The United Kingdom and the Death of Boris Johnson as we know it.

[Sheaf Saint]

And you two accuse me of bias and whataboutery!

 

It's a very simple question - do you think Boris Johnson is fit to be PM?

 

Yes or No?

[hypochondriac]

And you two accuse me of bias and whataboutery!

 

It's a very simple question - do you think Boris Johnson is fit to be PM?

 

Yes or No?

I don't think he is, I don't think any of them are but that's not how politics works. I'd rather someone else was pm but he's more fit to be pm than Corbyn by far which is all that matters. Edited 29 November, 2019 by hypochondriac

[doddisalegend]

Jeez man up. You’re a right wing slightly bigoted Tory who consistently slams everything coming from non tories. Everybody who reads your posts knows that. I don’t know get why you persist in trying to cultivate some kind of tolerant open to persuasion persona.

 

I'd say you nailed him perfectly there...

 

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[hypochondriac]

I'd say you nailed him perfectly there...

 

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Well I'm not a tory, I'm not bigoted and I'm not right wing so you're wrong. I know some people like labels because it makes things easier but life is more complicated than that. Edited 29 November, 2019 by hypochondriac

[Sheaf Saint]

Well I'm not a tory, I'm not bigoted and I'm not right wing so you're wrong. I know some people like labels because it makes things easier but life is more complicated than that.

 

Says a man who previously admitted that he chose an avatar featuring a known alt-right symbol because it winds up lefties.

[Batman]

And you two accuse me of bias and whataboutery!

 

It's a very simple question - do you think Boris Johnson is fit to be PM?

 

Yes or No?

 

No. Not really.

[hypochondriac]

Says a man who previously admitted that he chose an avatar featuring a known alt-right symbol because it winds up lefties.

Nope I did it to annoy certain reactionaries on here who see evil racism in everything and it worked perfectly. I've previously explained in detail why the idea that it's an "alt-right symbol" is ridiculous. Feel free to go and find the post if you're interested.

[Sheaf Saint]

Nope I did it to annoy certain reactionaries

 

There's a word for that you know.

[hypochondriac]

There's a word for that you know.

All it did was bring further exposure to the hard of thinking who clutch at pearls because someone uses a cartoon picture of a frog on a sports forum. The fact that people like you keep bringing it up says more about you than it does me.

 

Anyway shall we return to the topic of the general election?

Edited 29 November, 2019 by hypochondriac

[Sheaf Saint]

So Stanley Johnson thinks that we shouldn't be allowed to publicly discuss the fact that his son is a proven liar, and in the same clip shows his utter contempt for and sense of superiority over the British Public.

 

https://twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE/status/1200360662674763776

 

The apple has fallen very close to the tree.

[shurlock]

So Stanley Johnson thinks that we shouldn't be allowed to publicly discuss the fact that his son is a proven liar, and in the same clip shows his utter contempt for and sense of superiority over the British Public.

 

https://twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE/status/1200360662674763776

 

The apple has fallen very close to the tree.

 

Just need to look at these threads and all the suckers for a posh accent. Their deference and docility is outstanding. No wonder some think they can take liberties and treat them with contempt.

Edited 29 November, 2019 by shurlock

[sadoldgit]

Says a man who previously admitted that he chose an avatar featuring a known alt-right symbol because it winds up lefties.

 

The same person posted that Jewish people have certain physical similarities. It could almost be Boris Johnson, Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins posting.

[hypochondriac]

The same person posted that Jewish people have certain physical similarities. It could almost be Boris Johnson, Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins posting.

What on earth are you dribbling about now you weirdo?

[whelk]

The same person posted that Jewish people have certain physical similarities. It could almost be Boris Johnson, Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins posting.

 

Not like you to mention those two.

Are you saying you don’t recognise Jewish features?

You can acknowledge the difference look of say a Pakistani and a Scandinavian without being racist. Or would you not like to hazard a guess?

[doddisalegend]

Not like you to mention those two.

Are you saying you don’t recognise Jewish features?

You can acknowledge the difference look of say a Pakistani and a Scandinavian without being racist. Or would you not like to hazard a guess?

 

you can clearly spot a Scandinavian a mile off

 

[hypochondriac]

Not like you to mention those two.

Are you saying you don’t recognise Jewish features?

You can acknowledge the difference look of say a Pakistani and a Scandinavian without being racist. Or would you not like to hazard a guess?

My wife is a quarter arabic. Everyone on the fathers side of her family apart from her has a distinctive nose shape that they call an Arab nose. Loads of Arab people have it. Of course its not racist to notice that. Edited 30 November, 2019 by hypochondriac

[sadoldgit]

Not like you to mention those two.

