Jimmy_D Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Unlucky, but funny. They'll never get this close again, they'll never have a season this good again. Wouldn’t be surprised if they struggle to pick themselves up next season after this, whatever they say it will feel like an absolute gut wrench. 97 points, +57 gd, and one defeat all season, but nothing to show for it. Couldn't have happened to a better bunch. Everything ran for Liverpool this season. The sheer amount of luck they got with last minute goals, countless teams throwing it away with stupid mistakes. Referees constantly falling for their cheating and diving, with VAR not coming in until next season. Arguably it all came together even better than Leicester had it in their title winning season. It all came together perfectly for them, and they ended up with a quite frankly incredible 97 points. The third best league performance in the history of English Football. They were incredibly lucky to get that. It is absolutely hilarious that it was all for nothing. That despite getting that third best league performance, they came up against the second best performance in the history of English Football. By eleven millimetres.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Everything ran for Liverpool this season. The sheer amount of luck they got with last minute goals, countless teams throwing it away with stupid mistakes. Referees constantly falling for their cheating and diving, with VAR not coming in until next season. Arguably it all came together even better than Leicester had it in their title winning season. It all came together perfectly for them, and they ended up with a quite frankly incredible 97 points. The third best league performance in the history of English Football. They were incredibly lucky to get that. It is absolutely hilarious that it was all for nothing. That despite getting that third best league performance, they came up against the second best performance in the history of English Football. By eleven millimetres. Mané’s second goal was offside yesterday too. Hilarious? The word is inadequate. I haven’t stopped laughing yet.
saints-cris Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Hughton sacked. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Graeme Potter the bookies favourite..
ashnats Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Mané’s second goal was offside yesterday too. Hilarious? The word is inadequate. I haven’t stopped laughing yet. VAR will be interesting. I wonder if the ref bias to big clubs will still be prevalent in terms of how it is used, but if it is used fairly, I could imagine teams like liverpool will lose 6-9 points. Saints could gain 3-6 points. It will be nice to be able to play Watford on a level playing field too...
Roo1976 Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 VAR will be interesting. I wonder if the ref bias to big clubs will still be prevalent in terms of how it is used, but if it is used fairly, I could imagine teams like liverpool will lose 6-9 points. Saints could gain 3-6 points. It will be nice to be able to play Watford on a level playing field too... love your summing up...........its still down to different opinions as to how VAR works,fair or otherwise.Again its not the same persons opinion every game you play is it?.
S-Clarke Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Hughton sacked. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Not really surprised, it's all gone a bit stale there for him. They don't have an amazing squad though, so it will be interesting to see who they can attract.
Saint Garrett Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Not surprised at Brighton, given the football they play and the fact they nearly went down because of dreadful form the second half of the season. Potter would be an odd choice for me though.
Lighthouse Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Everything ran for Liverpool this season. The sheer amount of luck they got with last minute goals, countless teams throwing it away with stupid mistakes. Referees constantly falling for their cheating and diving, with VAR not coming in until next season. Arguably it all came together even better than Leicester had it in their title winning season. It all came together perfectly for them, and they ended up with a quite frankly incredible 97 points. The third best league performance in the history of English Football. They were incredibly lucky to get that. It is absolutely hilarious that it was all for nothing. That despite getting that third best league performance, they came up against the second best performance in the history of English Football. By eleven millimetres. I think they will be a bit like Leicester. They won’t drop to 12th but psychologically and in terms of their luck in games and with injuries, it’s hard to see them keeping that kind of form up. That’s even assuming they keep their key players.
ecuk268 Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 This made me smile... https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/liverpool-allowed-to-carry-their-points-over-to-next-season-20190513185544
Batman Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 and it begins brighton accused of Racism over houghton. All very predictable
Micky Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 and it begins brighton accused of Racism over houghton. All very predictable By whom?
Micky Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 (edited) Troy Townsend, whoever he may be. Ahh, right, ta. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/05/13/troy-townsend-attacks-brighton-chris-hughton-sacking-now-worse/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7023169/Anti-racism-campaigner-Townsend-slams-Brighton-sacking-Hughton.html For me, this sacking clearly has nothing to do with skin colour / racism. As an anti-racism campaigner why hasn't Mr Townsend waited to see who is appointed. Who knows perhaps the Seagulls are about to unveil a black / female / both manager. Who knows - either way, this was clearly a footballing decision and nothing else. Edited 13 May, 2019 by Micky
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 and it begins brighton accused of Racism over houghton. All very predictable Ridiculous and all very disappointing. Haven't we as a country got past the stage of highlighting somebody's ethnicity instead of their capabilities? Every time that some idiot tries to make a differentiation based on skin colour or physical appearance they are perpetuating outdated stereotypes. Such people are the worst type of racist. Hughton was a decent player and a decent manager, not the greatest but always gave his best. He won't be the first manager to lose his job after this past season.
