washsaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 This last game sums up the misery of this season. Glad it's all over - Ralph did what he needed but my god, he has a challenge on in the summer. Utterly forgettable season again and we have an absolutely dire squad. Another season of struggle beckons next season without a radical overhaul of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Absolutely. I know people will say the last few games didn't matter but I'd have expected better results from the run-in that we had. 6 points from 6 games against, Wolves, Newcastle, Watford, Bournemouth, West Ham and Huddersfield is very poor. A major overhaul is definitely needed. The last 2 seasons have been ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 ^ agreed. Another forgettable season for sure. Those crisitising RH for finishing 16th need to remember that he wasn't manager the full season. In fact if you look at the table since he arrived we would actually be 15th!! Big clear out needed. Same position as a year ago. But we now have RH over Hughes and importantly no Les Reed killing us. Onwards and upwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 3 points better off than last season. Progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Two more games we would be down! Form has gone totally since that wolves game culminating in home draws with udders and a bournemouth team that have been on the beach for months We need a complete overhaul and to cut out the many mistakes we make to keep giving leads away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanghai Saint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 **** me more whinging fans - this forum is the dictionary definition of a half glass empty. Enjoy the Summer and let Ralph get on with his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 A very poor end to the season after the Wolves win. A lot of work to do in the summer to avoid another relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 We are the fu cking Dons when it comes to drawing football matches. Three seasons of it. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Poor end to the season But the job was done a couple of weeks ago and that was the main aim for Ralph. I have no doubt that we would be bottom of the league had the 'stuck' with Hughes. Ralph looks like a good manager but he does prefer 4222 formation. We clearly do not have the players to play it and despite what the dinlows say here, we require a decent chunk of changes to the side and actually sign some quality, to break into the top 10 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Yep, these last few games have underlined what a painfully average set of players we have at the moment and also what a great job Ralph has managed to do in the second half of the season to drag us out of the mire. The positive thing is nobody at the club should be under any illusions now about the amount of work that needs doing to the squad if we want to become a decent top half prem side again. I have faith in Ralph but he will need good support from above in the summer if we are to progress much next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Really disappointing finish to the season. We looked crap. Create chances but can't score them. Gunn's poor first touch just cost us £1.9 million and our pride - we couldn't even manage 40 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Not a great season for various reasons, imo. That's not just with my saints hat on, but there is something fundamentally wrong with a league where 2nd/3rd place are separated by 25 points and 6th/7th by 11 points. Can't see that changing any time soon, the big boys really didn't take kindly to Leicester spoiling their cartel at all, did they.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Two more games we would be down! Form has gone totally since that wolves game culminating in home draws with udders and a bournemouth team that have been on the beach for months We need a complete overhaul and to cut out the many mistakes we make to keep giving leads away. Desire and urgency went once we won a game that made us virtually safe, shock horror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 1 win at home against the teams 9-20.... That's got to be a record in itself. Hopegully an unrepeatable one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Man city have picked up more points (198) in two season than we have in last 4 seasons (184) They have also scored more in 2 seasons (197) that we have in 4 seasons (182) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Sitting in the car, glad I’ve got to drive home because I wouldn’t want a beer in Wetherspoons after such a miserable afternoon. OK, so the Huddersfield goal was down to a silly mistake by Gunn, but the performance was dire. Ralph can only play the players he has and it’s worth remembering that when he came here, Saints were below Huddersfield in the table. The club has to unload half the squad at least and rebuild from the ground up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Austin looks like Aguero's fat dad with that haircut. Did the pitch invader try and poo in the goal. Can't wait for the summer clearout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 ^ agreed. Another forgettable season for sure. Those crisitising RH for finishing 16th need to remember that he wasn't manager the full season. In fact if you look at the table since he arrived we would actually be 15th!! Big clear out needed. Same position as a year ago. But we now have RH over Hughes and importantly no Les Reed killing us. Onwards and upwards Well 15th is still dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Man city have picked up more points (198) in two season than we have in last 4 seasons (184) They have also scored more in 2 seasons (197) that we have in 4 seasons (182) They have also spent the best part of a billion pounds since the Arabs took over ! Not exactly a ‘like for like’ comparison, eh ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 A few positives today. Redmond... spectacular. Ings, some promising touches and constantly fighting to win the ball... just not clinical in front of goal. But given we're stuck w him, I felt a little happier at what i saw today. Long also some great interplay, just not in the penalty area. Valery, a couple of glorious moments. I like our midfield. And when our defense is healthy, Bednarek, Vest, and Yosh are a strong base. So... i don't think the rebuilding project is quite as hard as some make out. The main thing we need: a striker with killer instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 (edited) A few positives today. Redmond... spectacular. Ings, some promising touches and constantly fighting to win the ball... just not clinical in front of goal. But given we're stuck w him, I felt a little happier at what i saw today. Long also some great interplay, just not in the penalty area. Valery, a couple of glorious moments. I like our midfield. And when our defense is healthy, Bednarek, Vest, and Yosh are a strong base. So... i don't think the rebuilding project is