Bad Wolf Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 I think it's safe to say that certain players have blown their last chance. There are four players from our team today that I never want to see play for us again.
Sheaf Saint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 I think it's safe to say that certain players have blown their last chance. There are four players from our team today that I never want to see play for us again. Forster, Stephens, Elyounoussi. Who's the 4th? Armstrong?
davefoggy Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Fraser. Why, why, why, pick him???? I hope they refund all travelling fans for that one decision alone. Disgrace
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Absolute waste of money. Relegation battle next season with our useless **** owner.
obelisk Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 West Ham didn't really have to break into a sweat. Can't think of one Saints player that can come out of that with their held held high. Shocking in all areas.
woodsaint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 I think it's safe to say that certain players have blown their last chance. There are four players from our team today that I never want to see play for us again. Would that be Forster, Stephens, Elyonnoussi and Armstrong by any chance. Decent first 20 minutes of second half, outside of that pathetic performance. Defence is a shambles at times
LGTL Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Forster, Stephens, Elyounoussi. Who's the 4th? Armstrong? Long and Armstrong would be my 4th and 5th.
beatlesaint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Ever since Stephens came back into the starting lineup. Coincidence? No
austsaint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 First half Forster did really well imo. Made some decent saves and was probably our best player. Second half though he made some really bad mistakes including the goal. When it was 1-0 we were in the game and were creating chances. That error made it 2-0 and pretty much killed the game. I don't think it is right to blame Forster for the loss but his mistakes as with others are the reason we lost. Our defending has been so bad recently. This will be the 4th game in 6 where we have let in 3 goals. That is awful. He was never close to being our best player - made two regulation saves and punched a cross away when he should have caught it. Second half, an embarrassing liability; just don't understand why Forster started today. Shop window? No sale!
Baird of the land Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Pretty appalling. Lack of desire to get points is really sickening. Feel sorry for anyone who paid money for that rubbish showing. Forster still refuses to catch the ball far too often, giving them second goal. Long looking for a penalty rather 5han shooting illustrates why we need a striker. Elyounessi, embarrassing that he was given another 90 minutes to illustrate just how crap he is. Stephens, should be doing a lot better for the third.
Bad Wolf Posted 4 May, 2019 Author Posted 4 May, 2019 It WAS Armstrong but considered his price tag etc, I'm prepared to give him another season. The other is Long.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Long and Armstrong would be my 4th and 5th. Sadly at the moment Long offers more than Ings but we are stuck with him...
stknowle Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 I think it's safe to say that certain players have blown their last chance. There are four players from our team today that I never want to see play for us again. Go on then - Forster, Moi, Stephens, ..........................................
SaintBobby Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 It's illegal to show actual footage of the game In general, or just because our performance was 18 certificate sh1te?
S-Clarke Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 This game was a showcase on why Ross Wilson shouldn’t be anywhere near this club. Ely, Lemina, Ings, Armstrong. I have no confidence in next season as he will kill us.
Jimmy_D Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Safe to say we were on the beach for that one. The fringe players that were given a chance certainly haven't taken it.
BallBoy Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Saints just don't do friendlies. Never have. I know. Technically it wasn't a friendly but if we had still needed points to be safe then this would not have been the result. IMHO
John Boy Saint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Glad I decided to go out get some dirt from down the Garden Centre to at long last plant on my Bourgainvillea. Skimming through doesn’t look like I missed much.
SonicBoom Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 RH must take some blame. I don't believe managers put a terrible side out to prove a point. He just put out a terrible side. There are enough people at the club who could tell him why they are fringe players. They aren't good enough to get in a poor side. Unless there are big changes we'll be back here again next year fighting the drop.
redkeith Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 It showed today that we can not coast through games, it's full Ralph or nothing for us. Forster needs to be paid of I'm afraid. Terrible palm down for the 2nd goal and showing the reflexes of an Ent for the 3rd. Like most, I would be happy not to see Ely, Forster and Stephens again, possibly Armstrong and Long too. WTF was Long thinking when he took that extra touch at 1 0 !
Batman Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 we have zero squad depth and a handful of players on very good money who have no place in the premier league. throw in Ings into that. Woeful again today
verlaine1979 Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Long showed why he'll never be good enough - first touch for his chance was just so poor. Hope him, Stephens and FF are gone next season (along with Ely who has surely proven himself deadwood already).
NewYorkSaint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Players we can build an exciting team around: Gunn, Yoshida, Bednarek, Vest, Valery, Bertrand, Romeu, Hoj, JWP, Lemina, Redmond, Sims, Long (I think), Armstrong (maybe... has been promising on occasion). Targett is reasonable backup wing-back. The rest I wouldn't miss if they left. Suspect Ralph feels the same. The Minimum needs: a lethal striker, a genuinely reliable centre-back.
niceandfriendly Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 WTF was Long thinking when he took that extra touch at 1 0 ! He was thinking he could knock it past the defender who would then clatter into him and win a pen, when he could have had a shot on goal from 10 yards out. Horrible decision.