Window Cleaner Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Ahh, right, ta. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/05/13/troy-townsend-attacks-brighton-chris-hughton-sacking-now-worse/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7023169/Anti-racism-campaigner-Townsend-slams-Brighton-sacking-Hughton.html For me, this sacking clearly has nothing to do with skin colour / racism. As an anti-racism campaigner why hasn't Mr Townsend waited to see who is appointed. Who knows perhaps the Seagulls are about to unveil a black / female / both manager. Who knows - either way, this was clearly a footballing decision and nothing else. And John Barnes now weighing in. Seems that some think that you just have to have a regulation dose of BAME (whatever that means) people in football management. Nothing to do with ability or results or whatever you've just got to have the right number (or more)...
ericb Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 What the f*ck is racist about sacking a manager who's won 4 games in all competitions since the end of december and almost got his side relegated? It really doesn't help anyone making claims like that, all it does is demeans the actual efforts to get rid of racism from the game.
S-Clarke Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 I'm just waiting for Paul Ince and Sol Campbel to pipe up now.
striker Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 I think the firing of Hughes was racist against the Welsh
Useful Idiot Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 I think the firing of Hughes was racist against the Welsh That would be xenophobic, not racist. Racism is discrimination due to ethnicity, xenophobia due to nationality. Houghton sets his teams up in a way that makes them hard to break down but also pretty dull to watch. That, combined with a string of poor results, is the reason he was sacked, not the colour of his skin. I just wish Burnley would sack Dyche, his brand of football is even worse to watch.
OttawaSaint Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 3 wins in 23, so he should keep his job because he is black? I'd understand if he'd got them top half and got sacked but we ditched Hughes, Pelligrino and Puel after dreadful runs of form, are we discriminating against the Welsh, Argentinian and French?
Batman Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Darren Lewis @MirrorDarren Respect for Hughton isn't praising his class and dignity. Respect is giving him the chance to build on the work he has done taking an average squad into the top division. When players like Danny Rose say there is no point taking your badges, here's an example of the reasons why.
S-Clarke Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Oh for goodness sake. Here is another, Barnes is out. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11741/11719010/john-barnes-thinks-brighton-were-wrong-to-fire-chris-hughton
benjii Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Brighton's squad is utter garbage. He made Glenn Murray seem decent. I'd actually like to see what Hughton could do with a bit of backing at PL level. That said, I don't think there is any conscious or unconscious bias in any way related to this decision.
Lighthouse Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Darren Lewis @MirrorDarren Respect for Hughton isn't praising his class and dignity. Respect is giving him the chance to build on the work he has done taking an average squad into the top division. When players like Danny Rose say there is no point taking your badges, here's an example of the reasons why. Did Rose really say there’s no point in taking his badges? Good grief, what a plank.
Micky Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 What the f*ck is racist about sacking a manager who's won 4 games in all competitions since the end of december and almost got his side relegated? It really doesn't help anyone making claims like that, all it does is demeans the actual efforts to get rid of racism from the game.Exactly. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
Manuel Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 John Barnes: "Until we change our perception of a BAME person's capabilities, in all walks of life, we will be given less opportunities and less time to succeed." Who on earth is he talking about when he says "we"?
Micky Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 Has Danny Baker posted anything yet?Nope. But he's out of work so might fancy his chances of getting the gig....! Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 3 wins in 23, so he should keep his job because he is black? I'd understand if he'd got them top half and got sacked but we ditched Hughes, Pelligrino and Puel after dreadful runs of form, are we discriminating against the Welsh, Argentinian and French? Presumably that means 4 wins in 24? I would look up there record but I can’t be arsed. It doesn’t sound so bad when you put it like that.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2019 Posted 13 May, 2019 John Barnes: "Until we change our perception of a BAME person's capabilities, in all walks of life, we will be given less opportunities and less time to succeed." Who on earth is he talking about when he says "we"? Ah! So he’s after the job too
mrfahaji Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 I do think there is an issue with a lack of opportunities for BAME people (is that the right term?), but the problem is when people complain about this sacking and say it's to do with his skin colour, they undermine the actual issues because everyone dismisses it (rightly) as crying wolf. Hughton only seems to want his teams to play a certain way - he set them up not to lose at home to US for goodness sake - and there comes a point when fans want more than just surviving. After two seasons it's hard to see how Brighton are going to be anything other than a bottom 6 side with Hughton there. Of course if a new manager gets relegated then it will be billed as a mistake, but I don't blame them for rolling the dice on improving.
