buctootim Posted 23 January, 2022 Posted 23 January, 2022 On 23/01/2022 at 13:24, moonraker said: What people had 40 years ago is as irrelevant as what they had 100 years ago. Expectations are not bad, entitlement now there is a different problem so gloriously evidenced by our current leadership. I do agree that people must take responsibility for themselves and in the main I believe they do, you said people are "stacked with debt" also true to a point, 91% of this is property debt, and the ridiculous cost of housing drives this, expecting to have a house is hardly irresponsible. Without expectations and satisfying those expectations through credit and peoples willingness to use it the economy would be in a far worse state, it is expectation that drives a market economy and the more market driven a governments policies are the greater the level of expectation. Expand Exactly. Housing consumes such a large percentage of many peoples incomes, over 50% in some cases, that everything else is a struggle. And its easily avoidable. Building houses isnt even that expensive. You can build a good 120 square metre 3 bed house for £150-200k. Its only land specualtion which makes houses stupidly, unaffordably expensive 2
badgerx16 Posted 24 January, 2022 Posted 24 January, 2022 "Up to 30 people are said to have attended the event in the Cabinet Room after Boris Johnson returned from an official visit to a school in Hertfordshire. ITV News understands that the interior designer, Lulu Lytle - who was not a member of No 10 staff - also attended the gathering. At the time Ms Lytle was renovating Boris Johnson’s flat in Downing Street, which has been the subject of a separate controversy. Nine days before the alleged birthday bash at No 10, on 10 June, Mr Johnson asked the public "to continue to show restraint and respect the rules which are designed to keep us all safe" during a Downing Street Covid press conference" https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/boris-johnson-had-birthday-bash-during-lockdown-itv-news-understands
badgerx16 Posted 24 January, 2022 Posted 24 January, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 19:04, CB Fry said: Drip, drip, drip, drip. Expand Dom says more will continue to get leaked until Boris has gone.
CB Fry Posted 24 January, 2022 Author Posted 24 January, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 19:09, badgerx16 said: Dom says more will continue to get leaked until Boris has gone. Expand Absolutely no doubt there are photos if required.
buctootim Posted 24 January, 2022 Posted 24 January, 2022 (edited) Apparently he didn't know it was his birthday. It's his staffer's fault. Edited 24 January, 2022 by buctootim 1 3
buctootim Posted 24 January, 2022 Posted 24 January, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 19:09, badgerx16 said: Dom says more will continue to get leaked until Boris has gone. Expand Lets hope he doesn't go yet. I want to see ALL the dirt.
moonraker Posted 24 January, 2022 Posted 24 January, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 19:22, buctootim said: Apparently he didn't know it was his birthday. It's his staffer's fault. Expand That no surprise , he rarely knows what day of the week it is. Listening to a debate on the radio about the parties and there are still some hard nosed Tories who claim it is just "Boris Bashing". So, as many of us have always known, the party of Law and Order is not quite so hot on Law and Order when its one of their own. 5
rallyboy Posted 24 January, 2022 Posted 24 January, 2022 By May 2020 the loneliness of lockdown became too much for my Mum and her mental health suffered so badly as a result of the isolation that she had to leave the family home after six decades. Later that summer I was nominated as her one visitor who could wish her a happy birthday through the care home window. Boris Johnson is an appalling excuse for a human being and any sucker who supports him now is as much of a c**t as he is. He needs to resign tonight. But he's a f**king coward, up to his fat waist in corruption and racism, so he probably won't. 15
badgerx16 Posted 24 January, 2022 Posted 24 January, 2022 (edited) On 24/01/2022 at 22:42, rallyboy said: By May 2020 the loneliness of lockdown became too much for my Mum and her mental health suffered so badly as a result of the isolation that she had to leave the family home after six decades. Later that summer I was nominated as her one visitor who could wish her a happy birthday through the care home window. Boris Johnson is an appalling excuse for a human being and any sucker who supports him now is as much of a c**t as he is. He needs to resign tonight. But he's a f**king coward, up to his fat waist in corruption and racism, so he probably won't. Expand Anybody who thinks the clown should not go should read this and re-consider their humanity. Edited 24 January, 2022 by badgerx16 6
