Wes Tender Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh?
Wes Tender Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh?
corky morris Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 MOTD after Saints beat Blackburn. Paul Sturrock has my full backing & is going nowhere - Rupert Lowe. He has a track record for this type of behaviour. The man has absolutely no integrity whatsoever. Never has had.
corky morris Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 MOTD after Saints beat Blackburn. Paul Sturrock has my full backing & is going nowhere - Rupert Lowe. He has a track record for this type of behaviour. The man has absolutely no integrity whatsoever. Never has had.
Wes Tender Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Just a thought, but maybe Hockaday is on gardening leave as he's fallen out with JP, then when JP is sacked he'll waltz back in as boss or in tandem with Boothroyd? You wrote this as I was simultaneously writing my piece. So we both had similar thoughts. Could there be anything in it?
Wes Tender Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Just a thought, but maybe Hockaday is on gardening leave as he's fallen out with JP, then when JP is sacked he'll waltz back in as boss or in tandem with Boothroyd? You wrote this as I was simultaneously writing my piece. So we both had similar thoughts. Could there be anything in it?
Marsdinho Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 It does sound to me as if JP may have lost the dressing room. For RL to say "AS OF NOW Jan has my full support" to me says that could well change after this morning. What happens is anyone's guess but it seems like things are getting worse before they'll get better......maybe a lot worse Life at SFC is becoming a Soap Opera..... It has been for a long long time....
Marsdinho Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 It does sound to me as if JP may have lost the dressing room. For RL to say "AS OF NOW Jan has my full support" to me says that could well change after this morning. What happens is anyone's guess but it seems like things are getting worse before they'll get better......maybe a lot worse Life at SFC is becoming a Soap Opera..... It has been for a long long time....
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Lowe might also ponder on why club ambassador Armstrong was chucked out of the Channon suite -while he was holidaying away. His tenure is causing so much ill-will among those stalwarts the club needs most in this our hour of need. But he will probably respond that Armstrong was out of order, not the club. ******. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4059685.Armstrong_furious_at_Channon_Suite_ejection/
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Lowe might also ponder on why club ambassador Armstrong was chucked out of the Channon suite -while he was holidaying away. His tenure is causing so much ill-will among those stalwarts the club needs most in this our hour of need. But he will probably respond that Armstrong was out of order, not the club. ******. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4059685.Armstrong_furious_at_Channon_Suite_ejection/
alpine_saint Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? A real pity Lowe hasnt put the same level of energy and cunning into rescuing the f**king club as he has rescuing himself..
alpine_saint Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? A real pity Lowe hasnt put the same level of energy and cunning into rescuing the f**king club as he has rescuing himself..
Pilchards Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I look at it as JP is a gonna. Now I know Lowe is a **** and I would love him to leave the club for good but it's not going to happen today. So today will be about a search for a new man just to get us out of this pathetic mess we are in. If anyone wants to buy this club then it would be best to leave it to the end of the season.
Pilchards Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I look at it as JP is a gonna. Now I know Lowe is a **** and I would love him to leave the club for good but it's not going to happen today. So today will be about a search for a new man just to get us out of this pathetic mess we are in. If anyone wants to buy this club then it would be best to leave it to the end of the season.
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns?
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns?
Wade Garrett Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? Not brilliant, just dishonest, devious and underhand. Words synonomous with Rupert, so you might be on the right lines.
Wade Garrett Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? Not brilliant, just dishonest, devious and underhand. Words synonomous with Rupert, so you might be on the right lines.
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? An interesting scenario. Except even Lowe must know that he cannot distance himself from his well documented experiment of thrusting inexperienced (even if talented) Academy players too soon into fist team football. He (together with Wilde's wimpish connivance) is the architect and instigator of the scheme.
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I'm amazed that nobody has sussed the real situation. The bust-up with Hockaday has been stage managed to save Lowe. Let me explain the psychology of it. Lowe knows damned well that his bizarre experiment with JP has been a dismal failure, as many of the more savvy people predicted it would be. But being Lowe, it is not easy to admit that he has ever been wrong. So he hatches this plan with Hockaday, realising that since he arrived he has demonstrated some ability and more importantly was cheap into the bargain. Hockaday had gone to bend Lowe's ear about the appalling lack of ideas shown by JP and Lowe had tried to toady up to him and buy his soul by promising him JPs job if he was a good boy. Thus the makings of this scheme began to take form in Lowe's mind. Hockaday was to go along with this scheme that they had had a bust-up and that he was on gardening leave. Lowe would then sack JP and there would be an increasing body of support for Hockaday amongst the fans because seemingly he had the balls to face up to Lowe. Lowe will then leak the story to his chums in the Daily Mail about the circumstances of the bust-up, stating that Hockaday had insisted that the mad experiment should cease immediately and that we should use more experienced players and a 4-4-2 formation, thus increasing support for him amongst the fans. Lowe will then interview candidates to replace JP and his cronies on the board and the hapless Wilde will push Hockaday as the fans' favourite dark horse, he also being the only candidate we can afford. Lowe will reluctantly agree, showing false humility to soften his image, most having believed that humility was something that he was incapable of. Then Lowe is in a win/win situation; if Hockaday succeeds, he can hold his hands up and admit he was wrong, secretly and knowing smugly that he had engineered the whole thing himself. If it all go tits up a la JP, he can distance himself from the whole thing, totally blameless, stating that had we persevered with JP, things would have begun to turn around had he been given a little longer. Machiavellian in its brilliance, eh? An interesting scenario. Except even Lowe must know that he cannot distance himself from his well documented experiment of thrusting inexperienced (even if talented) Academy players too soon into fist team football. He (together with Wilde's wimpish connivance) is the architect and instigator of the scheme.