OldNick Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 Brighton's squad is utter garbage. He made Glenn Murray seem decent. I'd actually like to see what Hughton could do with a bit of backing at PL level. That said, I don't think there is any conscious or unconscious bias in any way related to this decision.I heard this morning he had spent a considerable amount of money
qwertyell Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 Don't see what anyone's issue is regarding firing Hughton - he was the same at Brighton as he's been in all his other jobs: a relatively competent, defensive manager who retreats into a narrow 10-0-0 at the first sign of trouble. Eventually clubs (and their supporters) begin to wonder if there's more to football than simply grim, joyless survival. He'll get another gig and it'll go the same way. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk
simo Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 This is amazing , city players singing their version of Allez,Allez Allez ! https://talksport.com/football/543071/manchester-city-players-allez-liverpool-title/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=talksportfacebook&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1557855714 Read what the lyrics were
Batman Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 This is amazing , city players singing their version of Allez,Allez Allez ! https://talksport.com/football/543071/manchester-city-players-allez-liverpool-title/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=talksportfacebook&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1557855714 Read what the lyrics were this calls for an investigation, candles and a petition!
Lighthouse Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 If Villa do go up, they’ll have to defend better than this next season.
Micky Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 West Brom down to ten, going into extra time. Chris Brunt, stupid second yellow. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
Lighthouse Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 Switched over to that Chernobyl drama instead of watching E.T. Before my time but good grief that accident was grim.
Jonnyboy Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 and it begins brighton accused of Racism over houghton. All very predictable And so it begins, the usual Tommeh defenders, complaining about complaints of racism.
angelman Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 The problem I see is, that if owners are going to be accused of racism (for it is they who sack the manager) then they might feel that it is just not worth the **** thrown at them, so not employ BAME in the first place. Darren Moore was intereviewed by the pious and sycophantic Jim White, and rather caught White off guard. Said the opportunities for BAME candidates were there, and not an issue. Also said that when fired, he was the same person who was employed ie skin colour not the issue.
Lighthouse Posted 14 May, 2019 Posted 14 May, 2019 At least we won’t have to watch another West Brom yo-yo season.
Window Cleaner Posted 15 May, 2019 Posted 15 May, 2019 If Villa do go up, they’ll have to defend better than this next season. Neither side looked good enough to survive in the PL in their current format.
DuncanRG Posted 15 May, 2019 Posted 15 May, 2019 Brighton's squad is utter garbage. He made Glenn Murray seem decent. I'd actually like to see what Hughton could do with a bit of backing at PL level. That said, I don't think there is any conscious or unconscious bias in any way related to this decision. They spent £65m last summer! That's a decent wedge and more than quite a few teams including us.
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2019 Posted 15 May, 2019 this calls for an investigation, candles and a petition! it certainly upset someone... Classless Manchester City players should be ashamed of sick Liverpool chant https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/classless-manchester-city-players-should-be-ashamed-of-sick-liverpool-chant/ar-AABmgDF?ocid=spartandhp
simo Posted 15 May, 2019 Posted 15 May, 2019 (edited) it certainly upset someone... Classless Manchester City players should be ashamed of sick Liverpool chant https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/classless-manchester-city-players-should-be-ashamed-of-sick-liverpool-chant/ar-AABmgDF?ocid=spartandhp Dippers are saying they're singing about Hilsborough and matey who got a kicking by the Roma fans ! Edited 15 May, 2019 by simo
Dark Munster Posted 15 May, 2019 Posted 15 May, 2019 Neither side looked good enough to survive in the PL in their current format. Good. The crappier the promoted teams are, the better our chances of survival.
hypochondriac Posted 15 May, 2019 Posted 15 May, 2019 Oh for goodness sake. Here is another, Barnes is out. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11741/11719010/john-barnes-thinks-brighton-were-wrong-to-fire-chris-hughton"Until we get rid of racial bias, sexism, homophobia in society, it will exist in all walks of society. Thata an amazing quote. Seriously though why are people interviewing Barnes about it? If I were Houghton I'd be insulted that people have to continually refer to my colour and interview other black people about me who may have absolutely nothing in common with each other other than the colour of their skin. It's pathetic.
simo Posted 15 May, 2019 Posted 15 May, 2019 "Until we get rid of racial bias, sexism, homophobia in society, it will exist in all walks of society. Thata an amazing quote. Seriously though why are people interviewing Barnes about it? If I were Houghton I'd be insulted that people have to continually refer to my colour and interview other black people about me who may have absolutely nothing in common with each other other than the colour of their skin. It's pathetic. Kick it out have now apologised to Brighton over comments made by Townsend!
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