Are you saying you don’t recognise Jewish features?

You can acknowledge the difference look of say a Pakistani and a Scandinavian without being racist. Or would you not like to hazard a guess?

 

We had a class on religious differences back in the late 60’s where the teacher told us that Jews “had big noses.” He was being deadly serious. Remember we are talking about a religion here, not a race. If I was in a room of people I would have no idea what their individual religions were, would you? I assume a certain poster here would by the size of their nose.

 

By the way, my nose is probably bigger than average but guess what, I am not Jewish.

[sadoldgit]

you can clearly spot a Scandinavian a mile off

 

 

Gotta love those Ayrians. We need more blond, blue eyed people here. Vote Boris!

[shurlock]

My wife is a quarter arabic. Everyone on the fathers side of her family apart from her has a distinctive nose shape that they call an Arab nose. Loads of Arab people have it. Of course its not racist to notice that.

 

Let’s just to say it has a very particular historical and cultural baggage in the context of Judaism and it’s not pleasant. Jews certainly don’t welcome the reference and yes many see it as antisemitic.

 

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/11/14/invention-jewish-nose/

 

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/278768/the-myth-of-the-jewish-nose

Edited 30 November, 2019 by shurlock

[hypochondriac]

Let’s just to say it has a very particular historical and cultural baggage in the context of Judaism and it’s not pleasant. Jews certainly don’t welcome the reference and yes many see it as antisemitic.

 

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2014/11/14/invention-jewish-nose/

 

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/278768/the-myth-of-the-jewish-nose

So are you saying that populations with similar genetics aren't more likely to have similar facial or body characteristics? I'm not talking specifically about Jewish noses which may well be an antisemitic stereotype but surely that's undeniable?

[sadoldgit]

Can you imagine the uproar if Jeremy Corbyn talked about “Jewish noses?”

[doddisalegend]

Gotta love those Ayrians. We need more blond, blue eyed people here. Vote Boris!

 

She is Kalash and as such is a native of northern Pakistan...

[whelk]

There is a Welsh and a French looking face. Clearly not everyone who may look would necessarily be from is those countries but will see more people looking like that in those countries. Can’t fathom why people seem to want to attribute some sort of bigotry to being observant.

 

Would saying Barbara Streisand looks Jewish be not acceptable?

[sadoldgit]

There is a Welsh and a French looking face. Clearly not everyone who may look would necessarily be from is those countries but will see more people looking like that in those countries. Can’t fathom why people seem to want to attribute some sort of bigotry to being observant.

 

Would saying Barbara Streisand looks Jewish be not acceptable?

 

Because how can you look like a religion? As has already been stated, there is a “look” that has been used to denigrate Jewish people for centuries. You get that surely? I have been to France several times in the last couple of years and cannot tell a French person from any other European, but that is just a race thing anyway. Perhaps you can explain wha a Protestant or a Catholic or a Buddhist looks like?

[hypochondriac]

Because how can you look like a religion? As has already been stated, there is a “look” that has been used to denigrate Jewish people for centuries. You get that surely? I have been to France several times in the last couple of years and cannot tell a French person from any other European, but that is just a race thing anyway. Perhaps you can explain wha a Protestant or a Catholic or a Buddhist looks like?

Jewish identity is also commonly defined through ethnicity. Opinion polls have suggested that the majority of Jews see being Jewish as predominantly a matter of ancestry and culture, rather than religion.[1][2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F

[sadoldgit]

And yet there is no mention of noses?

[hypochondriac]

And yet there is no mention of noses?

If being Jewish is more to do with ancestry and culture than religion as many Jewish people believe, is it possible that many Jewish people will have more genetics in common with each other and thus share similar traits?

 

Not sure what this nonsense has to do with Boris BTW bur you seem intent on taking the conversation off on a tangent.

[whelk]

Because how can you look like a religion? As has already been stated, there is a “look” that has been used to denigrate Jewish people for centuries. You get that surely? I have been to France several times in the last couple of years and cannot tell a French person from any other European, but that is just a race thing anyway. Perhaps you can explain wha a Protestant or a Catholic or a Buddhist looks like?

 

Tbh it is not worthwhile discussing. I could have predicted your trite comeback. You have the ability to consistently miss any point.

Buddhist wear orange gowns. Does that help?

 

You’d be laughed at in a New York Jewish household saying you have no idea of any common facial features.

[benjii]

you can clearly spot a Scandinavian a mile off

 

 

Lock up yer daughters... It's Budulak time!