Tamesaint Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 22:42, rallyboy said: By May 2020 the loneliness of lockdown became too much for my Mum and her mental health suffered so badly as a result of the isolation that she had to leave the family home after six decades. Later that summer I was nominated as her one visitor who could wish her a happy birthday through the care home window. Boris Johnson is an appalling excuse for a human being and any sucker who supports him now is as much of a c**t as he is. He needs to resign tonight. But he's a f**king coward, up to his fat waist in corruption and racism, so he probably won't. Expand That sounds awful. I can understand your anger. 1
Warriorsaint Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 22:42, rallyboy said: By May 2020 the loneliness of lockdown became too much for my Mum and her mental health suffered so badly as a result of the isolation that she had to leave the family home after six decades. Later that summer I was nominated as her one visitor who could wish her a happy birthday through the care home window. Boris Johnson is an appalling excuse for a human being and any sucker who supports him now is as much of a c**t as he is. He needs to resign tonight. But he's a f**king coward, up to his fat waist in corruption and racism, so he probably won't. Expand Apologies for my flippancy. It is easy to forget the all too real consequences of lockdown. It makes the grubby soap opera all the more gruesome. This govt has no honour and anyone who now defends them is not worth engaging with anymore. 3
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 (edited) On 24/01/2022 at 22:42, rallyboy said: Boris Johnson is an appalling excuse for a human being. Expand This. Quite how it has taken so many people this long to recognise that is beyond me*, because the evidence for it has been there for all to see ever since he first set foot into the public eye. He is, and always has been, a corrupt, entitled charlatan with no discernible talent for anything other than self promotion. It's tragic how many people were insisting in 2019 that Corbyn was "unelectable" and then went and voted for this shameless, incompetent prick instead. For all Corbyn's faults, of which he had/has many, at least he has a moral compass. Johnson has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. None. The last few years have been a very dark chapter in UK politics, and whichever side of the spectrum we sit on, we owe it to ourselves and our future generations to try and somehow work collaboratively to consign it to history and move on. * That's not aimed at you BTW Rallyboy. I'm very sorry for the hardship your family had to endure and it must boil your piss to see now that the man setting those rules was blatantly ignoring them himself. Edited 25 January, 2022 by Sheaf Saint 7
aintforever Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 (edited) These parties must really stick in the throat of the Conservative’s core support. Most Tories I am friends with are real sticklers for law and order. For all their faults, their main admirable attribute tends to be their strong sense of right and wrong. During lockdown all I heard from them was moaning about youngsters breaking the rules, blaming students for having parties, then blaming Asians for not getting vaccinated. All that time the real rule-breaking scumbags turned out to be the Conservatives in charge of the country who think they are too important to need to follow the rules laid out for us normal people. It’s mental that the fat bullshitter is still there, the shameless way he is clinging on to his position really shows how little he cares for either the Conservative party or the country. Edited 25 January, 2022 by aintforever 6
igsey Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 On 24/01/2022 at 22:42, rallyboy said: By May 2020 the loneliness of lockdown became too much for my Mum and her mental health suffered so badly as a result of the isolation that she had to leave the family home after six decades. Later that summer I was nominated as her one visitor who could wish her a happy birthday through the care home window. Boris Johnson is an appalling excuse for a human being and any sucker who supports him now is as much of a c**t as he is. He needs to resign tonight. But he's a f**king coward, up to his fat waist in corruption and racism, so he probably won't. Expand He's never going to resign. He is in politics for his own personal gain and nothing else, and I'm sure he's made many millions off of it and will make even more millions once he's out. Resigning would mean admitting he's done something wrong, and I honestly think he believes he's done nothing wrong. He doesn't understand why rules should apply to him. He will have to be forced out and I don't think the Tories have the spine to do so at the moment. 3
