OttawaSaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 I don't get it. Anyone care to explain it to me? We struck out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Embarrassing coverage from Sky, Carragher running across the pitch to interview his heroes. Pathetic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The " SPITTING " ***** should not even have a job !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Why not keep two players back? Salah could have then been taken out when he received the ball. We are so easy to counter attack. Yeah was foolhardy. We were going for the win I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 We struck out? Ah, OK! So that's what that looks like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Was sat directly in line with Salah and he was clearly offside in the build up to the scrappy equaliser ! It should never have stood and could well have changed the balance of the game ! Also close to the Van Dyck foul which was given the other way when Sims broke clear ! Two atrocious decisions given by an extremely cr@p linesman ! Grrr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Meanwhile, back on sky, they are still droning on and on about liverpool, would you believe. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk This, absolutely vomit inducing from Liverpool TV. Really sucked having Carragher commentating. By the way criticisms of Bertie defending are wide of the mark, did all he could, text book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 April, 2019 Author Share Posted 5 April, 2019 I don't get it. Anyone care to explain it to me? The buzzword before the game was this being a 'free swing'. In the end it was a swing and a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Second goal was a killer at 1-1 on 80 minutes why commit so many forward on a corner? Up to that point Liverpool had looked pretty average and didn't really look like breaking us down and then we gifted them a goal... Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 The buzzword before the game was this being a 'free swing'. In the end it was a swing and a miss. Um, OK then. Thanks!......I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Annoying not to damage their title hopes after playing well, but tbf they absorbed our early pressure after going behind and started to dominate. Said to my mate "we might nick one on the break as thy pour forward" next minute they scored as we poured forward. Hey ho,we're gonna be alright and if the dippers do win it credit is due, they've lost once all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 We were competitive and Ralph is doing a great job with what for the most part is a limited squad of players. Love to know how many goals we have conceded on the break from our own corner over the past two seasons, far too many that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Yosh , Valery and Vestergaard were very good defensively Bertie just a bit scared it seems. Take Mane out and they are very average he is class Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 I don't get it. Anyone care to explain it to me? Free hit. We swung, and missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Wasn’t it Bertrand running back, not Valery? Really should have made a challenge Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He was 2 against 1 and tried his best to hold Salah up and try to force him onto his weaker foot, similar to what VVD did last week....it was an excellent finish by Salah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 He was 2 against 1 and tried his best to hold Salah up and try to force him onto his weaker foot, similar to what VVD did last week....it was an excellent finish by Salah[/quote[emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Thought we did about as well as we could with the squad we have. Bring on the summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Not disheartened at all by that, thought there were some really good performances on our side and that we had a good tactical plan that we stuck to pretty well throughout. Only disappointment for me was in the way we conceded that second goal. You just shouldn't get so easily exposed from your own corner. As someone else pointed out, that's happened a few times this season so there's something wrong in the positioning of our players in that situation that is leaving us too open. Apart from that thought we were very good tonight and you would expect us to pick up a decent amount of points between now and season end if we keep up that level. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Why oh why did we overcommit on that corner.. was looking good for a point.. Hojbjerg was absolutely superb first half.. I actually think when Redmond went up front we lost major control of the game. He doesn't seem strong enough to hold the ball up. Probably one of the best games I've seen from vestergaard too. All in all we done pretty well but disappointing a couple of moments cost us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Thought the ref was decent Tbf. He couldn't give the Salah offside without lino flagging and was literally inches in it. Did us a favor with the Yoshida foul as that was a definite penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Thought the ref was decent Tbf. He couldn't give the Salah offside without lino flagging and was literally inches in it. Did us a favor with the Yoshida foul as that was a definite penalty. Poor effort there. Never a pen. Go back to counting days since we beat a top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 I think the reality was that we were always going