[aintforever]

Tbh it is not worthwhile discussing. I could have predicted your trite comeback. You have the ability to consistently miss any point.

Buddhist wear orange gowns. Does that help?

 

You’d be laughed at in a New York Jewish household saying you have no idea of any common facial features.

 

What about the black Jews from Africa?

[whelk]

What about the black Jews from Africa?

 

What about them?

[aintforever]

What about them?

 

They don’t look like the average indigenous Israeli, just look African.

[whelk]

They don’t look like the average indigenous Israeli, just look African.

 

Genius that’s me stumped then.

 

You think African’s all look the same?

[Lord Duckhunter]

Looks like you’re right. I was thinking of converting, but may struggle in the nose department.

 

I looked up how to convert.

 

 

 

 

 

“Converting to Judaism

 

Converting to Judaism is not easy. It involves many lifestyle changes and about a year of studying.

 

Becoming a Jew is not just a religious change: the convert not only accepts the Jewish faith, but becomes a member of the Jewish People and embraces Jewish culture and history.

 

Conversion and Jewish law

 

Conversion to Judaism is a process governed by Jewish religious law. Conversions are overseen by a religious court, which must be convinced that the convert:

 

is sincere

 

is converting for the right reasons

 

is converting of their own free will

has a thorough knowledge of Jewish faith and practices

 

will live an observant Jewish life

There are also two ritual requirements:

 

a male convert must undergo circumcision

 

You must have a big nose”

 

 

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[hypochondriac]

I think there are people talking at cross purposes here.

[sadoldgit]

Tbh it is not worthwhile discussing. I could have predicted your trite comeback. You have the ability to consistently miss any point.

Buddhist wear orange gowns. Does that help?

 

You’d be laughed at in a New York Jewish household saying you have no idea of any common facial features.

 

Take off their orange gowns and what do they look like? How many other religions do you know where some people identify them by physical features? If someone of the Jewish persuasion and aren’t wearing orthodox clothing and don’t have hooked noses, how do you identify them? What on earth would you find to say about them if they all had pretty little turned up noses?

[sadoldgit]

Whelk, Boris Johnson has a hooked nose, is he Jewish?

[hypochondriac]

Whelk, Boris Johnson has a hooked nose, is he Jewish?

Do you have a brain injury? Serious question.

[aintforever]

Genius that’s me stumped then.

 

You think African’s all look the same?

 

No, just wondered what their common Jewish facial features were.

[Jonnyboy]

Can you imagine the uproar if Jeremy Corbyn talked about “Jewish noses?”

 

Yep. But it's OK to say if you are a right wing troll.

[Jonnyboy]

Amazing all the real antisemitism seeping out here.

[hypochondriac]

Hilarious the lengths that Corbynites will go to in order to make allusions to antisemitism in others.

[Jonnyboy]

Hilarious the lengths that Corbynites will go to in order to make allusions to antisemitism in others.

 

A comment on a forum isn't "lengths" lol. 90% of a country's media and establishment smearing an anti-racist as a racist,that is huge lengths.

[hypochondriac]

A comment on a forum isn't "lengths" lol. 90% of a country's media and establishment smearing an anti-racist as a racist,that is huge lengths.

You realise it's only the uber lefty Jeremy fanboys who buy that narrative right?

[Jonnyboy]

You realise it's only the uber lefty Jeremy fanboys who buy that narrative right?

 

I know, those Jews and Arabs all look the same.

[Jonnyboy]

You realise it's only the uber lefty Jeremy fanboys who buy that narrative right?

 

Nah, it's classic Tory divide and rule straight out of the Cummings/Bannon playbook.

[hypochondriac]

Nah, it's classic Tory divide and rule straight out of the Cummings/Bannon playbook.

Whatever you need to tell yourself for when Labour fail to win the election.

[aintforever]

You realise it's only the uber lefty Jeremy fanboys who buy that narrative right?

 

I think most people with a brain can see he just has issues with Israel and that naturally makes him the enemy of many Jews.

[hypochondriac]

I think most people with a brain can see he just has issues with Israel and that naturally makes him the enemy of many Jews.

No need to rehash the arguments again. People have and will continue to make up their own minds based on incisive interviews like the Andrew Neil one and testimony from ex Labour Jews etc.

[aintforever]

No need to rehash the arguments again. People have and will continue to make up their own minds based on incisive interviews like the Andrew Neil one and testimony from ex Labour Jews etc.

 

... and by the garbage they read in the Sun, Mail, Telegraph etc