badgerx16 Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 Finally the Met have decided that an investigation into the activities at No 10 is warranted. 2
rallyboy Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 Presumably the investigation will be headed up by a senior officer - perhaps Sajid Javid's brother will be the one selected to decide whether his brother's friends have any charges to face? Either way, the junior staff at no.10 might as well pack their bags now as you can be sure they were to blame for everything. 1 1
sadoldgit Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 15:24, rallyboy said: Presumably the investigation will be headed up by a senior officer - perhaps Sajid Javid's brother will be the one selected to decide whether his brother's friends have any charges to face? Either way, the junior staff at no.10 might as well pack their bags now as you can be sure they were to blame for everything. Expand Sorry to read about your mother in that earlier post RB. It must be especially sickening for you and all those who have suffered under the lock down. My situation isn’t so bad but I haven’t seen my 3 kids for 2 years. Maybe soon. Anyway, I am sure about a week or so ago when this all kicked off he said he would take full responsibility if there was any wrong doing. Apparently no 10 are now saying that Johnson believes that HE didn’t break any rules. Rules were clearly broken both in his residence and in Whitehall. He is the PM and as such, these people’s boss. The buck stops with him 100%. Why did he not put a stop to it? It happened on his watch. It is his responsibility, but just just watch as he throws others under the bus to save his own flabby arse. The process has already started. 3
Warriorsaint Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 See the coverup is now in play. No Sue Gray report now and the met will kick it down the road for months. Hard not to be cynical eh? 2 1
wadesmith Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 (edited) ‘Ambushed With A Cake’. Seriously I don’t see the problem people have with Boris. Edited 25 January, 2022 by wadesmith 1
Verbal Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 There are photos apparently of Johnson being successfully rounded up by the cake, along with a glass of wine that had tricked its way into his hand. 1
wadesmith Posted 25 January, 2022 Posted 25 January, 2022 In Boris’s defence, lockdown was a tough time for everyone. Even the cake was in tiers. 1 2
igsey Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 I guess when you don't want to answer a tricky question the correct response now is to call the questioner fat?
badgerx16 Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) Liar, liar, pants on fire: Bojo has stated that it was 'complete nonsense' when people said he had intervened to permit the evacuation of the NOWZAD charity's animals. Written evidence submitted to a Parliamentary committee includes the following email between Foreign Office officials; Hi [name redacted], We spoke – thank you for your time. [animal charity – name redacted] are a [details redacted] animal charity operating in Kabul and seeking to evacuation their [details redacted] members of staff (no animals). Equivalent charity Nowzad, run by an ex-Royal Marine, has received a lot of publicity and the PM has just authorised their staff and animals to be evacuated, [animal charity – name redacted] are hoping to be treated in the same capacity (granted LOTR). The [animal charity – name redacted] staff can all be guaranteed employment in the UK by [details redacted]. Edited 26 January, 2022 by badgerx16 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 09:19, Sheaf Saint said: For all Corbyn's faults, of which he had/has many, at least he had a moral compass Expand 2
badgerx16 Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 14:32, Lord Duckhunter said: Expand Corbyn laying a wreath at a memorial to the victims of an Israeli airstrike in 1985. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 14:38, badgerx16 said: Corbyn laying a wreath at a memorial to the victims of an Israeli airstrike in 1985. Expand No, he must have been honouring the Black September terrorists because the Daily Mail said so 🙄 Just ignore the fact that the sole reason he was even in Tunis, alongside a Tory peer, was to attend an annual conference dedicated to the victims of the 1985 airstrike. That's just coincidence. 3
