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2 hours ago, Millbrook Saint said:

to be fair I don't have an understanding of how they work, just like 99% of the public, but on the face of it, a committee deciding a political opponents future whilst being led by one of his opponents hardly looks unbiased, you can say they're full of tories, but half the party hate him for Brexit anyway.  No, to me and most other people called joe public who don't have a pre conceived opinion of the bloke, this looks like a stitch up, having the guardian gloat and tell us how great it is, does nothing to persuade me otherwise, are the general public supposed to just believe this was unbiased just because our intellectual superiors like you and other guardian readers tell us so?

You don’t understand how it works but you think it’s a stitch up. Brilliant!

 

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5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

If you grouped me in as an intellectual and Guardian reader then I need to disabuse you of both notions. Anyone reading here over the years will know that I am not an intellectual .

 

No way. Don't put yourself down. You're one of the brightest stupid people I've ever encountered.

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7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

 I also haven’t read The Guardian since I left the company 23 years ago.

I do however received many different newsfeeds each day in my phone from a variety of sources, one of which happens to be The Guardian.

 

 

“I experimented with marijuana but I didn’t inhale”

 

”I don’t read the guardian, but I read it’s news feed on my phone, and constantly post articles from it”. 

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2 hours ago, Millbrook Saint said:

to be fair I don't have an understanding of how they work, just like 99% of the public, but on the face of it, a committee deciding a political opponents future whilst being led by one of his opponents hardly looks unbiased, you can say they're full of tories, but half the party hate him for Brexit anyway.  No, to me and most other people called joe public who don't have a pre conceived opinion of the bloke, this looks like a stitch up, having the guardian gloat and tell us how great it is, does nothing to persuade me otherwise, are the general public supposed to just believe this was unbiased just because our intellectual superiors like you and other guardian readers tell us so?

That's probably a fairly small percentage of the population isn't it?  

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4 hours ago, Millbrook Saint said:

to me and most other people called joe public who don't have a pre conceived opinion of the bloke

Why don't you? The guy has made it his life's mission to promote himself as much as is humanly possible. He's been in the public eye over 4 decades and all the evidence points to him being a narcissistic, conniving, bulshitting, vindictive, corrupt, self-serving cunt of the highest order.

The fact there are people out there still, after everything that has transpired in recent years, that are prepared to ignore such a wealth of evidence and give him the benefit of the doubt, absolutely terrifies me.

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17 hours ago, Millbrook Saint said:

to be fair I don't have an understanding of how they work, just like 99% of the public, but on the face of it, a committee deciding a political opponents future whilst being led by one of his opponents hardly looks unbiased, you can say they're full of tories, but half the party hate him for Brexit anyway.  No, to me and most other people called joe public who don't have a pre conceived opinion of the bloke, this looks like a stitch up, having the guardian gloat and tell us how great it is, does nothing to persuade me otherwise, are the general public supposed to just believe this was unbiased just because our intellectual superiors like you and other guardian readers tell us so?

The classic 'people v the political elite' argument, and you accuse other people of using a playbook.

You only have to read Johnson's resignation letter to see why he is totally unfit to be PM. 

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"He should not be allowed to run for the party again. That is Boris’s basic problem, words are designed to make his audience believe whatever they want to believe. There is no anchor to any discernible truth or sense of integrity.

To me it is inconceivable that in these circumstances he could stand as a Conservative member of parliament again. It is up to Conservative central office to affirm an official Conservative candidate. No doubt he will now go out into the world and make huge sums of money, writing history as he thinks it was conducted. But it will have little to do with the reality of the mess he left behind.”

Lord Heseltine, part of the blob.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/10/furious-tories-boris-johnson-bias-outburst-rishi-sunak-nigel-adams-byelection?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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In his resignation letter Boris starts by saying the Committee were intent on forcing him out of Parliament, which is bollocks as it would have required a vote in the HoC to do that. He then goes on to say he has "been an MP since 2001", which is a lie as he served 2 terms as Mayor of London, and had to resign as an MP to take up that position.

And that's just the first few sentences.

