SuperSAINT Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 Tough game. They've been brilliant this season. Rest Ings & save him for Bournemouth. Is Deeney still out for them?
Batman Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 Cant go into this giving up the middle of the park again I hope Deeney is still suspended as they are a good side I hope Vest and Valary are back and Lemina starts a point would be a good result
Lighthouse Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 I think we've now seen why Sims hasn't played away games until today. I'd certainly leave him out and probably Ings, with Lemina and Armstrong to come in.
Micky Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 They are a good side. Subtle mix of strength and skill in all areas, would probably take a point now. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk
whelk Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 Don’t underestimate the extra 2.5 hours recuperation time.
saint lard Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 We are complete ****e. Here’s hoping for 3 points. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Shroppie Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 Tough game. They've been brilliant this season. Rest Ings & save him for Bournemouth. Is Deeney still out for them?Yes and yes. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
fanimal Posted 20 April, 2019 Posted 20 April, 2019 Big lads, big hearts and balls needed for this one
Shroppie Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 Big lads, big hearts and balls needed for this oneYes. Watford are basically a team of thugs. We desperately need the ref onside. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
SuperSAINT Posted 21 April, 2019 Author Posted 21 April, 2019 Defeat. Probably. I hoped we'd squeeze a draw a against Newcastle. This one, I'm less optimistic about. I think it's all about our remaining home games.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 F*ck me, we lose one game and suddenly we’re a terrible team? Hopefully we will have at least one of Valery and Vestergaard back. If we can move JWP into midfield it should make us a bit more solid. Keep it tight for the first hour or so (unlike yesterday) then see if we can snatch something.
Shroppie Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 It'll be a tough game. They are a big, physical side and too many refs let them get away with it. Probably not a game for Sims to start. We could do with Vestergaard and Valery back and it sounds as if there's a good chance with both. Armstrong and Lemina both have strong cases to start but there's not room for them and JWP. At least they are still without Deeney. Could be a game to park the bus and look to hit them on the break. In which case, Long comes into the equation. I'd consider Gunn Valery (or Ramsey. Be bold) Yoshida Vestergaard (or no-one) Bednarek Bertrand Hojbjerg Romeu JWP Long Redmond Subs: McCarthy (Forster), Armstrong, Ings, Lemina, Stephens, Sims, Targett Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Dalek2003 Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 Tough game. Only hope is they are thinking about an up coming Cup final and ease off a bit?
Shroppie Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 Tough game. Only hope is they are thinking about an up coming Cup final and ease off a bit?The awesome prize of 7th place is also in sight. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Tamesaint Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 Tough game. Only hope is they are thinking about an up coming Cup final and ease off a bit? You are right. If they didn't have the Cup Final in their sights we wouldn't stand a chance. They would thrash us. Probably 9 nil. Or maybe 12 nil. Maybe we wouldn't bother turning up as they would get a 3 nil win allocated by the Premier League which would be better for our goal difference. As CB would say "Jesus wept!" I think that some of our fans need to grow a pair. Thank God this forum wasn't around for the relegation battles of the '90's when we really were c rap
Harry_SFC Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 On the basis that Vestergaard is still out, I'd start with the 4-2-2-2 that we finished the game with yesterday. We looked a lot more solid in the centre of the park and less shaky at the back. Romeu had a shocker and it's a close call between Ings and Long upfront as Ings was pretty terrible yesterday and Long has actually looked half decent in recent games. Gunn Valery Bednarek Yoshida Bertrand Hojbjerg Lemina Armstrong JWP Redmond Ings Subs: Forster Stephens Ramsey Romeu Sims Long Austin
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 Yes. Watford are basically a team of thugs. We desperately need the ref onside. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk What? They play wonderful football at times and deserve to be fighting for 7th. After yesterday's non-show humiliation can only see one result here.
Lighthouse Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 (edited) What? They play wonderful football at times and deserve to be fighting for 7th. After yesterday's non-show humiliation can only see one result here. Presumably this also applies to Palace, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Fulham, who will all replicate this weekends form in their remaining games? Edited 21 April, 2019 by Lighthouse
Dark Munster Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 What? They play wonderful football at times and deserve to be fighting for 7th. After yesterday's non-show humiliation can only see one result here. You didn't watch the second half then?
Baird of the land Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 Hopefully Valery and vestergaard are back.
qwertyell Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 F*ck me, we lose one game and suddenly we’re a terrible team? We've only mustered 36 points in consecutive seasons - there's no "suddenly" about it. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk
Lighthouse Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 We've only mustered 36 points in consecutive seasons - there's no "suddenly" about it. We’d also won 4 out of 6 before this weekend and the 2 we didn’t were Liverpool and a narrow, probably underserved, loss at OT. Performances under other managers aren’t relevant now, under Ralph were a mid table team.
SaintTex Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 I’d be happy with a point tbhme too. that will put us up 6 points above Cardiff, carrying a better GD. with three matches to go, It is hard to imagine Cardiff getting 7 points and Saints getting nothing.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 April, 2019 Posted 21 April, 2019 We've only mustered 36 points in consecutive seasons - there's no "suddenly" about it. We still have 4 games to play this season and we’d won 4 of our last 6 before Saturday. We’re not as good as we used to be but we are not terrible. Huddersfield have 14 points- that’s a terrible team.
Vancouver Saint Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Watford owe us a couple of jammy extra-time handball or offside goals. Think we'll sneak this one that way. 0-1 to the Saints. Would take a point though. Need to take Delafou (sp) out of the game early...not very sporting, but hey this is about safety and survival.