Batman Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 we have zero squad depth and a handful of players on very good money who have no place in the premier league. throw in Ings into that. Woeful again today
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Long showed why he'll never be good enough - first touch for his chance was just so poor. Hope him, Stephens and FF are gone next season (along with Ely who has surely proven himself deadwood already). True but at least he gets in goal scoring positions unlike Ings who did nothing at all
qwertyell Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Not going to happen, obviously, but I'd be more than happy if we had a mass clear out in the summer - we've got so many horribly mediocre players and those past their prime and in terminal decline it's beyond parody. From today's line up, it'd be no loss at all if Forster, Stephens, Armstrong, Elyounoussi, Ings and Long weren't Saints players next season. Throw in Austin, Hoedt, Cedric, Carrillo, Clasie, Boufal and probably call time on Academy graduates who just aren't quite good enough: McQueen, Reed, Hesketh, Gallagher, Targett, Jones. Push the reset button and start again. The Les Reed era is over and the sooner we can rid ourselves of all of his accumulated crap, the sooner we can move forward. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk
northam soul Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 we have zero squad depth and a handful of players on very good money who have no place in the premier league. throw in Ings into that. Woeful again today Hence why we will struggle to get rid of them in the summer, it’s going to be a tough window
Shance Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 That was by far our worst performance under Ralph. Forster started ok but f*ck me did he revert to type in the game. Forster, Stephens and Mo can all leave. I never want to see any of them play for us again. They are absolute turd.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 On a lighter note,did anyone have any insurance bets? Or is that just made up crap?
Mr X Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 True but at least he gets in goal scoring positions unlike Ings who did nothing at allThat's the real criminal thing.... Who agreed to the deal to pay 20 million for ings!!??? He is worth about five million tops Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk
hasper57saint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Yet again a substandard team makes a mediocre team look good. As soon as I saw the team sheet I thought "Oh!s.h.i.t" FF and JS plus Ellenousie. Who wants a few pieces of surplus to requirement 'pretenders' for free.Ralph knows who to dump now if he didn't before this Charade.
nta786 Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 That's the real criminal thing.... Who agreed to the deal to pay 20 million for ings!!??? He is worth about five million tops Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk he used to be quite rapid when he was at Burnley, now looks like he is having a Rooney-esque fade in the sense that he's lost pace and is dropping deeper to mask it. If I didn't no what his price tag was I'd have said fine to keep as a squad player, but £20m just seems like that is a third of our budget gone already
Sheaf Saint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 That's the real criminal thing.... Who agreed to the deal to pay 20 million for ings!!??? He is worth about five million tops Sent from my moto g(6) play using Tapatalk In the first third of the season he looked sharp and I thought maybe he might be the signing we wanted him to be. Since his return from injury he hasn't been quite the same but still contributes far more than Austin is capable of. I wonder how much of his drop in performance is down to the impact of Hughes' incredibly slack training regime. Wasn't he unofficially quoted as saying it was like a holiday camp compared to Liverpool?
S-Clarke Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 he used to be quite rapid when he was at Burnley, now looks like he is having a Rooney-esque fade in the sense that he's lost pace and is dropping deeper to mask it. If I didn't no what his price tag was I'd have said fine to keep as a squad player, but £20m just seems like that is a third of our budget gone already He is already ours. Thank Ross for this one, as per. More millions down the ****er, he looks ****ed.
LaptopSaint Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Three goals conceded, again. It was cold. The atmosphere was meh. Shane not even getting a shot away was appalling. Mo was Mo. And please don’t sell Gunn or McCarthy.
Micky Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 On a lighter note,did anyone have any insurance bets? This bit is true 》》》 Or is that just made up crap? HTH. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
The Cat Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Fraser. Why, why, why, pick him???? I hope they refund all travelling fans for that one decision alone. Disgrace £80 for me and the 2 kids. It's a joke that West Ham charge £25 for concessions. Waste of what should be a decent away. Last game is supposed to be somewhat fun, that was anything but.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Hopefully it's Ralph illustrating to the board that staying up was just the start of the job not job done. Squad needs proper surgery to weed out the real dross we've had in the squad over the past 3 years. Sadly, what we'll get is partial reconstruction hampered by players being loaned out as we can't find new clubs for them, I fear.
Katalinic Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Earliest I have ever left a game. Ralph has done an amazing job with this collection of dross but we now need to be ruthless.
stknowle Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Elyounoussi had possibly his best ever game for us today (a backheel found the intended target at one point!) and he was still hopelessly out of his depth. Another player we are going to have to ship out on loan for the rest of his contract just to get a percentage of his wages off the books.
Appy Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Elyounoussi had possibly his best ever game for us today (a backheel found the intended target at one point!) and he was still hopelessly out of his depth. Another player we are going to have to ship out on loan for the rest of his contract just to get a percentage of his wages off the books. He is pathetic, one of our worst signings since promotion and that’s saying a lot.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Earliest I have ever left a game. Ralph has done an amazing job with this collection of dross but we now need to be ruthless. Players to go Hoedt El Younissi Stephens Gallagher Boufal Carillo Flannigan Hesketh Clasie Foster Austin Possibly to go Mccarthy (will want first team) Reed Armstrong Lemina ( seems to think he is a higher class player) Long ( has the work ethic Ralph wants) Targett That is 17 players some clear out!
Kingsland Red Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 At Waterloo Station. That was a waste of an afternoon. We could have told Ralph how Forster and Ely would play. Why weaken a weakened team ?
Batman Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Players to go Hoedt El Younissi Stephens Gallagher Boufal Carillo Flannigan Hesketh Clasie Foster Austin Possibly to go Mccarthy (will want first team) Reed Armstrong Lemina ( seems to think he is a higher class player) Long ( has the work ethic Ralph wants) Targett That is 17 players some clear out! we are never moving on 17 players....maybe 7 or so but be amazed if we get into double figures from the 1st team squad
captainchris Posted 4 May, 2019 Posted 4 May, 2019 Players we can build an exciting team around: Gunn, Yoshida, Bednarek, Vest, Valery, Bertrand, Romeu, Hoj, JWP, Lemina, Redmond, Sims, Long (I think), Armstrong (maybe... has been promising on occasion). Targett is reasonable backup wing-back. The rest I wouldn't miss if they left. Suspect Ralph feels the same. The Minimum needs: a lethal striker, a genuinely reliable centre-back. Not sure about that list, Armstrong clearly a no as is Bednarek. Both do not live up to the hype they have generated.
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