 

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3 hours ago, Fan The Flames said:

"He should not be allowed to run for the party again. That is Boris’s basic problem, words are designed to make his audience believe whatever they want to believe. There is no anchor to any discernible truth or sense of integrity.

To me it is inconceivable that in these circumstances he could stand as a Conservative member of parliament again. It is up to Conservative central office to affirm an official Conservative candidate. No doubt he will now go out into the world and make huge sums of money, writing history as he thinks it was conducted. But it will have little to do with the reality of the mess he left behind.”

Lord Heseltine, part of the blob.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/10/furious-tories-boris-johnson-bias-outburst-rishi-sunak-nigel-adams-byelection?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Fucking hell, you’re not seriously trying to claim Hestletine is an unbiased source are you.

He’s got severe Brexit deranged syndrome & is the go to guy for people who dont actually vote Tory.
 

He talks about a mess, but him and Johnny Major left the Tories in a even bigger mess, decimated & facing 13 years in opposition after he helped stitch up the Great Lady. The arrogance & Europhile lies of people like him contributed to Brexit every bit as much as Boris & other Tory leavers. Talk about political failure, once he stood on his own two feet outside the great lady’s cabinet, his career was failure after failure, culminating with us leaving his treasured EU. 

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Fucking hell, you’re not seriously trying to claim Hestletine is an unbiased source are you.

He’s got severe Brexit deranged syndrome & is the go to guy for people who dont actually vote Tory.
 

He talks about a mess, but him and Johnny Major left the Tories in a even bigger mess, decimated & facing 13 years in opposition after he helped stitch up the Great Lady. The arrogance & Europhile lies of people like him contributed to Brexit every bit as much as Boris & other Tory leavers. Talk about political failure, once he stood on his own two feet outside the great lady’s cabinet, his career was failure after failure, culminating with us leaving his treasured EU. 

The great lady 😂, never been one of those in parliament 

 

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3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Fucking hell, you’re not seriously trying to claim Hestletine is an unbiased source are you.

He’s got severe Brexit deranged syndrome & is the go to guy for people who dont actually vote Tory.
 

He talks about a mess, but him and Johnny Major left the Tories in a even bigger mess, decimated & facing 13 years in opposition after he helped stitch up the Great Lady. The arrogance & Europhile lies of people like him contributed to Brexit every bit as much as Boris & other Tory leavers. Talk about political failure, once he stood on his own two feet outside the great lady’s cabinet, his career was failure after failure, culminating with us leaving his treasured EU. 

This is politics, everyone has an angle, but what he says is what a lot of people think, including loads of tory MPs. If Johnson thought for a second that he had enough support to stand up to the comittee report, he wouldn't have resigned. But the truth is his support has ebbed away from both the right and left of the party, he has nowhere to go. People don't want what he has to offer anymore, they want MPs and PMs to respect and enhance our demorcratic processes, not to demean them. Boris is over and I believe that in his heart he knows it.

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Iron Lady? She was more like a rusty hatchet faced harridan. Her standing was at a low but thanks to the Falklands conflict her approval ratings shot up and she went on to do untold damage to the country. She heralded the end of the UK’s manufacturing industries, sold of council houses without replacing the stock and ushered in future generations to believe that greed and selfishness was good. Her famous mantra, “the lady’s not for turning” doesn’t demonstrate strength, it shows her to be boneheaded, blinkered and unwilling to admit  that she may be wrong.The only things I can think to thank her for are launching the career of Ben Elton and giving as a huge laugh on Spitting Image. Proper and decent Prime Ministers work to brink people together for the betterment of society as a whole. Thatcher was divisive and as much as she still gives Duckie and the Gammons a stiffy, will always be widely hated by many. 

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44 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

When you announced you weren't very bright, you weren't joking were you?  I assume you meant 'devisive'.

If you're going to have a pop at someone for not being bright because of an un-noticed autocorrect, it usually helps if you don't then fuck up the spelling of the word yourself. Otherwise you could end up making a bit of a tit of yourself.

Just saying.

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21 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

When you announced you weren't very bright, you weren't joking were you?  I assume you meant 'devisive'.