Bucks Saint Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Lowe might also ponder on why club ambassador Armstrong was chucked out of the Channon suite -while he was holidaying away. His tenure is causing so much ill-will among those stalwarts the club needs most in this our hour of need. But he will probably respond that Armstrong was out of order, not the club. ******. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4059685.Armstrong_furious_at_Channon_Suite_ejection/ There have been many low points lately (no pun intended). This is yet another. The official response is a disgrace
Bucks Saint Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Lowe might also ponder on why club ambassador Armstrong was chucked out of the Channon suite -while he was holidaying away. His tenure is causing so much ill-will among those stalwarts the club needs most in this our hour of need. But he will probably respond that Armstrong was out of order, not the club. ******. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4059685.Armstrong_furious_at_Channon_Suite_ejection/ There have been many low points lately (no pun intended). This is yet another. The official response is a disgrace
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I look at it as JP is a gonna. Now I know Lowe is a **** and I would love him to leave the club for good but it's not going to happen today. So today will be about a search for a new man just to get us out of this pathetic mess we are in. If anyone wants to buy this club then it would be best to leave it to the end of the season. Yup hes had the dreaded 'has my full support' statemnet of impeding sacking....
Frank's cousin Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I look at it as JP is a gonna. Now I know Lowe is a **** and I would love him to leave the club for good but it's not going to happen today. So today will be about a search for a new man just to get us out of this pathetic mess we are in. If anyone wants to buy this club then it would be best to leave it to the end of the season. Yup hes had the dreaded 'has my full support' statemnet of impeding sacking....
Wade Garrett Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I look at it as JP is a gonna. Now I know Lowe is a **** and I would love him to leave the club for good but it's not going to happen today. So today will be about a search for a new man just to get us out of this pathetic mess we are in. If anyone wants to buy this club then it would be best to leave it to the end of the season. Absolutely. What the club really needs at this moment in time is a divisive PLC chairman who along with the jellyfish are dragging the club to new depths on a daily basis. Brilliant.
Wade Garrett Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 I look at it as JP is a gonna. Now I know Lowe is a **** and I would love him to leave the club for good but it's not going to happen today. So today will be about a search for a new man just to get us out of this pathetic mess we are in. If anyone wants to buy this club then it would be best to leave it to the end of the season. Absolutely. What the club really needs at this moment in time is a divisive PLC chairman who along with the jellyfish are dragging the club to new depths on a daily basis. Brilliant.
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns? I would happily take this, in the circumstances.
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns? I would happily take this, in the circumstances.
DT Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 If he was going to sack JP, why would he need a 'crisis meeting'? In my view he should have sacked him after the Forest game, when we should have appointed (as I have said for around a year now) Billy Davies. But he has a personality of his own. Best case is he sacks JP and brings in someone like Dowie or Adams (convinced Boothroyd will be off to Norwich) but he'll probably just say to Wotte - 'here you are - you have a go'. Then more of the same and we're down. Or maybe the crisis is to announce that we're going into admin...
DT Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 If he was going to sack JP, why would he need a 'crisis meeting'? In my view he should have sacked him after the Forest game, when we should have appointed (as I have said for around a year now) Billy Davies. But he has a personality of his own. Best case is he sacks JP and brings in someone like Dowie or Adams (convinced Boothroyd will be off to Norwich) but he'll probably just say to Wotte - 'here you are - you have a go'. Then more of the same and we're down. Or maybe the crisis is to announce that we're going into admin...