to lose, they are just too good for the squad we have. But, we lost in the right way in the sense that we gave them a game, we gave them a fright and didn't make it easy at all. We are working so much harder under Ralph, that's evident to see. Our shape is better and we are more organised on the pitch. Quality wise, he can only work with what he's got and there are still glaring holes in the team which need fixing if we want to continue moving in the right direction. I like Bednerak and Vesterguard has grown into the side, but I think we need someone else with a bit of power and pace through the middle of the 3. Valery is good, but raw. Defends well, but doesn't offer much of an outlet in an attacking sense. I think we will still look to add a new RB in the summer, well I hope so at least. Need some power and presence up top, and I think we could give most teams a game. Ralph knows what he's doing and I'm pretty confident he knows what he needs. Roll on next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumsaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 When I saw Bednarek up for that corner I thought "**** we're going for it, hope we don't regret this!" Then Salah picked the ball up and ran in a straight line with nobody challenging him until he stuck it away and I just felt sick. I suppose it's good that we don't just settle for a point against title challengers, but a point would have been a great result and we lost it through poor decisions on defending at the end of the game. We didn't really look like scoring in the second half, but neither did they until we presented it to them. Ralph's done an amazing job to take us this far with the squad we have, but the attacking options need a complete overhaul in order to compete for a top half place, let alone Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Thought the ref was decent Tbf. He couldn't give the Salah offside without lino flagging and was literally inches in it. Did us a favor with the Yoshida foul as that was a definite penalty. Poor effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 criticisms of Bertie defending are wide of the mark, did all he could, text book. I was concerned about Bertram in the second half because he didn't look well to me; when he took an age to take that throw in (the first one, not the one he was booked for later) he looked like he was feeling really ill, didn't look right at all; so when I saw it was him trying to stop Salah I knew we were in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Poor effort there. Never a pen. Go back to counting days since we beat a top 6. Wow, very weak. Still he probably ended up with $3400 to go on a lovely weekend with the lads, hotel website pictures included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 We lost but look at this place, we are once again excited by Saints football and full of optimism. Ralph has done a marvellous job. He’s learning too. Was a tough choice, try and shut up shop for a 1-1 or go for it. Glad he went for it at 1-2 too, showed our ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 I was concerned about Bertram in the second half because he didn't look well to me; when he took an age to take that throw in (the first one, not the one he was booked for later) he looked like he was feeling really ill, didn't look right at all; so when I saw it was him trying to stop Salah I knew we were in trouble. Not sure he could do a lot in that situation to be honest, he was left 2 on 1. If he committed himself to tackle Salah, he would have just slid Firmino in with a clear run to goal. The more key problem was why we left ourselves that open to allow a 2 on 1 from our own corner. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Liverpool have won 16 points from losing positions this season, the most in the division. Southampton have now lost 23 points from leading positions, more than anyone else. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 We lost but look at this place, we are once again excited by Saints football and full of optimism. Ralph has done a marvellous job. He’s learning too. Was a tough choice, try and shut up shop for a 1-1 or go for it. Glad he went for it at 1-2 too, showed our ambition. Yup!!! Ii said in the match thread that I was excited and hopeful every time we got the ball, and that I had not had that feeling for years! .......Of course, it went boobs up after they got their second, and it became more clear that they were the better team, but hey,.... I was excited!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Did anyone else notice Koop standing near the centre circle about 30 minutes before kickoff? He spent a long time watching our players warming up. Tactical reasons or looking for new talent for the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Did anyone else notice Koop standing near the centre circle about 30 minutes before kickoff? He spent a long time watching our players warming up. Tactical reasons or looking for new talent for the summer? Does it every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 April, 2019 Share Posted 5 April, 2019 Hw overweight was that lino? Professional my arse. Needed lose a couple of stone the slow fcker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 We end Salah's 8 game dry spell. Who would've predicted it? Oh shit, Salah hasn't scored for 8 matches. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47805203 We all know what happens on Friday. You can bet your house on it. Oh well, it was a free hit. For the most part the boys played very well and more than matched them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 Excellent performance from Saints. We outplayed them for long periods of that game. It certainly showed how far we've come under RH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 In the end, they played very well and they will know it. No problems going forward as far as confidence goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 We played well and we are much improved. However Liverpool did dominate the 2nd half. They had most of the possession, and ran through out midfield. I don't think we did enough to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 The key moment was the chance Long had for two nil. One goal was always unlikely to be enough but we did enough in the first half to get a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 The key moment was the chance Long had for two nil. One goal was always unlikely to be enough but we did enough in the first half to get a second. Exactly this. At 2-0 we put on Stephens and hold on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 Thought we gave a really good account of ourselves there. The pressing in the first half was brilliant to see. Tired in the second half but we are playing a Liverpool team that's as good as I've seen in over a decade and title contenders. A full pre season with Ralph and a couple of smart signings and we should be top half next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 Thought the ref was decent Tbf. He couldn't give the Salah offside without lino flagging and was literally inches in it. Did us a favor with the Yoshida foul as that was a definite penalty. still showing yourself to be a pen absolute c u n t still the Glasgow? Have you actually ever been to a saints game, seems unlikely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianC Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 Unfortunately this was another game where our lack of fitness caught up with us. It wasn't a lack of fitness so much as after the hour mark, our players had to wade through the jizz that Carragher was spaffing all over the place, they found it extremely hard going. I've never known such a one sided, biased commentary. Why Sky employ that odious little turd to commentate on Liverpool matches beggars belief. He should be nowhere near their matches and bring in an impartial 'expert'. Ruined the match for me far more than the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singapore Saint Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 I don't get it. Anyone care to explain it to me? They missed and we dropped the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 I thought we were excellent. Lack of sub options hampered us and the game swung on the Salah goal which was well taken but avoidable beforehand. We have become a good side but need some quality in attack to give RH more options. Exactly this, the stupidity of leaving one at the back to deal with their front three when we were pressing really high after HT at 1-1 was the turning point and inexcusable, smacking of indiscipline from over confidence. Ralph was fuming and rightly so. What is there to Liverpool except unimaginative square passing in defence with eventual long hopeful balls into the box either from our nemesis or from the left wing? Man City are much the better and more attractive footballing side and for that alone deserve the title despite fears of hegemony. Last night for the first half hour we were by far the better footballing side and it was a sickeningly disappointing result at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 Typical. Keita’s first goal, Salah’s first since Feb, Henderson’s first in eons. Yeah, them scoring was a rare event. Who was it that scored our goal again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 Was sat directly in line with Salah and he was clearly offside in the build up to the scrappy equaliser ! It should never have stood and could well have changed the balance of the game ! Also close to the Van Dyck foul which was given the other way when Sims broke clear ! Two atrocious decisions given by an extremely cr@p linesman ! Grrr.... Looked to me that the referee, when the lino flagged, thought it was a foul on Saints and showed the play on arm gesture (which it was) but the lino must have told him on the mic that it was a foul on Liverpool. Their 2nd goal was a sickener and very naïve, why commit so many players forward for a corner against a side like Liverpool at that stage of the match when a point for us is more valuable than Liverpool. I just knew when the Saints attacking subs were made that it would result in Liverpool goal not a Saints one. Other than that a good performance overall but just knew as normal that we wouldn't get over the line. P.S. Why does the website keep jumping around? Makes it very hard to type anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 We played well and we are much improved. However Liverpool did dominate the 2nd half. They had most of the possession, and ran through out midfield. I don't think we did enough to win. Since Ralph took over practically every team has more possession against us but Liverpool never looked like opening us up I was surprised how poor their attack was. Mane was their main dangerous outlet and even his final ball was awful. We didn't do enough to win in the second half but a draw would have been a good result for us and achievable until we threw everyone up for the corner with 10 minutes to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 (edited) As most have said, gave a good account of ourselves against what is (extremely annoyingly) a very good Liverpool side. Even if they aren't League champions (and I 4ucking hope not) they'll get about 90 points this season so you can't deny they're good. Just very annoying salah scores that goal after the run he's been on (it was a perfect finish). The corner thing is annoying. It wasn't so much the starting positions, it was the naivety of those near the edge of the area getting over excited and sucked in when it became a bit ping pong like on the edge of the area. They saw a sniff of something exciting happening, abandoned their posts and then, along with most of the stadium, that sudden realisation of sh1t, this is big trouble. 