I didn’t say that I wasn’t very bright, I said I was not an intellectual. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will know the difference between the two. Given that you say I am the brightest stupid person on here I thank you for your self awareness as you then clearly understand that you are much more stupid than I am.

Thank you for pointing out the error, I shall correct it now. 😘

Back to Johnson. It has been very entertaining watching the latest Tory psychodrama and sitting back whilst the different factions tear each other to bits. The right wing media are tying themselves in knots too, the front page of the Mail today even signed up for Braverman’s smoke screen deflection against Starmer when the clear major story is the cat fight between Sunak and Johnson.

Johnson’s resignation letter was pure Trump; lies, bullshit, deflection and playing the victim. It was some strange alignments of the planets that these two pathetic charlatans should appear on the world stage at the same time (we can probably throw Putin into this mix too).

Joining them on the stage unsurprisingly, none other than serial opportunity grabber, Nigel Farage, pitching for an unholy alliance with the Greased Piglet. 😂

If it wasn’t doing so much damage to the standing of this country I would be happy to see this play out until next year, but it is so bad now that we really need a General Election sooner rather than later.

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23 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I didn’t say that I wasn’t very bright, I said I was not an intellectual. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will know the difference between the two. Given that you say I am the brightest stupid person on here I thank you for your self awareness as you then clearly understand that you are much more stupid than I am.

Thank you for pointing out the error, I shall correct it now.😘

Not very bright directly quoting someone you continuously insist you have on ignore 😉

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So Johnson has only just submitted his resignation letter, probably spent the morning trying to see if there was enough support to not resign. He is now the Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds or something, a job with no pay and no obligations, even he can't fuck this one up, can he?

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1 hour ago, Fan The Flames said:

So Johnson has only just submitted his resignation letter, probably spent the morning trying to see if there was enough support to not resign. He is now the Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds or something, a job with no pay and no obligations, even he can't fuck this one up, can he?

That’s just an administrative tool used  as you can’t technically resign as an MP, some silly old rule and procedure.

 

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More respect for Sunak speaking out against Johnson. Why is that bald cunt Berry getting interviewed by everyone? Stop giving these people airtime FFS it isn’t balanced reporting just encourages the halfwits

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It is a shame that he didn’t have the backbone to strike off the whole dishonourable honours list.

Michael Howard was on the radio earlier calling Johnson a liar. No shit Sherlock. Johnson’s latest antics are doing him no favours and more and more of his colleagues are distancing themselves from him. At this rate his only buddy might end up being Farage.

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2 hours ago, whelk said:

Who buys this guff?

 

Their readers unfortunately…and Duckie.

They will still turn out in their hundreds of thousands to vote for them at the next election, sadly.

Maybe it is time to have some kind of psychiatric test before you can stand for Parliament that excludes the narcissists, deluded fantasists, the terminally thick and bullies? 

It would be great if these people could be excluded from voting too 😉

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21 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Their readers unfortunately…and Duckie.

They will still turn out in their hundreds of thousands to vote for them at the next election, sadly.

Maybe it is time to have some kind of psychiatric test before you can stand for Parliament that excludes the narcissists, deluded fantasists, the terminally thick and bullies

It would be great if these people could be excluded from voting too 😉

Be careful what you wish for, you'd be fucked on all counts.

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2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Nope, wrong yet again.

I have voted against Tories more time than I’ve voted for them in 12 GE’s & countless local elections. 
 


 

 

Not really having a go so hopefully you don't take it that way but aren't you supposed to be in your 50's?  If you've voted in 12 GEs then the youngest that makes you is 67.


Also, if you've voted against the Tories more times than not then it begs the question who you have voted for - obviously UKIP in it's various incarnations will take up some of those but I reckon you're a closet Lib Dem for the others.  It makes sense as the initials match up.

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16 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Not really having a go so hopefully you don't take it that way but aren't you supposed to be in your 50's?  If you've voted in 12 GEs then the youngest that makes you is 67.


