nta786 Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 (edited) Sorry if this is posted quickly, but maybe if I start a thread we might win Also, with games coming thick and fast, no time to dwell really, just move on. No PEH, stupidity from him at the end to compound in essence, the worst weekend possible results wise. Honestly, I now no longer know what goes through Ralph's mind, but I'd bring back Vestegaard, and play 3 at the back again. McCarthy Bednarek Vestegaard Yoshida Valery Romeu Lemina Targett Redmond Armstrong Ings having said that, I can't be so sure of fitness for players like Bednarek or Romeu, but I feel Ralph is of the mindset that any players who have no future and will be shipped out do not even seem to make his bench, but with PEH absent maybe Steven Davis should start if one of Romeu/Lemina are not able to. but alas, it's the games against those around us and in the bottom half that will really decide our fate, not free hits like these. my prediction? 2-0 to Chelsea- rogue goalscorer choices in Willian and probably Barkley! Edited 30 December, 2018 by nta786 Giroud injured! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Sorry if this is posted quickly, but maybe if I start a thread we might win Also, with games coming thick and fast, no time to dwell really, just move on. No PEH, stupidity from him at the end to compound in essence, the worst weekend possible results wise. Honestly, I now no longer know what goes through Ralph's mind, but I'd bring back Vestegaard to combat Giroud, as simple as that tactic might sound. McCarthy Bednarek Vestegaard Yoshida Valery Romeu Lemina Targett Redmond Armstrong Ings having said that, I can't be so sure of fitness for players like Bednarek or Romeu, but I feel Ralph is of the mindset that any players who have no future and will be shipped out do not even seem to make his bench, but with PEH absent maybe Steven Davis should start if one of Romeu/Lemina are not able to. but alas, it's the games against those around us and in the bottom half that will really decide our fate, not free hits like these. my prediction? 2-0 to Chelsea- rogue goalscorer choices in Willian and Giroud. Giroud is injured......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 2-0 defeat just hope that fulham lose at arsenal, Burnley lose at huddersfield and spurs do over cardiff horrible run of games complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 2-0 defeat just hope that fulham lose at arsenal, Burnley lose at huddersfield and spurs do over cardiff horrible run of games complete Optimistic. Chelsea won't be at 9 and a half men like City were today. Watched them against the abysmal Palace, just an afternoon off for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Thought we'd lose comfortably today but be a lot tighter at Stamford Bridge. Lets hope so! Yoshi's last game until after the asia cup. McCarthy Bednarek Yoshi Vestergaard Valery Romeu Lemina Bertrand Redmond Armstrong Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 We won’t win. Next. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 We need Hazard to pick up the flu before the game. Hojbjerg a massive miss. Bonus that Giroud & Pedro are injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I think Jan Bednarek is also out. Four bookings before today and then booked in the 73rd min for a pull back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Another training match. No doubt we'll do ok but give the ball away too much and concede two or three really poor goals. Clearing the deadwood and bringing in fresh blood cannot come soon enough. I wish we'll spend too much time trying to con teams into taking our **** players that we won't get a chance to bring anyone decent in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I think Jan Bednarek is also out. Four bookings before today and then booked in the 73rd min for a pull back.I think the cut-off for 5 bookings was the end of the WHU game. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I think the cut-off for 5 bookings was the end of the WHU game. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I think the cut-off for 5 bookings was the end of the WHU game. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk The FA site is ambiguous, but think its after 31 December, not 19 games. Don'think the site would say one away for 4 if the cut off had already passed. Suggest Bednarek won't be available for Chelsea, shame as he had a decent game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I think Jan Bednarek is also out. Four bookings before today and then booked in the 73rd min for a pull back. I'm pretty sure sky said it was his third today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 The FA site is ambiguous, but think its after 31 December, not 19 games. Don'think the site would say one away for 4 if the cut off had already passed. Suggest Bednarek won't be available for Chelsea, shame as he had a decent game today.In the example in the footnote, it says clearly that if a PL player gets a fifth caution in the 20th game, they are not suspended. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I think we will do much better and get a draw. Usual caveat of need a little bit of luck and a referee who can actually see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Unfortunately we seem to get teams when they are bouncing back or have their top players returning. I expected a 'full court press' for Chelsea away...low expectations so let our strongest team have a free run at it - thought we'd be good for a draw hitting them on the break and playing with intensity. With PEH out (stupid lah) I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Another loss, they are different league and have far too much quality for us to handle. If we can keep it respectable it might benefit us later on down the line. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteCampbell Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 McCarthy Valery Bednarek Vestegaard Targett JWP Romeu Lemina Redmond Armstrong Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 McCarthy Valery Bednarek Vestegaard Targett JWP Romeu Lemina Redmond Armstrong IngsNot a bad shout, but I'd put in Yoshida for Lemina. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Sorry if this is posted quickly, but maybe if I start a thread we might win Also, with games coming thick and fast, no time to dwell really, just move on. No PEH, stupidity from him at the end to compound in essence, the worst weekend possible results wise. Honestly, I now no longer know what goes through Ralph's mind, but I'd bring back Vestegaard, and play 3 at the back again. McCarthy Bednarek Vestegaard Yoshida Valery Romeu Lemina Targett Redmond Armstrong Ings having said that, I can't be so sure of fitness for players like Bednarek or Romeu, but I feel Ralph is of the mindset that any players who have no future and will be shipped out do not even seem to make his bench, but with PEH absent maybe Steven Davis should start if one of Romeu/Lemina are not able to. but alas, it's the games against those around us and in the bottom half that will really decide our fate, not free hits like these. my prediction? 2-0 to Chelsea- rogue goalscorer choices in Willian and probably Barkley! ‘No longer know what goes through Ralph’s mind’ You had it nailed then after 3 games but his 4th team selection has scuppered your thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harriesss Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Wonder if Marcus Barnes might be involved, as he can be added to the premier league squad on 1st January, especially if Austin is suspended or anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Need to work on getting a settled side. And kick Hazard a lot, obvs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 McCarthy Valery bednarek vestergaard yoshida Cedric Romeu Davis Redmond ings Armstrong Subs Gunn, targett, Stephens, lemina, gallagher, long, jwp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Is Gallagher anywhere near fit yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Need to work on getting a settled side. And kick Hazard a lot, obvs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sadly Hoj isn't available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Just being honest not trying to slag of Ralph, but freezing out Cedric gabbi and possibly bertrand is weakening the team in the short term. It's all good giving youngsters a chance if they are good enough but valery looks completely out of his depth to me nowhere near the level the likes of shaw and chambers were at when they started playing full back. I have no problem with obafemi on the other hand. If we are gonna go for pace might as well use him as long is pretty much guaranteed not to score. Still winds me up gabbi not getting game time over him and Austin even if he's not in the plans and is going to be sold I don't agree with this decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Just being honest not trying to slag of Ralph, but freezing out Cedric gabbi and possibly bertrand is weakening the team in the short term. It's all good giving youngsters a chance if they are good enough but valery looks completely out of his depth to me nowhere near the level the likes of shaw and chambers were at when they started playing full back. I have no problem with obafemi on the other hand. If we are gonna go for pace might as well use him as long is pretty much guaranteed not to score. Still winds me up gabbi not getting game time over him and Austin even if he's not in the plans and is going to be sold I don't agree with this decision Time will tell. Ralph isn't the first manager to come into the PL and try to turn everything arse over tit, results have been variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Wonder if Marcus Barnes might be involved, as he can be added to the premier league squad on 1st January, especially if Austin is suspended or anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Need to remove someone from the squad list first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Just being honest not trying to slag of Ralph, but freezing out Cedric gabbi and possibly bertrand is weakening the team in the short term. It's all good giving youngsters a chance if they are good enough but valery looks completely out of his depth to me nowhere near the level the likes of shaw and chambers were at when they started playing full back. I have no problem with obafemi on the other hand. If we are gonna go for pace might as well use him as long is pretty much guaranteed not to score. Still winds me up gabbi not getting game time over him and Austin even if he's not in the plans and is going to be sold I don't agree with this decision Why do you assume its Ralph freezing them out, more likely they didn't buy into the plans and have moves lined up so have frozen themselves out. Bertrand is still recovering from injury, nevertheless my understanding is that he is on his way as well, but could be wrong. Really wouldn't be surprised to see one or two early moves once the window opens, both directions, to make places available in the squad, e.g. Barnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Cedric has been poor most of the season & if he's not interested in buying into Ralph's approach it's quite right he's frozen out. Valery has looked good in a number of the games he has played even if he poorer in others. Neither has Gabbi done much to deserve more chances. He's been living off his first few games for us for far too long now. Bertrand is recovering from an operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harriesss Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Need to remove someone from the squad list first. Yes, but they can be added again. For example we could remove Hojbjerg for the month and then add him again at the end of the window. Rose or Forster may be removed though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Wonder if Marcus Barnes might be involved, as he can be added to the premier league squad on 1st January, especially if Austin is suspended or anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The 20 clubs agreed a while ago that anyone registered between now and 3 January can't play in these round of fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 We all could see attitude of the players wasn’t right. Ralph is addressing this and have reliably heard the players love him even though he is mentally strict. Shame that Cedric isn’t on board though. Similarly Gabbi. But it is the mentality of these sort of players that got us in this position so good on Ralph. Transfer door has now ‘swung’ open so would be god to think he had a couple of affordable FBs who would slot nicely into his way of playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Foster Cedric Bert Hoedt Jan Davis JWP Mo Gabbi Long Gallagher All with a point to prove ... (Maybe not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 New Year's Day and the optimism has gone, lose tomorrow and we are back in the bottom three. Three worse teams than ours? I don't think so, Huddersfield maybe but we are no better than the shambles at Fulham & Cardiff and nowhere near Burnley, Newcastle or Brighton. Everton here next, hold onto your hats another drubbing is on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 We