5 seconds and a perfect finish later and we've lost the game. No issue with the third, we twisted and went bust. I was almost in line with salah for the offside, it looked tight so can accept the lino getting that wrong, but it obviously changed the game. And the sims incident was dreadful; other than that, not much to moan about the officials for really. Wrong end to see Keita, have heard different opinions on whether it was a pen or not. In terms of players, compared to their potential standard think just about everybody gave a good account of themselves. Romeu was a bit meh, and jwp is simply not effective wide right, even in that formation. He was fine, just not great. Defenders all did well, Valery continues to develop and Redmond was very good. Hoj probably motm for me. Trouble was the subs. Basically nothing on offer to change and improve things. Long was tired but only option was what he did, Austin couldn't lead a line alone for half an hour, nor Gallagher I'd suggest, so sims (or Armstrong) on and Redmond up was all he could do. Armstrong was about to come on before the goal, but probably just for fresh legs. Of course, the goal meant a double swap and a change of plans so can't really judge this. Unfortunately, can't think of anything much else he could have done to improve things given the players available. The squad is massively short of depth, especially for attacking options, so well done to those that played and performed, and here's hoping it's improved in the summer. It was a free hit, so no harm done and certainly our confidence shouldn't be damaged by that. Just a shame to get no rewards for a good performance, plus I really don't like Liverpool. Edited 6 April, 2019 by Chewy Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 Looked to me that the referee, when the lino flagged, thought it was a foul on Saints and showed the play on arm gesture (which it was) but the lino must have told him on the mic that it was a foul on Liverpool. Their 2nd goal was a sickener and very naïve, why commit so many players forward for a corner against a side like Liverpool at that stage of the match when a point for us is more valuable than Liverpool. I just knew when the Saints attacking subs were made that it would result in Liverpool goal not a Saints one. Other than that a good performance overall but just knew as normal that we wouldn't get over the line. P.S. Why does the website keep jumping around? Makes it very hard to type anything! The linesman was flagging for a foul to Liverpool. The usual practice is to waggle the flag above your head but to hold it in the hand on the side that you think should get the free kick. That way the referee can decide whether to play advantage. I didn’t see the ref give such a signal though. It was a weird situation. I’m surprised that nobody has mentioned that incident where the ref gave a goal kick but then changed his mind after protests from the Liverpool players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 I think the reality was that we were always going to lose, they are just too good for the squad we have. But, we lost in the right way in the sense that we gave them a game, we gave them a fright and didn't make it easy at all. We are working so much harder under Ralph, that's evident to see. Our shape is better and we are more organised on the pitch. Quality wise, he can only work with what he's got and there are still glaring holes in the team which need fixing if we want to continue moving in the right direction. I like Bednerak and Vesterguard has grown into the side, but I think we need someone else with a bit of power and pace through the middle of the 3. Valery is good, but raw. Defends well, but doesn't offer much of an outlet in an attacking sense. I think we will still look to add a new RB in the summer, well I hope so at least. Need some power and presence up top, and I think we could give most teams a game. Ralph knows what he's doing and I'm pretty confident he knows what he needs. Roll on next season. Very good post and mirrors my view. The Glasgow troll was back because we lost, how predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 6 April, 2019 Share Posted 6 April, 2019 The linesman was flagging for a foul to Liverpool. The usual practice is to waggle the flag above your head but to hold it in the hand on the side that you think should get the free kick. That way the referee can decide whether to play advantage. I didn’t see the ref give such a signal though. It was a weird situation. I’m surprised that nobody has mentioned that incident where the ref gave a goal kick but then changed his mind after protests from the Liverpool players. I was just coming on to see if anyone saw this, definitely no flag from the lino, ref clearly pointed to goal kick and then after Henderson got in his face he gave a corner. Bizarre. As for the Van Dijk incident, yes the referee ran with his arms out saying advantage to Saints before calling it back for a foul on Van Dijk. Another very strange, extremely weak referee in this pool of absolute hopelessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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