Ohio Saint Posted 22 May, 2019 Share Posted 22 May, 2019 Simplify the penalty rules, everyone does what the jell they like....that's what will happen anyway for the top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 I've heard that it is going to be tried out at grass roots level next season. Rather than grass roots level I think these should be tried out in woman’s football. It’ll be great for women’s football to be the pioneers of all the changes and raise the profile of the game, ultimately if it works in front of a couple of hundred fans at a professional women’s game it’s more likely to work and be easier to transfer to the mans game than in parks football. Plus There will be less arguing about the decisions (unless it’s time of the month) and if the decisions don’t work no one cares about the results anyway so there is no downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/791/171520_110319_IFAB_LoG_changes_and_clarifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states. The full text is as follows: It is an offence if a player: * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then: ** scores in the opponents’ goal ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity ** scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper It is usually an offence if a player: * touches the ball with their hand/arm when: ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm) The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close. Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’shand/arm: * directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot) * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/791/171520_110319_IFAB_LoG_changes_and_clarifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states. The full text is as follows: It is an offence if a player: * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then: ** scores in the opponents’ goal ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity ** scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper It is usually an offence if a player: * touches the ball with their hand/arm when: ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm) The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close. Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’shand/arm: * directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot) * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body For me that list does clarify pretty much every eventuality. Having said that, it's a pretty long check list for a referee to mentally go through on the spur of the moment whilst action still continues around him, it's no wonder inconsistencies creep in. Don't like the BIB, I think if a keeper can punch clear a cross whilst under pressure with enough power and accuracy to get it straight into the opposition net 100+ yards away he deserves the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 For me that list does clarify pretty much every eventuality. Having said that, it's a pretty long check list for a referee to mentally go through on the spur of the moment whilst action still continues around him, it's no wonder inconsistencies creep in. Yeah, I think it's pretty unambiguous now, which is all we ask for, really. Maybe next year they'll clear up the offside law... Ultimately, we know that most players don't deliberately handle it, but if they've gained a significant advantage from doing so, they should be penalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/791/171520_110319_IFAB_LoG_changes_and_clarifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states. The full text is as follows: It is an offence if a player: * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then: ** scores in the opponents’ goal ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity ** scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper It is usually an offence if a player: * touches the ball with their hand/arm when: ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm) The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close. Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’shand/arm: * directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot) * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body "has made their body unnaturally bigger" Has the arm swollen to twice its normal size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 What about boners? Is that third arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 What about boners? Is that third arm? No, but it's the reason attackers have to be at least 1m away from a wall at free kicks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 23 May, 2019 Share Posted 23 May, 2019 Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/791/171520_110319_IFAB_LoG_changes_and_clarifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states. The full text is as follows: It is an offence if a player: * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then: ** scores in the opponents’ goal ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity ** scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper It is usually an offence if a player: * touches the ball with their hand/arm when: ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm) The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close. Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’shand/arm: * directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot) * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body What's the definition of "close"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 24 May, 2019 Share Posted 24 May, 2019 What's the definition of "close"? Dating, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 September, 2019 Share Posted 28 September, 2019 If the game was stopped in the penalty area then the ball will be given to the goalkeeper. No-one see a problem with this...? I hear that there have been issues today with drop balls being given to the defending team rather than the team that had possession today, proving what a ridiculous rule this is. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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