Thedelldays Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 This is Lowe's chance to say- JP was sacked as Mr. Wilde, as SFC Chairman, had lost faith in the manager (Blame MW) as SLH Chairman he still had my support. (Lowe not admitting he was wrong) Wait and see i could not care as long as Jan is gone and a sensible replacement is brought in who says what right now is of little importance to me
Thedelldays Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 This is Lowe's chance to say- JP was sacked as Mr. Wilde, as SFC Chairman, had lost faith in the manager (Blame MW) as SLH Chairman he still had my support. (Lowe not admitting he was wrong) Wait and see i could not care as long as Jan is gone and a sensible replacement is brought in who says what right now is of little importance to me
Wes Tender Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns? About as devious as Lowe coming back with Wilde's help, getting shot of Pearson on false grounds that he was too expensive and appointing JP and Wotte, a plan that he had in mind implementing way before Burley's appointment? No, your version has one fatal error. Hockaday would have to be paid off and Dowie's wages would be too steep at the moment. The way I outlined, is cheaper, especially as if we merely swap Hockaday and JP around. That would have some merit for Lowe. It could still work along the lines I suggested. Demote JP, look for a new manager and big up Hockaday whilst the interviews are taking place.
Wes Tender Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns? About as devious as Lowe coming back with Wilde's help, getting shot of Pearson on false grounds that he was too expensive and appointing JP and Wotte, a plan that he had in mind implementing way before Burley's appointment? No, your version has one fatal error. Hockaday would have to be paid off and Dowie's wages would be too steep at the moment. The way I outlined, is cheaper, especially as if we merely swap Hockaday and JP around. That would have some merit for Lowe. It could still work along the lines I suggested. Demote JP, look for a new manager and big up Hockaday whilst the interviews are taking place.
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Jp will not 'walk' without a substantial settlement. He did after all buy out his contract with his former club to be here. He could also legitimately claim that he was denied the use of the experienced players that could/would have made all the difference to results.
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Jp will not 'walk' without a substantial settlement. He did after all buy out his contract with his former club to be here. He could also legitimately claim that he was denied the use of the experienced players that could/would have made all the difference to results.
Scummer Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 (convinced Boothroyd will be off to Norwich) Jay was co-commentating on 5Live on Saturday, and was asked about the Norwich job. He said something along the lines of: Most of the time when clubs sack their manager they already have someone lined up to replace him. The fact that I'm working here for 5Live should tell you all you need to know about that one. So he didn't seem to think Norwich was an option.
Scummer Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 (convinced Boothroyd will be off to Norwich) Jay was co-commentating on 5Live on Saturday, and was asked about the Norwich job. He said something along the lines of: Most of the time when clubs sack their manager they already have someone lined up to replace him. The fact that I'm working here for 5Live should tell you all you need to know about that one. So he didn't seem to think Norwich was an option.
Thedelldays Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns? would go with that
Thedelldays Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Think you have been watching too many episodes of th X files! ;-) but as its conspiracy day, how about... LOwe wants to get rid of Jan but we cant afford the pay off really, so Hockadya goes leaving an opening at Academy level - JP is moved sideways as Academy Director (would not be such a bad move) - wotte stays looking after reserves leaving an opening for a new man as Dowie takes the reigns? would go with that
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 If he was going to sack JP, why would he need a 'crisis meeting'? In my view he should have sacked him after the Forest game, when we should have appointed (as I have said for around a year now) Billy Davies. But he has a personality of his own. Best case is he sacks JP and brings in someone like Dowie or Adams (convinced Boothroyd will be off to Norwich) but he'll probably just say to Wotte - 'here you are - you have a go'. Then more of the same and we're down. Or maybe the crisis is to announce that we're going into admin... Lowe still has to appease the bank with real 'economies' this month. So, much as I want an experienced manager, I can't see it being an expensive Dowie or similar. It has to be an internal appointment. Incidentally, how many coaching staff do we have at the moment? Hasn't the number been increased during the season?
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 If he was going to sack JP, why would he need a 'crisis meeting'? In my view he should have sacked him after the Forest game, when we should have appointed (as I have said for around a year now) Billy Davies. But he has a personality of his own. Best case is he sacks JP and brings in someone like Dowie or Adams (convinced Boothroyd will be off to Norwich) but he'll probably just say to Wotte - 'here you are - you have a go'. Then more of the same and we're down. Or maybe the crisis is to announce that we're going into admin... Lowe still has to appease the bank with real 'economies' this month. So, much as I want an experienced manager, I can't see it being an expensive Dowie or similar. It has to be an internal appointment. Incidentally, how many coaching staff do we have at the moment? Hasn't the number been increased during the season?
