SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 OK... don't take this too seriously but... If we win every one of our remaining games we would have 51 points. Every team from seventh place down has achieved an average of less than one and a half points per game. On that basis winning every game would most likely find us finishing in at least 11th place and possibly higher! If the teams already in the top half of the table keep up their form from the rest of the season we wouldn't catch them and looking at their fixtures it would be quite unlikely (quite aside from the unlikelihood of us winning every match!) but for those that like to look at these things, here are the remaining fixtures of those currently placed between 7th and 10th: Watford: Arsenal (H), Huddersfield (A), Saints (H), Wolves (H), Chelsea (A), West Ham (H) Everton: Man Utd (H), C.Palace (A), Burnley (H), Spurs (A) Wolves: Brighton (H), Arsenal (H), Watford (A), Fulham (H), Liverpool (A) Leicester: West Ham (A), Arsenal (H), Man City (A), Chelsea (H) If we were to catch any of those it would most likely be either Everton or Leicester and their superior goaldifference would also add an extra obstacle!! On a more serious note, how high can we finish? Personally I think we could possibly finish as high as thirteenth and would love it if we could finish above Bournemouth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 If we had done the double over Cardiff instead of the other way round we'd have a good chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 14 April, 2019 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2019 If we had done the double over Cardiff instead of the other way round we'd have a good chance We could probably say that for quite a few fixtures! It just goes to show that a full season with Hassenhuttl could see us returning to being a team that is competing for that 'best of the rest' 7th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 we probably wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 I would be surprised i if we were to finish any higher than 13th now, but you never know. None of us expected that Koeman team to win the last 4 games and sneak into 6th in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 We won’t be top half but we do have a game against West Ham, Newcastle and Bournemouth who are all within striking distance. Where we end up will be largely down to the head to head in those ‘mid table obscurity’ 6 pointers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 One more win and players will be on the beach. I'll be glad to be mathematically safe. Then fingers crossed for a positive summer rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 Nah, were identical to Swansea, in free fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 Nah, were identical to Swansea, in free fall. and Hassenhutl is a **** poor manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 Id love it if we got to 46 points this season... Matching Puel. I think that'd really set down a marker for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 One more win and players will be on the beach. I'll be glad to be mathematically safe. Then fingers crossed for a positive summer rebuild To be fair, the team has a target of 40 points. When (if) they reach that, of course they'll down tools. Either that or they'll destroy Huddersfield on the last day 8-0 ... Saints are weird, always have been. Love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 April, 2019 Share Posted 14 April, 2019 Nah, we'll probably finish somewhere between 14th-16th. Highest I think you'll see us is 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 15 April, 2019 Share Posted 15 April, 2019 If we beat Newcastle by 10 goals we'd climb above Palace into 13th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 15 April, 2019 Share Posted 15 April, 2019 Anything is possible under Ralph in my opinion. I think we could even target finishing somewhere between 9th-12th. We have to play some of the teams directly above us too. The higher we finish up the more PL prize money to add to the summer transfer budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 15 April, 2019 Share Posted 15 April, 2019 If we beat Newcastle by 10 goals we'd climb above Palace into 13th! Suppose it would make Sunderland feel better if we beat Newcastle by 10 not 8 and it's away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 15 April, 2019 Share Posted 15 April, 2019 Some of these posts are far too optimistic for this foreham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 To be fair, the team has a target of 40 points. When (if) they reach that, of course they'll down tools. Either that or they'll destroy Huddersfield on the last day 8-0 ... Saints are weird, always have been. Love them. I can't see Ralph accepting a 'down tools' approach in any shape or form! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 Some of these posts are far too optimistic for this foreham. Well that makes a pleasant change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 I think I would rather go for an under the radar finish. Anything too spectacular, and we will have other clubs sniffing around Ralph......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 Personally I think we could possibly finish as high as thirteenth and would love it if we could finish above Bournemouth! That's certainly achievable. We're currently 5 points behind them but with a game in hand and they have to come to St Mary's. Win both of those and we are above them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 Looking at the table only the top 6 have a decent positive goal difference in at least double figures. 2 others have a 1 and 2 positive GD I think this shows what an unequal league this is and for most teams avoiding relegation is the only realistic goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 Looking at the table only the top 6 have a decent positive goal difference in at least double figures. 