SuperSAINT Posted 3 June, 2019 Share Posted 3 June, 2019 He was rumoured to be on 12k/week. With a fee of £22m. The damage is done regardless. Typo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 3 June, 2019 Share Posted 3 June, 2019 Board bottling it........ Personally we **** up this window like we did Jan, Ralph won't hang about. I totally agree with you. Little snippets of information feel like they’re going back on their word & promises to Ralph and I hope I am wrong because, as you say, he won’t hang around and there will be a number of clubs more than willing to back him up with a transfer kitty from the television money or their past player sales. A man of his calibre won’t wait long. He will go on and get some other Premier League club into the top six and we will moan but we deserve all we get. Since Cortese left, so did our ambition. We went back to the days of being mediocre & incompetent FC. The feeder club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya's Dad Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 hardly surprising that saints will struggle to get deals over the line till nearer the end of the window. players will only look at the money on the table and the success (****show) of the club in recent years and think they can get a better deal at another club. the club have always struggled to sign big players early on exactly for this reason. dont know why some expect different all of a sudden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Don't think this will impact us if we are looking to business with Leipzig too much (unless yhe players he didnt like decide to remain) but Rangwick has resigned at RB and will now become boss of Red Bull football. https://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/750264/artikel_rangnick-verlaesst-rb-leipzig-und-wird-fussball-chef-bei-red-bull.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Don't think this will impact us if we are looking to business with Leipzig too much (unless yhe players he didnt like decide to remain) but Rangwick has resigned at RB and will now become boss of Red Bull football. https://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/750264/artikel_rangnick-verlaesst-rb-leipzig-und-wird-fussball-chef-bei-red-bull.html Has been known and in the pipeline for a year. Nagelsmann is taking over. Id imagine, given the time in what it has been known he will be manager, both players and manager will have a good idea of who is/isn’t wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Has been known and in the pipeline for a year. Nagelsmann is taking over. Id imagine, given the time in what it has been known he will be manager, both players and manager will have a good idea of who is/isn’t wanted.Ah got you you, thought he was just moving back upstairs to his original role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Fulham want Targett again according to SSN. Personally I think somehwere around £12m would represent a fair deal. Just don't think he is quite up to PL level as he lacks that yard of pace, especially in a back four and that is unlikely to change. Ultimately every time Bertrand returns after injury it massively improves us and Targett needs regular football which we can't give him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Certainly wouldn't be sad to see him go. Sellable asset, £12-15m I'd struggle to reject. Interested to see what we'd do in that position though if he was to leave. Is Vokins good enough yet to fill in if Bertie gets injured? Questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Fulham want Targett again according to SSN. Personally I think somehwere around £12m would represent a fair deal. Just don't think he is quite up to PL level as he lacks that yard of pace, especially in a back four and that is unlikely to change. Ultimately every time Bertrand returns after injury it massively improves us and Targett needs regular football which we can't give him. Don't think Bertrand improved us at all when he came back... still living off his form a couple of years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Don't think Bertrand improved us at all when he came back... still living off his form a couple of years ago This I would agree with. I thought Targett did really well when he played: certainly better than Bertrand who has not been in good form for 2 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 I totally agree with you. Little snippets of information feel like they’re going back on their word & promises to Ralph and I hope I am wrong because, as you say, he won’t hang around and there will be a number of clubs more than willing to back him up with a transfer kitty from the television money or their past player sales. A man of his calibre won’t wait long. He will go on and get some other Premier League club into the top six and we will moan but we deserve all we get. Since Cortese left, so did our ambition. We went back to the days of being mediocre & incompetent FC. The feeder club. The old hinting at being ITK whilst actually knowing **** all followed by a vague grim prediction routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Fulham want Targett again according to SSN. Personally I think somehwere around £12m would represent a fair deal. Just don't think he is quite up to PL level as he lacks that yard of pace, especially in a back four and that is unlikely to change. Ultimately every time Bertrand returns after injury it massively improves us and Targett needs regular football which we can't give him. Take it and run. Good player but not top half PL standard if thats our target. Particularly if Vokins is being earmarked as future potential, playing backup to Bertrand will help him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Targett is good enough as second choice and we won't get better than him for that money. Concentrate on improving the areas that we can actually improve - centreback, striker, right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Fulham want Targett again according to SSN. Personally I think somehwere around £12m would represent a fair deal. Just don't think he is quite up to PL level as he lacks that yard of pace, especially in a back four and that is unlikely to change. Ultimately every time Bertrand returns after injury it massively improves us and Targett needs regular football which we can't give him. Speaking to a family member of his, he will go if offered football. Growing frustrated at lack of it at Saints. Good Luck to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Speaking to a family member of his, he will go if offered football. Growing frustrated at lack of it at Saints. Good Luck to him If we sell him to another Prem side I guarantee within half a season people on here will be moaning that he is performing better than bertrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 If we sell him to another Prem side I guarantee within half a season