Also, if you've voted against the Tories more times than not then it begs the question who you have voted for - obviously UKIP in it's various incarnations will take up some of those but I reckon you're a closet Lib Dem for the others.  It makes sense as the initials match up.

Guess old duck is being a bit sparing with the truth.... he is with out doubt a tory through and through

and still gets aroused about Thatcher so he must be knocking on a bit 

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3 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Not really having a go so hopefully you don't take it that way but aren't you supposed to be in your 50's?  If you've voted in 12 GEs then the youngest that makes you is 67.


Also, if you've voted against the Tories more times than not then it begs the question who you have voted for - obviously UKIP in it's various incarnations will take up some of those but I reckon you're a closet Lib Dem for the others.  It makes sense as the initials match up.

I make it 10, sorry, 12 was off the top of my head.

 

I think it’s 

83’ the great lady

87 the great lady

92 an independent 

97 referendum 

2001 William Hague

2005 UKIP

2010 UKIP 

2015 UKIP

2017 did not vote

2019 Boris 

 

I may have muddled a couple up, a lot of tanglefoot has flowed down the river in those years 

 

That’s hardly Tory through and through and I wouldn’t have voted for Boris without Bercow & those other clowns fucking around.

As for the council, I mistakenly voted Lib Dems a couple of times, but they’re fucking corrupt like the rest of them down here. Poole People get my vote now, the major parties sold the town down the river to save Bournemouth from going bankrupt. 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I make it 10, sorry, 12 was off the top of my head.

 

I think it’s 

83’ the great lady

87 the great lady

92 an independent 

97 referendum 

2001 William Hague

2005 UKIP

2010 UKIP 

2015 UKIP

2017 did not vote

2019 Boris 

 

I may have muddled a couple up, a lot of tanglefoot has flowed down the river in those years 

 

That’s hardly Tory through and through and I wouldn’t have voted for Boris without Bercow & those other clowns fucking around.

As for the council, I mistakenly voted Lib Dems a couple of times, but they’re fucking corrupt like the rest of them down here. Poole People get my vote now, the major parties sold the town down the river to save Bournemouth from going bankrupt. 

You forgot 79, 74, 74. 70, 66, 64.

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12 hours ago, Fan The Flames said:

You forgot 79, 74, 74. 70, 66, 64.

When I first started reading Duckie’s posts I assumed that he was older than me. He used an avatar of Leon Russell, used the language of someone born in the mid 1940’s and liked the music that people slightly older than me liked. I was born in the mid 1950’s and it came as something of a shock to find out that I was actually several years older than him!

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

When I first started reading Duckie’s posts I assumed that he was older than me. He used an avatar of Leon Russell, used the language of someone born in the mid 1940’s and liked the music that people slightly older than me liked. I was born in the mid 1950’s and it came as something of a shock to find out that I was actually several years older than him!

Typical Soggy, likes to stereotype everyone. Not white, must be an immigrant. Enjoy Leon, must be born in the 50’s.  Open your eyes man, don’t label everyone by colour, age, sexuality, & religion. It’s 2023 FFS. 

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Typical Soggy, likes to stereotype everyone. Not white, must be an immigrant. Enjoy Leon, must be born in the 50’s.  Open your eyes man, don’t label everyone by colour, age, sexuality, & religion. It’s 2023 FFS. 

You sound more like the people you constantly vote for everyday Duckie. Go back and read what I actually posted and engage your brain. If you can actually read you will see my conclusion that you were older than I was based on a number of things, not just Leon Russell. You are right about one thing, if someone fits the stereotype of being thick, I stereotype them as being thick. 😎

Oh and I said that I thought that you sounded like you were born in the 1940’s, not the 1950’s!!

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Apart from the findings of his peers, his own reactions to their findings have also damned him. Going full Trump has just reinforced everything about the man that is flawed. If there is any justice in this world his career in politics is now over. He will never be short of a few bob and his increased notoriety will add a few quid to his after dinner speaking income, but it is time to f**k off now and leave politics to the grown ups. He can take Nigel Farage with him.

I’m looking forward to see how the Mail, Express, Telegraph and GB News try and spin this.

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