sadoldgit Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) On 26/01/2022 at 14:32, Lord Duckhunter said: Expand Little surprise that you voted for Johnson Duckie. You two are clearly cut from the same cloth. For someone who continued to slag off Butch Wilkins after he passed away for drink driving, your constant support for a congenital liar and your Daily Mail attempts to smear a man who at least has a backbone and a moral compass do you no credit. What happened to your own moral compass? Or is it a case of the further right your politics, the more you turn a blind eye to those you voted in? Edited 26 January, 2022 by sadoldgit Addition 2
rallyboy Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 A new day, a new lie, I'm staggered. All of the Afghan civilians who risked their lives to help our military? f**k em and the promises we made! Get those manky dogs out instead, Carrie insists, then lie about it. He has taken the Great out of Great Britain and left us looking like a heartless, blatantly corrupt, hateful, and dishonest little island. I want my country back - the respected one that taught the world fair play, justice and tolerance, they f**king listened when we spoke - now we just madly claim to be best in every field of human endeavour while other countries laugh at us. Change needs to come....asap. 5
Turkish Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 14:55, Sheaf Saint said: No, he must have been honouring the Black September terrorists because the Daily Mail said so 🙄 Just ignore the fact that the sole reason he was even in Tunis, alongside a Tory peer, was to attend an annual conference dedicated to the victims of the 1985 airstrike. That's just coincidence. Expand Hammas are his friends, Martin McGuiness was a great family man, (must have heard that when he invited two IRA terrorists for tea after Brighton) Guess it must all be a the Daily Mail saying so though. 🙄 1
badgerx16 Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) On 26/01/2022 at 16:01, Turkish said: Hammas are his friends, Martin McGuiness was a great family man, (must have heard that when he invited two IRA terrorists for tea after Brighton) Guess it must all be a the Daily Mail saying so though. 🙄 Expand And Israel aren't illegally occupying territory in defiance of multiple UN resolutions ? As for talking to HAMAS and McGuiness, the UK Government talked to McGuiness and then allowed him to hold a senior ministerial post in the NI Assembly. Also, look up how many of the Presidents and Prime Ministers of Israel during it's first 30 years of existence, were convicted or suspected terrorists under the UK Mandate in Palestine. Sooner or later you solve conflict by dialogue. Edited 26 January, 2022 by badgerx16 3
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) On 26/01/2022 at 15:37, sadoldgit said: your Daily Mail attempts to smear a man who at least has a backbone and a moral compass do you no credit. Expand 😂 He’s an anti Semitic, terrorist loving half wit. He’s even been chucked out of the Parliamentry party he’s so beyond the pale. No surprise you think he’s got a “moral compass”, says a lot about you. The reason Boris got an 80 seat majority wasn’t down to his probity and standards of behaviour, it was because the alternative was Steptoe. The voters knew exactly who and what Boris was, the problem for you was they also knew exactly who and what Corbyn was. Edited 26 January, 2022 by Lord Duckhunter 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) On 26/01/2022 at 15:37, sadoldgit said: Little surprise that you voted for Johnson Duckie. You two are clearly cut from the same cloth. Expand His politics are nearer yours than mine. He’s a soppy pinko , bit like you really. You’re right for once, there is “little surprise” how I voted, anyone who wanted Brexit had no other choice. Edited 26 January, 2022 by Lord Duckhunter
whelk Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 Johnson: "We have the fastest growing economy in the G7." Latest GDP growth figures: 🇫🇷 3% 🇮🇹 2.6%🇩🇪 1.7%🇨🇦 1.3%🇬🇧 1.1%
aintforever Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) Corbyn isn’t anti-Semitic or a terrorist lover, he is just anti-Israel and agrees with the idea of a united Ireland. Two unpopular views that made him an easy target. Whilst totally unsuitable to be party leader he’s got more moral compass than all the scumbags at no10 put together. Edited 26 January, 2022 by aintforever 3
Turkish Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 19:22, aintforever said: Corbyn isn’t anti-Semitic or a terrorist lover, he is just anti-Israel and agrees with the idea of a united Ireland. Two unpopular views that made him an easy target. Whilst totally unsuitable to be party leader he’s got more moral compass than all the scumbags at no10 put together. Expand Wonder what he’d do if he heard someone being openly racist in his presence…..