2 others have a 1 and 2 positive GD I think this shows what an unequal league this is and for most teams avoiding relegation is the only realistic goal. I do think it will be more interesting next season with the top six, Chelsea maybe losing their best players, Liverpool's players will be coveted by bigger clubs than them, Spurs adapting to a new stadium potentially without Poch, United finding their feet under Solskjaer maybe without Rashford and Pogba, depending on the outs, the top 6 could shrink next season and you may find one or two of them in with the common crowd! We can hope. I have Saints finishing 14th this season, I stick by that for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 I do think it will be more interesting next season with the top six, Chelsea maybe losing their best players, Liverpool's players will be coveted by bigger clubs than them, Spurs adapting to a new stadium potentially without Poch, United finding their feet under Solskjaer maybe without Rashford and Pogba, depending on the outs, the top 6 could shrink next season and you may find one or two of them in with the common crowd! We can hope. I have Saints finishing 14th this season, I stick by that for now. IF Chelsea lose Hazard, which is looking likely, then I'd probably nominate them as the most likely of the big 6 to potentially have a bad season. He has 16 goals and 12 assists this year, pretty much half all the goals scored are down to Hazard. Realistically they are not going to replace him, no player that level is going to go to them and Abramovich seems to be spending less of the cash as well. I doubt Pulisic will step up considering he's not exactly a first teamer at Dortmund. Man Utds a maybe but they can realistically go out and spend like £250 million if they want, even if they lose Pogba and Rashford. I doubt many will leave pool, maybe VVD if one of Real or Barca came knocking, he might throw a wobbly but if they win the league or just miss out can't see them leaving. Hard for any team to close that gap I reckon, we'd need to have to an exceptional season and one of them to have a bad one. But I reckon we are probably as likely as anyone else based on our performances under Ralph, a young improving team, a full pre-season of Ralf working on them as well, and hopefully some key signings, who knows? I think this season getting ahead of Bournemouth, Palace, Burnley and Newcastle would be a decent achievement, looking at our fixtures they are all winnable so its possible, it would be great to look at the season and end up comfortably clear of the bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 I do think it will be more interesting next season with the top six, Chelsea maybe losing their best players, Liverpool's players will be coveted by bigger clubs than them, Spurs adapting to a new stadium potentially without Poch, United finding their feet under Solskjaer maybe without Rashford and Pogba, depending on the outs, the top 6 could shrink next season and you may find one or two of them in with the common crowd! We can hope. I have Saints finishing 14th this season, I stick by that for now. For me, every season it's Arsenal that look like they have the ability to "implode" and have (by top 6 standards) a terrible season. And every year they have a few games to give me hope it's happening but always seem to recover and finish the season strongly. Maybe next year could be the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 I think I would rather go for an under the radar finish. Anything too spectacular, and we will have other clubs sniffing around Ralph......... Not that soon. But what I would be worried about, if we finish strongly, is that Gao would think our squad was strong enough without having to spend a penny in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 Not that soon. But what I would be worried about, if we finish strongly, is that Gao would think our squad was strong enough without having to spend a penny in the summer. Hasn't Ralph already said that he is expecting new players in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 (edited) Gao would think our squad was strong enough Depending on what you mean by "strong enough" then Goa may well be correct coming to that conclusion... Under Hassenhuttl, we are currently 'strong enough' for 7th or 8th. Yes, I know that clubs have to improve the squad to even stand still these days, but the bottom line is that we're not a million miles away from being 'strong enough' to reach the premier league glass ceiling as things stand. (That doesn't mean that I don't want us to improve the quality of the squad during the transfer window btw) Edited 16 April, 2019 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 April, 2019 Share Posted 16 April, 2019 Hasn't Ralph already said that he is expecting new players in? He said that in January as well. Depending on what you mean by "strong enough" then Goa may well be correct coming to that conclusion... Under Hassenhuttl, we are currently 'strong enough' for 7th or 8th. Yes, I know that clubs have to improve the squad to even stand still these days, but the bottom line is that we're not a million miles away from being 'strong enough' to reach the premier league glass ceiling as things stand. (That doesn't mean that I don't want us to improve the quality of the squad during the transfer window btw) What about injuries/suspensions? We are desperately short up front (and have been for years), and also at RB. If (when) Ings gets injured again we are relying on Long, Austin and kids. We got away with it for the last couple of months, but it would be insane to do this for the whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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