quite as hard as some make out. The main thing we need: a striker with killer instinct. Pretty much every team needs a striker with killer instinct and ones who can do it in the PL are rare. I’m not sure it’s a realistic thing to hope for. Obviously it’s possible and would be brilliant if we could, but I think we’re better off focusing on a type of striker to suit our style of play. Is that a quick striker who doesn’t have the first touch or eye for goal of a Shlong, or one who can hold the ball up and be a threat from crosses? While I agree that there are some players in the squad who are decent enough, I also don’t look at the same players you’ve listed and think they are excellent. They’re just ‘ok’. Even our best players don’t ooze a different class - Hojbjerg is arguably one of our better players but if we put him up for sale who would be interested? I’d say at best Everton/Wolves, hardly a glowing representation of our squad if we have hopes of matching those clubs next season. The main thing is we stayed up and now have a manager who is capable of getting more rather than less out of a group of players. That in itself isn’t enough, but it is the single most important piece of the puzzle. Edited 12 May, 2019 by mrfahaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Not at the game but the response says it all. This side is unfortunately the end result of Reeds influence over the last few years and we are now left with the dregs of a squad and a big majority of them not worth a bean. The damage done is going to take some time and investment to put right, whether or not Gao is up to it or not god knows. I am not exactly optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 For the third season running, delighted it's all over. See you in August for (hopefully) a far more enjoyable season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 **** me more whinging fans - this forum is the dictionary definition of a half glass empty. Enjoy the Summer and let Ralph get on with his job. - - - - me more glass full when clearly it is empty. Say it as it is, today was really poor again - no ifs, no buts just poor.... You are not a better fan if you try to dress that up as something more positive than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Yeah hopefully major restructuring in the summer because it’s been depressing again. Also Hopefully i’ll Never have to see the likes of Austin in a saints shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 And when our defense is healthy, Bednarek, Vest, and Yosh are a strong base. So... i don't think the rebuilding project is quite as hard as some make out. Delusional. Vestergaard can't play in a back four because he can't move. Bednarek has been all right - but is again wildly exposed in a back four due to poor mobility. No defence in the history of football with Yoshida in it has ever been described as a "strong base". Given that Hasenhuttl wants to play a back four, the fact that two centre backs don't have the attributes for it, and the other barely qualified as our third choice in the days when we had good defenders, I'd say the rebuild (not that I have any faith in it happening) is going to be extremely hard. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real saint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 People thinking a top 10 finish is near are deluded today was bad and shows we are light years away from 12th let alone top 10, tough job coming up but maybe with a few better players next year we may get to this point. one things for sure with this lot is the blind panic in the whole team with a simple punt up field good luck Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 That's the third dire season thanks to the management recruitment after Koeman left us, hard to stay interested to travel and watch a lot of the dross,last week at West Ham and today being typical of the season. We need a leader in defence and a goal scorer and no more "water carriers". Now we have Ralph on board we are due a decent season next time around. Unlike the previous three incumbents , I think we can put our trust in the manager and his efforts over the summer recruiting / shipping out and a strong hard working pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Delusional. Vestergaard can't play in a back four because he can't move. Bednarek has been all right - but is again wildly exposed in a back four due to poor mobility. No defence in the history of football with Yoshida in it has ever been described as a "strong base". Given that Hasenhuttl wants to play a back four, the fact that two centre backs don't have the attributes for it, and the other barely qualified as our third choice in the days when we had good defenders, I'd say the rebuild (not that I have any faith in it happening) is going to be extremely hard. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Spot on. None of our CBs are really good enough, but I have little faith that we'll be able to do much about it. If RH wants to play 4-2-2-2 and we can only make one CB signing, it'll need to be someone quick, with great leadership qualities, who also never, ever gets injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 For the third season running, delighted it's all over. See you in August for (hopefully) a far more enjoyable season. "Its the hope that kills you"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 We don't have one player I'd be that unhappy about losing. Not one. I've read occasionally people saying that PEH/JWP/Bednarek/Redmond are good, but they aren't good. We know they aren't good, we've had them a while and they have never stood out until the rest of the team was sufficiently poor to make "average" look good. Ralph has very little to work with and I can't imagine he'll be able to rebuild enough to make a huge difference next season. This is going to take a bit just to raise us from a poor team to an average team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Yep, roll on next season. Hopefully RH will get the backing he needs and get some decent players in who will be able to play his style of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Delusional. Vestergaard can't play in a back four because he can't move. Bednarek has been all right - but is again wildly exposed in a back four due to poor mobility. No defence in the history of football with Yoshida in it has ever been described as a "strong base". Given that Hasenhuttl wants to play a back four, the fact that two centre backs don't have the attributes for it, and the other barely qualified as our third choice in the days when we had good defenders, I'd say the rebuild (not that I have any faith in it happening) is going to be extremely hard. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Nail on the head regarding our CB options. Massive improvement needed there and the amount of points we've dropped from winning positions throughout the season proves this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Thank god it's over. That's all I can say. Get rid of the majority and start again, it's the only way to fix it. Sadly, we will struggle to get anyone to take them as they're so bad and paid so much! God, what a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 A few positives today. Redmond... spectacular. Ings, some promising touches and constantly fighting to win the ball... just not clinical in front of goal. But given we're stuck w him, I felt a little happier at what i saw today. Long also some great interplay, just not in the penalty area. Valery, a couple of glorious moments. I like our midfield. And when our defense is healthy, Bednarek, Vest, and Yosh are a strong base. So... i don't think the rebuilding project is quite as hard as some make out. The main thing we need: a striker with killer instinct. There was nothing positive in what I saw today, one of the worst displays of the season. If that's the standard, then we'll be following Huddersfield. Defence for me is where the big problems are. Yoshida is a decent squad player, but play him regular and you do leak goals. Bednerak is decent, but needs better and more mobile players around him. I'd say we need a RB, and at least one, if not two quick/powerful CB's in the summer who are suited to this league. Long is just average, has a purple patch every couple of years, but we need to be tough on guys like him. Is he really good enough? Sadly, for all his running and effort, his quality is very poor. Ings needs to step up very, very quickly for me - really want to like him, but I'm finding it very hard to enjoy his displays - if we didn't have an obligation to buy him I'd hand him back to Liverpool in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Fans are not completely blameless in this whole mess. During all the Les Reed sales, duff replacements and during all the manager hires and fires and horrible performances, not a single protest or grumble at the board. Too polite, weak or just simply lack energy, ambition and passion on and off the pitch. As demonstrated on this forum it's frowned upon even now to critisise anything SFC. The weak "happy to have a club" fans have the club they've allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Textbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Fans are not completely blameless in this whole mess. During all the Les Reed sales, duff replacements and during all the manager hires and fires and horrible performances, not a single protest or grumble at the board. Too polite, weak or just simply lack energy, ambition and passion on and off the pitch. As demonstrated on this forum it's frowned upon even now to critisise anything SFC. The weak "happy to have a club" fans have the club they've allowed. Yes but you, Cabbage Face and all your other sign ons do nothing but criticise. That is what makes you all so tedious. Perhaps stop being a "fan" and become a "supporter". The clue is in the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Yes but you, Cabbage Face and all your other sign ons do nothing but criticise. That is what makes you all so tedious. Perhaps stop being a "fan" and become a "supporter". The clue is in the name. FYI you can support the club without supporting the way it's managed. You don't have to be sappy, weak and submissive with all things SFC to be a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 FYI you can support the club without supporting the way it's managed. You don't have to be sappy, weak and submissive with all things SFC to be a fan …. and all your posts only criticise the way that the club is managed ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 cant wait till our top 10 squad is supplemented with Hoedt, Carillo, Cedric and Clasie. exciting times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 cant wait till our top 10 squad is supplemented with Hoedt, Carillo, Cedric and Clasie. exciting times Just a few tweaks mate. No need for an overhaul. Top squad, this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 …. and all your posts only criticise the way that the club is managed ????? You and many others remained completely silent during the clubs poor "management". You're now venting and looking for someone to blame. You have the SFC you've allowed. The real "fans" have been happy to sit silently and allow the clubs decline. The "trolls" have been angry, frustrated and vocal MLK: lives begin to end the day we become silent on things that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Get a decent goalscorer and those draws turn into wins, we move up the table and fans are happy(ish). Ralph didn't do a good job this season - he did a near miraculous one. We were on the verge of being cut adrift by a long way when he came, 9 points at the half way point was looking quite possible when Hughes was sacked. He steadied the ship very quickly, got us playing with energy and enthusiasm and managed to squeeze a few decent performances from the team. I think next season will be a lot better - as long as Ralph stays + he has a decent kitty to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 cant wait till our top 10 squad is supplemented with Hoedt, Carillo, Cedric and Clasie. exciting times No place for Boufal then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 You and many others remained completely silent during the clubs poor "management". You're now venting and looking for someone to blame. You have the SFC you've allowed. The real "fans" have been happy to sit silently and allow the clubs decline. The "trolls" have been angry, frustrated and vocal MLK: lives begin to end the day we become silent on things that matter. As per every home game this season, I was sat in the Kingsland with ‘real fans’ who have opinions (sometimes positive, sometimes negative but always supportive) ! Trolls like you do the club a disservice and do not share the passion and dedication of those who truly care ! Take a look in the mirror some day and ask yourself if you really are a Saints fan because many posters on here suspect that you are not !! Ps. Hopefully you had a cheeky bet on a 1-1 draw today ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Another one like these last 2 and I think I'll be done ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Another one like these last 2 and I think I'll be done ! You’ve got a point, I shouldn’t rise to the bait, he gets up my nose and sometimes I can’t resist !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Some ups and downs, ups were definitely beating Spurs and Arsenal , actually winning some home games. Lows - some unbelievably shlte performances, Cardiff home / away, Huddersfield home, going out of both cups on pens and missing out of an away day to Accrington Stanley, we've got some very average players in the squad, tragic waste of wages with players out on loan and over reliance on youngsters from the academy, lucky Valery was able to step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 May, 2019 Share Posted 12 May, 2019 Totally unenjoyable and probably our worst performances since the last relegation season. It is hard to believe that the owner will have enough money to sort this mess out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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