people on here will be moaning that he is performing better than bertrand. They are doing that already. I must go to different games to half the people on here, Tigz is championship level, Bertrand is Premiership. But i think because Bertrand isnt "one of our own" it doesn't matter if he is Prime Ashley Cole, Targett gets a score of 7-10 every game for having "one of our own" attribute. Clown Fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 This I would agree with. I thought Targett did really well when he played: certainly better than Bertrand who has not been in good form for 2 years now. He was going to leave the summer we sacked Puel, but sackings Puel convinced him to stay. We’ve had 2 pathetic managers with lack of any plan in that time and Bertrand (along with everyone else) have looked below par. Bertrand is significantly better than Targett. Target is just slightly too limited to be a PL player, imo. Good luck to him but time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 They are doing that already. I must go to different games to half the people on here, Tigz is championship level, Bertrand is Premiership. But i think because Bertrand isnt "one of our own" it doesn't matter if he is Prime Ashley Cole, Targett gets a score of 7-10 every game for having "one of our own" attribute. Clown Fans. Tigz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 They are doing that already. I must go to different games to half the people on here, Tigz is championship level, Bertrand is Premiership. But i think because Bertrand isnt "one of our own" it doesn't matter if he is Prime Ashley Cole, Targett gets a score of 7-10 every game for having "one of our own" attribute. Clown Fans. Agree with this completely. Bert is a much better player than targett IMO. A lack pace is the missing ingredient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 They are doing that already. I must go to different games to half the people on here, Tigz is championship level, Bertrand is Premiership. But i think because Bertrand isnt "one of our own" it doesn't matter if he is Prime Ashley Cole, Targett gets a score of 7-10 every game for having "one of our own" attribute. Clown Fans. No such thing as the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Fulham want Targett again according to SSN. Personally I think somehwere around £12m would represent a fair deal. Just don't think he is quite up to PL level as he lacks that yard of pace, especially in a back four and that is unlikely to change. Ultimately every time Bertrand returns after injury it massively improves us and Targett needs regular football which we can't give him. Are Championship level full backs going at £12m these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Fulham want Targett again according to SSN. Personally I think somehwere around £12m would represent a fair deal. Just don't think he is quite up to PL level as he lacks that yard of pace, especially in a back four and that is unlikely to change. Ultimately every time Bertrand returns after injury it massively improves us and Targett needs regular football which we can't give him.This. He'll never be quick enough to be a successful full back in the Premier League. Some attributes you just can't compromise on in certain positions. As long as Bertrand is over his lingering back problems (and wants to be here), getting around £15m for a back up player represents decent business. Vokins has regularly been training with the first team since Hasenhuttl came in, and I don't think he's looked any less "ready" to play than Valery did in the u23 games I've seen. Don't forget McQueen should be back to fitness soon, so we wouldn't be entirely in the lurch. Reinvest the money elsewhere, where it's really needed. And it is really needed. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 They are doing that already. I must go to different games to half the people on here, Tigz is championship level, Bertrand is Premiership. But i think because Bertrand isnt "one of our own" it doesn't matter if he is Prime Ashley Cole, Targett gets a score of 7-10 every game for having "one of our own" attribute. Clown Fans. 100% agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 If as we all suspect it is going to be a difficult window in getting rid of the deadwood (Carillo, Hoedt, Forster etc), getting £12-15m for a back-up left back is probably a wise decision; we'll probably need a new LB next summer anyway especially as Bertrand is probably going to be gone, given he'll have a year left. That's only a guess on my part though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 This. He'll never be quick enough to be a successful full back in the Premier League. Some attributes you just can't compromise on in certain positions. As long as Bertrand is over his lingering back problems (and wants to be here), getting around £15m for a back up player represents decent business. Vokins has regularly been training with the first team since Hasenhuttl came in, and I don't think he's looked any less "ready" to play than Valery did in the u23 games I've seen. Don't forget McQueen should be back to fitness soon, so we wouldn't be entirely in the lurch. Reinvest the money elsewhere, where it's really needed. And it is really needed. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Do you really think Fulham will offer £15m for Targett though? That is a remarkable amount of money for championship side [even one with parachutes] to spend on a fullback. They’ll offer us circa £5m with a promo clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Targett is lightweight and average in all departments, apart from crossing where he slightly above average. Would snap Fulham's hand off for anything close to 12mil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 If as we all suspect it is going to be a difficult window in getting rid of the deadwood (Carillo, Hoedt, Forster etc), getting £12-15m for a back-up left back is probably a wise decision; we'll probably need a new LB next summer anyway especially as Bertrand is probably going to be gone, given he'll have a year left. That's only a guess on my part though. Agree. Certainly always thought our young, 'home-grown' players would be easier to shift than some of the people you mentioned. Another aspect of any Targett decision might be what Ralph think's of Vokins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 I think it's time to do the right thing for the player's career. Fulham wanted to buy him for £10M (or was it £15M?) a year ago, but we chose to retain him. He hasn't had the chance (or been able, depending on your viewpoint) to become first choice, so getting 5 games a season is no good for his development. He does need to be first choice somewhere. However, as Labibs comments above, I fear their offer now will be in the range of £5M-10M. At £10M upwards, we should sell him for the player's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Targett is lightweight and average in all departments, apart from crossing where he slightly above average. Would snap Fulham's hand off for anything close to 12mil! He is; one gets the impression that he isn't all that bright, which is maybe the reason he never seems to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 This. He'll never be quick enough to be a successful full back in the Premier League. Some attributes you just can't compromise on in certain positions. As long as Bertrand is over his lingering back problems (and wants to be here), getting around £15m for a back up player represents decent business. Vokins has regularly been training with the first team since Hasenhuttl came in, and I don't think he's looked any less "ready" to play than Valery did in the u23 games I've seen. Don't forget McQueen should be back to fitness soon, so we wouldn't be entirely in the lurch. Reinvest the money elsewhere, where it's really needed. And it is really needed. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk I have never seen young Vokins play. I assume he is quicker than MT at least, but is he a potential "real deal" for us in perhaps a similar trajectory to Luke Shaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Vokins isn't very tall and he's not precisely a unit either. Looks a decent defender on the deck but might struggle a bit in the air. Never seemed a particularly powerful athlete but seemed to be pretty agile and have a good change of pace and a good left foot. He's certainly not another Shaw or even a Valery, but seems to be pretty good on the ball and he takes up good defensive positions for a young player. There's an academy spot on him: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 French press linking us to a midfielder http://sportwitness.co.uk/france-southampton-aston-villa-eyeing-e15m-midfielder/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Makes complete sense to move Targett on if we get a reasonable bid from Fulham imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Jack Stephens is talking to Leeds according to my work colleague who's friends with his dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Jack Stephens is talking to Leeds according to my work colleague who's friends with his dad.That would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 French press linking us to a midfielder http://sportwitness.co.uk/france-southampton-aston-villa-eyeing-e15m-midfielder/ Good little player, would add loads of technicity in our midfield, has a good eye for a pass too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Jack Stephens is talking to Leeds according to my work colleague who's friends with his dad. his Dad is a Leeds fan, his family all Leeds fans and Jack himself is a Leeds fan. Might be true, or might just be a little of 2+2=5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Makes complete sense to move Targett on if we get a reasonable bid from Fulham imo. sell Targett, buy Ryan Sessegnon, or Jamal Lewis, or Justin Jones or anyone with Targett's first touch and Bertrand's pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 his Dad is a Leeds fan, his family all Leeds fans and Jack himself is a Leeds fan. Might be true, or might just be a little of 2+2=5. OUTRAGEOUS, HE SHOULD ONLY SUPPORT SAINTS. GET HIM OUT OF CLUB WITH AUSTIN. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Jack Stephens is talking to Leeds according to my work colleague who's friends with his dad. Wonder if that could be a trade off involving one of their players we were supposedly interested in ( with some £ going their way as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 OUTRAGEOUS, HE SHOULD ONLY SUPPORT SAINTS. GET HIM OUT OF CLUB WITH AUSTIN. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhats Brian Howard up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Whats Brian Howard up to? ... along with Sam Vokes, one of the great Saints supporters never to have played for us after being linked on here year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 (edited) Jack Stephens is talking to Leeds according to my work colleague who's friends with his dad. Please please let this be true. He does follow Leeds on Twitter, one of very few clubs he does actually. So going by that if he leaves and it’s not for Leeds he’s going to Barcelona....or Coventry you heard it here first Edited 4 June, 2019 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Carrillo, Stephens and Targett moving on would be a positive start, although wish them all well. Targett is an excellent Championship full back but pace of the game is very quick in the PL. He’s had some good games but not consistently threatened to unseat Bertrand even though Ryan hasn’t been on top form himself, being a bit frustrated with the last two managers. What’s surprised me is the lack of interest in Cedric. Not sure he’s totally suited to the PL and on a fair old wedge allegedly but less than £10m for a 28 year old Euros winner with lots of top flight experience in today’s market has got to be a worth a punt for a decent club in another league. Boufal Ralph wants to look at but could be another asset who might have buyers. Didn’t do too bad at Celta. I know Sisto didn’t get back in Celta’s side last season, and quite a few fans would have liked to have bought him here. Forster, Moi and Hoedt are going to be a nightmare to shift though. Even Liverpool would struggle to sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 ... along with Sam Vokes, one of the great Saints supporters never to have played for us after being linked on here year after year. Brian was a Rangers Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Brian was a Rangers Fan Now you mention it, I recall that being put on here. If we're solely looking at signing Saints supporters then perhaps its return of Andrew Surman and Wayne Bridge coming out of retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Wonder if that could be a trade off involving one of their players we were supposedly interested in ( with some £ going their way as well). Pontus Jansson. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Daniel Sturridge leaving Liverpool at the end of June when his contract expires. If that hasn't got "West Ham" written all over it then I don't know what does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Pontus Jansson. I was thinking/hoping more of the youngsters linked in recent articles, Phillips or Jack Clarke. Although Jansson has been mentioned over a few transfer windows now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 June, 2019 Share Posted 4 June, 2019 Daniel Sturridge leaving Liverpool at the end of June when his contract expires. If that hasn't got "West Ham" written all over it then I don't know what does. or one for old Roy at Palace..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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