Matthew Le God Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 "We shall fight on the beaches" - Churchill "The lady's not for turning" - Thatcher "I was ambushed by a cake!" - Johnson 1 3
sadoldgit Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 19:02, Lord Duckhunter said: His politics are nearer yours than mine. He’s a soppy pinko , bit like you really. You’re right for once, there is “little surprise” how I voted, anyone who wanted Brexit had no other choice. Expand He doesn’t have any politics. He just does what he needs to to get what he wants. But then that is a Tory philosophy for you. Look after no 1 and screw everybody else. 3
badgerx16 Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 19:21, whelk said: Johnson: "We have the fastest growing economy in the G7." Latest GDP growth figures: 🇫🇷 3% 🇮🇹 2.6%🇩🇪 1.7%🇨🇦 1.3%🇬🇧 1.1% Expand Boris wouldnb't recognise the truth if it jumped up and hit him squarely between the eyes.
badgerx16 Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 20:29, sadoldgit said: He doesn’t have any politics. He just does what he needs to to get what he wants. But then that is a Tory philosophy for you. Look after no 1 and screw everybody else. Expand Well, he has certainly tried to acheive that one, given the number of marriages, mistresses, and sprogs he has accumulated. 3
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) On 26/01/2022 at 19:39, Turkish said: Wonder what he’d do if he heard someone being openly racist in his presence….. Expand Why’s he not got the Labour whip, surely a man with backbone & a moral compass is needed . This is what the Jewish leadership council think. Of course Jews are at the bottom of the victim table, so don’t really count. When Jews complain about an obviously antisemitic mural in Tower Hamlets, Corbyn of course supports the artist. Hizbollah commits terrorist atrocities against Jews, but Corbyn calls them his friends and attends pro-Hizbollah rallies in London. Exactly the same goes for Hamas. Raed Salah says Jews kill Christian children to drink their blood. Corbyn opposes his extradition and invites him for tea at the House of Commons. These are not the only cases. He is repeatedly found alongside people with blatantly antisemitic views, but claims never to hear or read them.Again and again, Jeremy Corbyn has sided with antisemites rather than Jews. Edited 26 January, 2022 by Lord Duckhunter
Sheaf Saint Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 It's 2022, and Tory supporters are still using the tactic of deflecting criticism of the bloviating sack of shit Johnson with allegations of antisemitism against Jeremy Corbyn. Why am I not surprised. 3
Turkish Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 (edited) On 26/01/2022 at 21:06, Sheaf Saint said: It's 2022, and Tory supporters are still using the tactic of deflecting criticism of the bloviating sack of shit Johnson with allegations of antisemitism against Jeremy Corbyn. Why am I not surprised. Expand No one is deflecting criticism of the bloated berk. Simply pointing out your hero isn’t exactly beyond reproach Edited 26 January, 2022 by Turkish
aintforever Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 20:40, Lord Duckhunter said: Why’s he not got the Labour whip, surely a man with backbone & a moral compass is needed . This is what the Jewish leadership council think. Of course Jews are at the bottom of the victim table, so don’t really count. When Jews complain about an obviously antisemitic mural in Tower Hamlets, Corbyn of course supports the artist. Hizbollah commits terrorist atrocities against Jews, but Corbyn calls them his friends and attends pro-Hizbollah rallies in London. Exactly the same goes for Hamas. Raed Salah says Jews kill Christian children to drink their blood. Corbyn opposes his extradition and invites him for tea at the House of Commons. These are not the only cases. He is repeatedly found alongside people with blatantly antisemitic views, but claims never to hear or read them.Again and again, Jeremy Corbyn has sided with antisemites rather than Jews. Expand Bring friends with an anti-Semite doesn’t make you one. Just means you have poor judgment.
badgerx16 Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 Palestinian Arabs are a semitic people, so Israel's policies against them are anti-semitic. 1
moonraker Posted 26 January, 2022 Posted 26 January, 2022 Not much about Tory Islamophobia I note. The current Tory party, their media friends and their sheep like members are pathetic, keep Bozo in power and we can all watch and enjoy the death of a 1000 cuts for this disreputable excuse for a political party. 1
Turkish Posted 27 January, 2022 Posted 27 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 21:20, aintforever said: Bring friends with an anti-Semite doesn’t make you one. Just means you have poor judgment. Expand Get off the fence aintclever, either side will do!!
buctootim Posted 27 January, 2022 Posted 27 January, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 18:59, badgerx16 said: Talking of 'Moral Compasses' Expand An those were the days. Before wokeism and it was fine to sing “Hang Nelson Mandela” at Tory conferences
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