OldNick Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Not so sure. Cowen is understood to be seriously underwhelmed by it all. Wilde was so stunned and scared he had to be escorted out and Jones will go with the flow. Lowe certainly will support Poortvliet, but I think there may well be a push from the others to change things. It's whether Lowe will bute the bullet and admit he got it wrong (again). I can see that it is very possible that he is too stubborn and will plough on in an attempt to be proved right, so I can see where you're coming from, but I just think it's now come to a head and soemthing needs to be done. Not sure what some of the othe power brokers think e.g. Richards & Askham etc, but understand they're not particularly phased by the demonstrations, probably just dismissing them as a minority in the same way they did with the Branfoot protests. They only got jittery when people withdrew their custom.Ump I agree, the frans need to turn their attention not on RL as it is like water off a ducks back to him, it is the Askham etc who sitting in the shadows with their smug looks that ned the attention.Askham took a long time under branfoot to change (we were then the freindly family club LOL). I think Ladysaint idea to protest of not going into the ground until half time is a good idea (thats if they 'd open the turnstiles!) If RL does not change the manager i will be part of that.
OldNick Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Not so sure. Cowen is understood to be seriously underwhelmed by it all. Wilde was so stunned and scared he had to be escorted out and Jones will go with the flow. Lowe certainly will support Poortvliet, but I think there may well be a push from the others to change things. It's whether Lowe will bute the bullet and admit he got it wrong (again). I can see that it is very possible that he is too stubborn and will plough on in an attempt to be proved right, so I can see where you're coming from, but I just think it's now come to a head and soemthing needs to be done. Not sure what some of the othe power brokers think e.g. Richards & Askham etc, but understand they're not particularly phased by the demonstrations, probably just dismissing them as a minority in the same way they did with the Branfoot protests. They only got jittery when people withdrew their custom.Ump I agree, the frans need to turn their attention not on RL as it is like water off a ducks back to him, it is the Askham etc who sitting in the shadows with their smug looks that ned the attention.Askham took a long time under branfoot to change (we were then the freindly family club LOL). I think Ladysaint idea to protest of not going into the ground until half time is a good idea (thats if they 'd open the turnstiles!) If RL does not change the manager i will be part of that.
OldNick Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Cotterill is often at the club,he is good working with youth and a small budget. IMHO Wes's scenario is wide of the mark.Allegedly Hockaday had a bust up with Wotton is what I was told that is why he was going. Hockaday allegedly is not that popular anywhere and was gone before the Barnsley game, hence Wotton being called to return.I can't see Hockaday coming back unless we did go for Boothroyd and he wanrted him.I sense it would not be popular if he did return.
OldNick Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Cotterill is often at the club,he is good working with youth and a small budget. IMHO Wes's scenario is wide of the mark.Allegedly Hockaday had a bust up with Wotton is what I was told that is why he was going. Hockaday allegedly is not that popular anywhere and was gone before the Barnsley game, hence Wotton being called to return.I can't see Hockaday coming back unless we did go for Boothroyd and he wanrted him.I sense it would not be popular if he did return.
JustMike Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Ump I agree, the frans need to turn their attention not on RL as it is like water off a ducks back to him, it is the Askham etc who sitting in the shadows with their smug looks that ned the attention.Askham took a long time under branfoot to change (we were then the freindly family club LOL). I think Ladysaint idea to protest of not going into the ground until half time is a good idea (thats if they 'd open the turnstiles!) If RL does not change the manager i will be part of that. thats the one i think would have the most impact. The media would be all over it too, but like you say, would they let us in?
JustMike Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Ump I agree, the frans need to turn their attention not on RL as it is like water off a ducks back to him, it is the Askham etc who sitting in the shadows with their smug looks that ned the attention.Askham took a long time under branfoot to change (we were then the freindly family club LOL). I think Ladysaint idea to protest of not going into the ground until half time is a good idea (thats if they 'd open the turnstiles!) If RL does not change the manager i will be part of that. thats the one i think would have the most impact. The media would be all over it too, but like you say, would they let us in?
Thedelldays Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Cotterill is often at the club,he is good working with youth and a small budget. IMHO Wes's scenario is wide of the mark.Allegedly Hockaday had a bust up with Wotton is what I was told that is why he was going. Hockaday allegedly is not that popular anywhere and was gone before the Barnsley game, hence Wotton being called to return.I can't see Hockaday coming back unless we did go for Boothroyd and he wanrted him.I sense it would not be popular if he did return. even though it does not really matter...just wait for people to have a dig at the club for hockadays departure...
Thedelldays Posted 20 January, 2009 Posted 20 January, 2009 Cotterill is often at the club,he is good working with youth and a small budget. IMHO Wes's scenario is wide of the mark.Allegedly Hockaday had a bust up with Wotton is what I was told that is why he was going. Hockaday allegedly is not that popular anywhere and was gone before the Barnsley game, hence Wotton being called to return.I can't see Hockaday coming back unless we did go for Boothroyd and he wanrted him.I sense it would not be popular if he did return. even though it does not really matter...just wait for people to have a dig at the club for hockadays departure...
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