all could see attitude of the players wasn’t right. Ralph is addressing this and have reliably heard the players love him even though he is mentally strict. Shame that Cedric isn’t on board though. Similarly Gabbi. But it is the mentality of these sort of players that got us in this position so good on Ralph. Transfer door has now ‘swung’ open so would be god to think he had a couple of affordable FBs who would slot nicely into his way of playing. Ralph must stick to his guns regardless. In the long term it is what the squad needs. We have been complacent for to long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Cedric has been poor most of the season & if he's not interested in buying into Ralph's approach it's quite right he's frozen out. Valery has looked good in a number of the games he has played even if he poorer in others. Neither has Gabbi done much to deserve more chances. He's been living off his first few games for us for far too long now. Bertrand is recovering from an operation. I think one of the issues is the last two games we have far to many players that when they receive the ball the move just breaks down.. the likes of long, elyounoussi valery. We need some quality to go with the pressing and hard work else we are just giving the ball away all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Targett a doubt for tomorrow fortunately. I think I read somewhere Ramsay can play either side so may be he will play LB and Valery RB. Cedric played left back v Utd and did ok so if he doesn't come in at LB that will confirm he is off I think. I can see Yoshida, Stephens and Bednarek starting. Valery and Ramsay as wing backs. Romeu and Lemina in CM. Armstrong, Redmond and Ings. Hopefully Obafemi makes bench as his pace against weary defenders late on could help. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Targett a doubt for tomorrow fortunately. I think I read somewhere Ramsay can play either side so may be he will play LB and Valery RB. Cedric played left back v Utd and did ok so if he doesn't come in at LB that will confirm he is off I think. I can see Yoshida, Stephens and Bednarek starting. Valery and Ramsay as wing backs. Romeu and Lemina in CM. Armstrong, Redmond and Ings. Hopefully Obafemi makes bench as his pace against weary defenders late on could help. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk I would rather see any random player than Lemina, he has had a few chances and been poor every game, no improvement at all, rather have a 50 / 50 chance of a good performance than a 5 / 10 % chances of a good game from Leminam probs get a better performance from forster playing cm than Lemina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Targett a doubt for tomorrow fortunately. I think I read somewhere Ramsay can play either side so may be he will play LB and Valery RB. Cedric played left back v Utd and did ok so if he doesn't come in at LB that will confirm he is off I think. I can see Yoshida, Stephens and Bednarek starting. Valery and Ramsay as wing backs. Romeu and Lemina in CM. Armstrong, Redmond and Ings. Hopefully Obafemi makes bench as his pace against weary defenders late on could help. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk isn't Bednarek suspended ? Sounded that this was the case on 5Live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Jonathan Moss on the Whistle for this one - so miles behind play - assisting Chelsea on the 50/50s, unless we are running the show and his bias switches (when we played Arsenal Boxing Day few years back, Arsenal got every decision at the start then as we got in front and in control the 50/50s became ours - seen him do that in other games too). Mike Dean will be delighted to have been given Huddersfield v Burnley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 I think one of the issues is the last two games we have far to many players that when they receive the ball the move just breaks down.. the likes of long, elyounoussi valery. We need some quality to go with the pressing and hard work else we are just giving the ball away all the time The problem is though that we have not enough support for the man on the ball. This is the main reason we continue to lose procession. The likes of City crowd round the ball when out of pocession and also in procession too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 This game feels like a waste of time really, strong Chelsea side will pick apart our error prone defence , especially when we're playing under 18s and players out of position. The honeymoon period is over for Hassenhuttl, will be interesting to see who comes in if we offload Gabbiadini and Cedric early in the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 JWP starting tomorrow in place of Hoj, same formation, Redmond / Ings and Armstrong back in line up, Maya and Vest starting too if I read the interview on Sky sports correct. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11595202/southampton-manager-ralph-hasenhuttl-sets-challenge-for-james-ward-prowse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint97 Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 If anyone has a spare please let me know, can meet at ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 JWP starting tomorrow in place of Hoj, same formation, Redmond / Ings and Armstrong back in line up, Maya and Vest starting too if I read the interview on Sky sports correct. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11595202/southampton-manager-ralph-hasenhuttl-sets-challenge-for-james-ward-prowseAgree with this. Better option than Lemina at present. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 A midfield two of JWP and Romeu would get massively overrun - both extremely one paced. I hope Lemina is fit to play - he is much better than the two above and this will be a tough game where you need your best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 A midfield two of JWP and Romeu would get massively overrun - both extremely one paced. I hope Lemina is fit to play - he is much better than the two above and this will be a tough game where you need your best players. You either didn’t see Sunday’s game or watched with your eyes closed. He was subbed at half time because he was bloody awful and half @R$ed with it. And in that regard your statement falls flat on its face. Both JWP and Romeu put in far more effective performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Is Gallagher anywhere near fit yet? Back in full training on Monday hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 Giroud injured which is good news for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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