Block 5 Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. He's been a good servant of the club, a true professional and nothing short of an absolute gentleman. These petty and disparaging comments from certain elements within our fanbase are embarrassing in the extreme. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayling Saint Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. He hardly stood out from memory. He's been a good servant. But has never produced as consistently as Clyne did when he was here. If there is someone Ralph likes and wants and Cedric wants to go then it's thanks mate and good luck, for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. He's been a good servant of the club, a true professional and nothing short of an absolute gentleman. These petty and disparaging comments from certain elements within our fanbase are embarrassing in the extreme. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Well said, he’s been a half decent player. Not a great, but pretty decent. Certainly better than some are making out. Doubt I’ll ever see a Saints player picking up a Euro or World Cup winners medal again. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 I always though Cedric's 1v1 defending on the ground was pretty good. He obviously struggles against tall players in the air and can be out-muscled by powerful players like Lukaku but his timing of the tackle was always very good and he rarely got beaten by pace or skill when in position. Going forward he is patchy. His crossing is hit and miss, especially when he delivers on the run. I don't think he's been bad for us, but he's certainly not as much of a threat as Bertrand has been on the other side when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. The 1966 World Cup win was 10 years before Alan Ball joined Saints. At least Terry Paine was a Southampton player when he won the World Cup (although the medal only came in 2009)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 He can also take a mean free kick, when JWP lets him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. He's been a good servant of the club, a true professional and nothing short of an absolute gentleman. These petty and disparaging comments from certain elements within our fanbase are embarrassing in the extreme. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Agreed. I never thought he was as bad as some on this platform make him out to be. He's a decent attacking option (didn't he used to play right wing?) and I see makes some decent tackles during the game. Perhaps there are better defensive and attacking options at right-back out there, and his decision-making has left me exasperated more than once, and I'd be happy to see what other options we can bring in. In the same breath I won't be happy per se that he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Things are bubbling......(just be shocked if anything happens by next week) Well that's not hard given it's only 2 days before next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Well that's not hard given it's only 2 days before next week Are you suggesting Derek Accabbage may be being a bit vague and noncommittal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 The 1966 World Cup win was 10 years before Alan Ball joined Saints. At least Terry Paine was a Southampton player when he won the World Cup (although the medal only came in 2009)... I didn't think it necessary to mention the universally acknowledged fact that Alan Ball wasn't a Saints player when he received his medal, but, as the forum's 'crushing bore in residence', you obviously did. So I shall return the favour, and point out, as per my original post, that Terry Paine didn't actually play in the final, whereas Messrs Soares and Fonte did. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. He's been a good servant of the club, a true professional and nothing short of an absolute gentleman. These petty and disparaging comments from certain elements within our fanbase are embarrassing in the extreme. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk [emoji106][emoji122] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. He's been a good servant of the club, a true professional and nothing short of an absolute gentleman. These petty and disparaging comments from certain elements within our fanbase are embarrassing in the extreme. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Agreed, I am absolutely sick of reading attacks on our own players from our own 'fans'. I come on this site hoping to get some news of a new signing and all I get is criticism of the present players and posters attacking each other. Its a bit sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 I didn't think it necessary to mention the universally acknowledged fact that Alan Ball wasn't a Saints player when he received his medal, but, as the forum's 'crushing bore in residence', you obviously did. So I shall return the favour, and point out, as per my original post, that Terry Paine didn't actually play in the final, whereas Messrs Soares and Fonte did. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk You should know by now that MLG doesn’t do sentiment he only deals in fact. [emoji3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Are you suggesting Derek Accabbage may be being a bit vague and noncommittal? Me? Noooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Agreed, I am absolutely sick of reading attacks on our own players from our own 'fans'. I come on this site hoping to get some news of a new signing and all I get is criticism of the present players and posters attacking each other. Its a bit sad. Isn’t ‘hoping for new signings’ saying the present ones aren’t good enough? Just a twist on the same criticism. Just saying ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. He's been a good servant of the club, a true professional and nothing short of an absolute gentleman. These petty and disparaging comments from certain elements within our fanbase are embarrassing in the extreme. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Yeah only won 1 game in regulation time, drew with mighty countries like Hungary and Austria. They won the european championship like the Greek team won the championship v portugal in2004 - all extra time and penalties. Lets not overblow this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 You should know by now that MLG doesn’t do sentiment he only deals in fact. [emoji3]The same could be said of HAL 9000, and look how that turned out... Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Yeah only won 1 game in regulation time, drew with mighty countries like Hungary and Austria. They won the european championship like the Greek team won the championship v portugal in2004 - all extra time and penalties. Lets not overblow this Whereas England on the other hand... It was a tremendous achievement by a relatively small country, it's ridiculous to belittle their success. They also matched and beat the hosts and favourites in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 No doubting it was a great achievement for Portugal but it doesn’t make Cédric any better as a player. Didn’t Roque Junior win a World Cup, then get relegated with Leeds the following season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiasaint Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Yeah only won 1 game in regulation time, drew with mighty countries like Hungary and Austria. I suspect you left Iceland out of this list for a reason... Cedric will die a champion, not something that can be said for many Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 I suspect you left Iceland out of this list for a reason... Cedric will die a champion, not something that can be said for many Saints. Not sure you know how Saints work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Whereas England on the other hand... It was a tremendous achievement