the next few minutes he will stand up in Westminster, acknowledge the findings, apologise profusely, state that lessons will be learned, and then carry on regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 31 January, 2022 I think we all need to wait until the Metropolitan Police have concluded their investigation and then we can all move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 Teresa May : "He either didn't read the rules, didn't understand the rules, or ignored the rules". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 What's the betting that the fixed penalty fine he gets becomes an "expense" for an MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 He had a f**king shocker there, it was like watching Mike Dean trying to referee Argentina v Brazil without a whistle - a hollow wishy-washy statement followed by a sound kicking from all corners. This brief update of the main report has implicated him, and shown very clearly that he misled parliament. No serving PM should need to be investigated by the police - that's resignation time. And we don't need to wait for anything, the enquiry has already unearthed enough. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 Come on fatty f**k off 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 Kier Starmer’s admonishing of him was very well delivered. I’m still not fully convinced on Starmer but him and his party are a million times more attractive that the sorry sack of shit on the benches opposite them. Ian Blackford was brilliant 🤣 so glad he didn’t back down and retract on calling Johnson a liar, which he so clearly is. And hats off Teresa May. Such a succinct accusation and question she made that the fat liar simply had no answer to, so he ducked it. That was fun to watch! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 One Lancashire Tory MP stated that her constituents had told her he was a "Wally", and asked Boris' response. He claimed he hadn't heard her comment - everybody watching on TV heard it. Kudos to Teresa May and Ian Blackford. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 (edited) I for one would like to hear @Guided Missile’s musings on this. Pass me the popcorn. Edited 31 January, 2022 by Plastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 The Boris Johnson Special Protection Squad, ( aka the Metropolitan Police ), have said it won't take longer than a year for them to examine the photographs and other evidence so as to determine whether parties tok place and who was, or was not, present. It took only a few minutes for each of the fixed penalty notices they issued for breaches of the regulations by Joe Public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 Surely he will be gone on the morning? He cannot stand another mauling like he had in the debate today from all sides of the House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 So a Prime Minister can intentionally mislead parliament and it’s fine, but if someone points it out they get kicked out. The place has become a joke, it’s like we’ve slipped into a parallel universe where facts are just an irrelevance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: Kier Starmer’s admonishing of him was very well delivered. I’m still not fully convinced on Starmer but him and his party are a million times more attractive that the sorry sack of shit on the benches opposite them. Ian Blackford was brilliant 🤣 so glad he didn’t back down and retract on calling Johnson a liar, which he so clearly is. And hats off Teresa May. Such a succinct accusation and question she made that the fat liar simply had no answer to, so he ducked it. That was fun to watch! Teresa May will not be everyone's cup of tea but at least very few, if any, people would question her attention to detail and honesty, which seems to be entirely lacking with Bumbling Boris. For someone who is generally to the right of centre with my political view and was not, in any way enamoured by Jeremy Corben, I now consider the right wing jokers associated with Johnson are even worse. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 (edited) Nadine Dorries comes across as deranged. Another one way out of depth. Politics is so depressing when there are so few of any substance Edited 31 January, 2022 by whelk 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 Dorries is utterly thick as shit. She only got where she is by being Johnson’s lickspittle and she’s forever ostracised to back benches when he’s gone. So she takes the only option she has, entrench that tongue of hers firmly up Boris’ sizeable arse and breathe it all in. Despicable human being and the very embodiment of what is wrong with politics, party over country every time for these wankers. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 To back up what you are saying Kraken i saw her on Sky and she was car crash there as well 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 1 hour ago, aintforever said: So a Prime Minister can intentionally mislead parliament and it’s fine, but if someone points it out they get kicked out. The place has become a joke, it’s like we’ve slipped into a parallel universe where facts are just an irrelevance. If you throw enough lies out there and repeat them endlessly then eventually some of them become accepted 'truth;. The Brexit campaign demonstrated this perfectly. He knows full well that in a year's time when the Met investigation comes to it's conclusions most people will have filed the current situation as 'oh well, whatever, never mind'. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, whelk said: To back up what you are saying Kraken i saw her on Sky and she was car crash there as well "excessive consumption of alcohol is not appropriate in a professional workplace at any time" @SueGray Edited 31 January, 2022 by badgerx16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 Does Nadine Dorries actually have a drink problem, or is she just an overly-aggressive, pigshit-thick and thoroughly unpleasant excuse for a minister? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 8 minutes ago, rallyboy said: Does Nadine Dorries actually have a drink problem, or is she just an overly-aggressive, pigshit-thick and thoroughly unpleasant excuse for a minister? Looked pissed tonight. Head swaying all over the show. But yes thick and nasty too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 Some cracking stats for the Tories to mull over A consistent picture across the snap polls tonight. Opinium - 64% want the PM to resign YouGov - 63% want the PM to resign Savanta - 69% want the PM to resign 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 January, 2022 Share Posted 31 January, 2022 1 hour ago, rallyboy said: Does Nadine Dorries actually have a drink problem, or is she just an overly-aggressive, pigshit-thick and thoroughly unpleasant excuse for a minister? There’s always the possibility it’s both. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 9 hours ago, rallyboy said: Does Nadine Dorries actually have a drink problem, or is she just an overly-aggressive, pigshit-thick and thoroughly unpleasant excuse for a minister? The Boris cabinet is starting to feel like the Corbyn shadow cabinet, only full of those stupid enough to be part of it. Any competent Tories will be staying clear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 (edited) Liz Truss attends a packed HoC for Boris' sham, stays on in a less well attended chamber to give her own statement on the Ukraine situation, then tests positive for CoViD and has to start isolation. If Boris is going East in the next few days he will have to do without his Foreign Secretary. ( Mind you, that might not be a bad thing ). EDIT: Nadim Zahawi has also tested positive after yesterday. Looking at the pictures, the only two on the Government front bench wearing masks were Rishi Sunak and Sajid Javid. This might turn out to be a 'super spreader' event amongst the Tories. Edited 1 February, 2022 by badgerx16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 12 hours ago, spyinthesky said: Teresa May will not be everyone's cup of tea but at least very few, if any, people would question her attention to detail and honesty, which seems to be entirely lacking with Bumbling Boris. For someone who is generally to the right of centre with my political view and was not, in any way enamoured by Jeremy Corben, I now consider the right wing jokers associated with Johnson are even worse. The Tories have become a joke party where the policies are the ones eg beetroot faced gits who are there every day reading the Sun come up with at 11.40 in Wetherspoons after the 3rd pint of 99p Ruddles County. Populist nonsense basically. Trying to be the Republicans light (very light) but failing. The ENP - English Nationalist Party. Unfortunately I suspect their support base is holding up more than we think. Many sensible Tories have left but Labour has Momentum to deal with and some the new 2019 voters will be very stubborn. Well done to May, Mitchell, Baker (did I just say that?) and Bell especially yesterday for speaking up in the national interest. Shame on all of the toadies and brownosers. They literally had whole turds on their noses with the sycophantic questions, especially the seemingly well refreshed Dorries. Can’t stand Ian Blackford but why was he kicked out for pointing out the obvious? Hoyle had a brain fart there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 12 hours ago, whelk said: To back up what you are saying Kraken i saw her on Sky and she was car crash there as well She sounded like the thick local resident they grab off the street on the local news to ask her what she thinks about the nearest post office shutting down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 February, 2022 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2022 9 hours ago, whelk said: Some cracking stats for the Tories to mull over A consistent picture across the snap polls tonight. Opinium - 64% want the PM to resign YouGov - 63% want the PM to resign Savanta - 69% want the PM to resign What's the percentage of people saying he's playing a blinder? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 Why on earth is it going to take up to a year to conclude their investigations by the Met? Sue Gray has done most of the work for them. It’s hardly a murder investigation. Just mostly checking facts which shouldn’t take that long. They didn’t take a year to hand out fixed penalties to all the other who broke the lockdown laws. As for yesterday, if that wasn’t enough to finally bury this imbecile, what is? He has moved past being a national embarrassment and surely even the thickest gammons can see that the Tories are toast electorally if they keep him. Apart from making himself look even more inept, if yesterday did one thing it finally buried the bollocks some right wingers keep peddling about Starmer being responsible for not prosecuting Savile. What an indictment of our archaic system that someone gets thrown out of the chamber for calling out a liar who has just, for the umpteenth time, lied in the chamber (where lying to Parliament is supposed to be a resigning offence). Now we have the prospect of Johnson and Truss dealing with Putin over the Ukraine situation. Dear God. I am not sure what is worse, waking up again to see this lying charlatan still lording it up as PM, the pathetic enablers they wheel out to support him still or the vox pop interviewees they manage to find who still support him. If this is what Britain post Brexit has become, it can f**k right off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 Shame, although the right thing to do, that the Southend By election this week wasn’t contested by Labour and Lib Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 1 hour ago, Turkish said: She sounded like the thick local resident they grab off the street on the local news to ask her what she thinks about the nearest post office shutting down. She doesn’t even understand how Channel 4 is funded and they trust this idiot to reform the BBC? I keep thinkinf of the Malcolm Tucker reaction to this shitshow and what he might be screaming as a result of a pissed Dorries being put up to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 February, 2022 Share Posted 1 February, 2022 2 minutes ago, whelk said: Shame, although the right thing to do, that the Southend By election this week wasn’t contested by Labour and Lib Dems. Has Spoiled Ballots ever come top of a poll ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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