Danbert Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Deeney's out, and I fancy us for this one, especially if Valery and Vestergaard are fit.
jimmer42 Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 On the basis that Vestergaard is still out, I'd start with the 4-2-2-2 that we finished the game with yesterday. We looked a lot more solid in the centre of the park and less shaky at the back. Romeu had a shocker and it's a close call between Ings and Long upfront as Ings was pretty terrible yesterday and Long has actually looked half decent in recent games. Gunn Valery Bednarek Yoshida Bertrand Hojbjerg Lemina Armstrong JWP Redmond Ings Subs: Forster Stephens Ramsey Romeu Sims Long Austin Not a bad call....I think I’d have Romeu in for Armstrong sitting in the defensive pairing with Hojbjerg and Lemieux slightly further forward with JWP. Only reason for this is I think it gives us more muscle.......1-1 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
jimmer42 Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Not a bad call....I think I’d have Romeu in for Armstrong sitting in the defensive pairing with Hojbjerg and Lemieux slightly further forward with JWP. Only reason for this is I think it gives us more muscle.......1-1 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk That should read Lemina......bloody predictive text Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Unfortunately the table doesn’t lie and they are a better team than us. Deeney out will swing it slightly for us, but probably not enough. As said above, they are a brutish horrible side and at home the Ref will give them all the calls. Need to maximise our strength in midfield with Hojberg, Lemina and Armstrong...Romeu on for Armstrong later for more bite if necessary. Whether Long or Ings...not sure...it’s going to be a hard slog all day for us up top. Result? 3-1 loss.
Batman Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Gunn Valery Vest Yoshida Bertrand Rom Hoj Lemina Armstrong Ings Redmond
nta786 Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Gunn Valery Bednarek Yoshida Vestegaard Bertrand JWP Romeu PEH Redmond Long This is my prediction for what Ralph will play. Personally I would prefer a 4231, with Sims and Redmond on the wings, Armstrong in the hole, and Ings/Long up top- don't want to risk Ings if it will screw him over for game against Bournemouth. In terms of centrebacks, then definitely drop Stephens, and I'd probably start Yoshida with Bednarek tbh, haven't really liked Vestergaard in a back 4. I am really looking forward to this one, as I do with all London away games, if you classify Watford in London that is. We need to rectify the last two injustices we have had against Watford- we had the Austin goal disallowed start of this season, and this fixture last season they had the handball. So, 1-0 Saints. Redmond to score.
Saint Ian Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Yes. Watford are basically a team of thugs. We desperately need the ref onside. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Not sure it'll help our chances much. It looks like the referee is Mike Dean...
Bad Wolf Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Armstrong is essential for this game IMO. As others have pointed out, Watford are going to be very physical and his time in Scotland will help with this. Also, they're solid defensively and he's about the only player who can play a defence splitting pass against these teams.
Bad Wolf Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 F*ck me, we lose one game and suddenly we’re a terrible team? Hopefully we will have at least one of Valery and Vestergaard back. If we can move JWP into midfield it should make us a bit more solid. Keep it tight for the first hour or so (unlike yesterday) then see if we can snatch something. We've been a terrible team for about 3 years now. We just have a manager who's currently making us look better than we are. Please don't tell me you buy into this "With the players we have, we shouldn't be down here" crap?
K,Billy's supersound Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 1-2 Win. With the players we have, we shouldn't be down here.
Wade Garrett Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Gunn Valery Vest Yoshida Bertrand Rom Hoj Lemina Armstrong Ings Redmond That formation, would probably play Bednarek instead of Yoshida.
striker Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 I think Ings sits for this. I expect Long to start with Austin in around minute 70. Hopefully Big V and Valery are back. I'm hoping for a point out of this, then beat The Cherries and Hudds. That puts us at 43 pts.
Cabrone Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 With the right attitude we can get a win there. Let's just get the 3 points and put this season to bed.
Avenue_Saint Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Gunn Valery Vest Yoshida Bertrand Rom Hoj Lemina Armstrong Ings Redmond I would play this with maybe Bednarek in for Yoshida. Having said that Yoshida makes some decent runs forward and as we’ve seen contributes to some real opportunities. One has to go in one of these days!
benjii Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Gunn Bednarek Yoshida Vestergaard Valery Hojbjerg Lemina Bertrand Armstrong Redmond Ings If Vestergaard isn't fit then play Bertrand in his position and bring Targett in.
Dusic Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 Be amazed if Ings starts this with Bournemouth to come on Saturday. Long will start I think.
Saint_lambden Posted 22 April, 2019 Posted 22 April, 2019 With Valery and Vestergaard sounding unlikely to make it, I'd go with: Gunn Ramsey Bednarek Yoshi Bertrand Hoj Romeu Lemina Redmond Armstrong Long Save JWP and Ings for Bournemouth. Lemina and Armstrong did enough 2nd half on Saturday to warrant a start here.
benjii Posted 23 April, 2019 Posted 23 April, 2019 Be amazed if Ings starts this with Bournemouth to come on Saturday. Long will start I think. Good point, I forgot he was fragile. Yeah, start Long.
hasper57saint Posted 23 April, 2019 Posted 23 April, 2019 We'll need both muscle and tenacity for this one. They really are a very physical side. However, they can be beaten and I sincerely hope Mike Dean doesn't play as their twelf man. So many times we have been let down by bad/favourite decisions. I'll accept a draw but a win would make me happy.
Batman Posted 23 April, 2019 Posted 23 April, 2019 Although going down is highly unlikely, 1 more point would be vital (from our remaining games) and tonight would be a good time to get it. That would put us 6 points clear of Cardiff with a vastly superior goal difference. They would then need to win 2 of their 3 games and then needing at least a point in the other. That is on the basis we only gain 1 more points from the last 4 games.....you never know
DT Posted 23 April, 2019 Posted 23 April, 2019 If there was a banker home win to add to accumulators, this is probably it. Just think though: a win and we're safe. Please god...
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