by a relatively small country, it's ridiculous to belittle their success. They also matched and beat the hosts and favourites in the final. Not belittling it, he is a solid pro not the second coming of Dani Alves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Agreed, I am absolutely sick of reading attacks on our own players from our own 'fans'. I come on this site hoping to get some news of a new signing and all I get is criticism of the present players and posters attacking each other. Its a bit sad. Well said. You are not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 I suspect you left Iceland out of this list for a reason... Cedric will die a champion, not something that can be said for many Saints. Hojbjerg, Bertrand and Romeu all Chmapions League winners/champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Agreed, I am absolutely sick of reading attacks on our own players from our own 'fans'. I come on this site hoping to get some news of a new signing and all I get is criticism of the present players and posters attacking each other. Its a bit sad. Hear, Hear! That's at least two of us. The vile abuse of Cedric is a step too far and a new low for so-called Saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Cedric isn't very good, it's quite simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Can't be that close, he is playing for them tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Cedric isn't very good, it's quite simple. That's a matter of opinion, as was the abuse poured on Mane when he was here. That's when I became convinced there are a load of jealous people from down the road on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Decent player Cedric. Don't really understand the abuse, sometimes you only realise what you had once you lose it. I really hope that his replacement is the dogs doodahs or it won't be long before he's getting pelters. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 (edited) He's had 3 terrible managers, but he was also part of our best ever prem finish and won the euros. He's a good player and he has always tried when on the pitch. Some of our fans are a joke, only complaining... and do it all the time. Some perspective please, the vast majority of what has been wrong at saints was due to Reed. He has gone now and things will most certainly improve. The continuous slating of players that try is not required and does the club no favours. Edited 19 January, 2019 by JustMike Removed the stupid comparison to cancer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 I think everyone is aligned on thanking him for his service at 60k a week. Does he think he is better than he is ? Yes I believe so Did have have proper competition for his place ? No Could of be had better managers and improved ? Yes He won't leave a hole like Mane did but he won't be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiasaint Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 Hojbjerg, Bertrand and Romeu all Chmapions League winners/champions. Good point, though I doubt Hojberg and Romeu even refer to themselves as such! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 He's had 3 terrible managers, but he was also part of our best ever prem finish and won the euros. He's a good player and he has always tried when on the pitch. Some of our fans are a joke, only complaining... and do it all the time. Some perspective please, the vast majority of what has been wrong at saints was due to cancer Reed. He has gone now and things will most certainly improve. The continuous slating of players that try is not required and does the club no favours. I agree with you about Cedric, he’s been ok. But Les Reed equals cancer, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 I guess the call from Barcelona has finally come then https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3898005/southamptons-cedric-soares-lined-up-by-barcelona-for-shock-15million-transfer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 January, 2019 Share Posted 18 January, 2019 I guess the call from Barcelona has finally come then https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3898005/southamptons-cedric-soares-lined-up-by-barcelona-for-shock-15million-transfer/ Bit like the Cortese to Milan link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 I guess the call from Barcelona has finally come then https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3898005/southamptons-cedric-soares-lined-up-by-barcelona-for-shock-15million-transfer/ Pffffff, 2017 FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 Yeah only won 1 game in regulation time, drew with mighty countries like Hungary and Austria. They won the european championship like the Greek team won the championship v portugal in2004 - all extra time and penalties. Lets not overblow this So they had a good defense then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 I guess the call from Barcelona has finally come then https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3898005/southamptons-cedric-soares-lined-up-by-barcelona-for-shock-15million-transfer/ I often forget that Jordi Clasie is still on our books... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 I agree with you about Cedric, he’s been ok. But Les Reed equals cancer, really? Indeed a disgusting comment from an obviously horrible human being.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 Indeed a disgusting comment from an obviously horrible human being.. I've edited it, no need for it at all. Will infract next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 Things are bubbling......(just be shocked if anything happens by next week) He's going to West Ham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 He's going to West Ham? HAHA great one back to people slagging players off, quite often it's funny as they only say it to get posts noted & often have no idea of the B0l acks that they post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 Sticky should be removed, indicates deal imminent but both players playing/in squads. Forum has gained credibility over the years by sticking done deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 Sticky should be removed, indicates deal imminent but both players playing/in squads. Forum has gained credibility over the years by sticking done deals. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 Its interesting that Bertrand has dropped his level just as much as Cedric but seems to get far less stick. Always seemed a solid player and was a good signing, his last 18 months have been poor but hes been in a poor team with poor managers. Probably was the best right back outside the top 6 for a good couple of years when we were playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 Its interesting that Bertrand has dropped his level just as much as Cedric but seems to get far less stick. Always seemed a solid player and was a good signing, his last 18 months have been poor but hes been in a poor team with poor managers. Probably was the best right back outside the top 6 for a good couple of years when we were playing well. Because Bertrand is a much better player than Cedric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 January, 2019 Share Posted 19 January, 2019 I see Silva has categorically said there will be no signings in January so that seems to rule out the Cedric move to the toffees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 20 January, 2019 Share Posted 20 January, 2019 Wonder if Arsenal might be in the market now that Bellerin seems likely to be out for months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 January, 2019 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2019 Wonder if Arsenal might be in the market now that Bellerin seems likely to be out for months? Similar moustache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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