Manuel Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Shame for me that Cedric isn't part of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Valery is raw but has lots of potential and with experience in the long run will develop into a very good player. Cedric has been pretty rubbish for two or more years and thinks he's better than he is, I wouldn't be sorry to see the back of him in January, although we would need to buy a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 29 December, 2018 Author Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Sounds like Kayne Ramsay will get a start at RB tomorrow. Big call when Cedric is fit and available and we are in a poor position. Ralph is unafraid of these decisions, which is great - even if personally Im not sure about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Sounds like Kayne Ramsay will get a start at RB tomorrow. Big call when Cedric is fit and available and we are in a poor position. Ralph is unafraid of these decisions, which is great - even if personally Im not sure about it. Fair point, we are going to lose anyway so may as well maximise the use of the squad for the next week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Sounds like Kayne Ramsay will get a start at RB tomorrow. Big call when Cedric is fit and available and we are in a poor position. Ralph is unafraid of these decisions, which is great - even if personally Im not sure about it. Whoever is left wing for city is captain of my fantasy team if that's the case. If it's Sane or Sterling, they'll murder Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 He really isn't... I agree. Poor to mediocre, not terrible. How on earth will we cope without his pinpoint crossing abilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Against better opposition his lack of height and mediocre pace has really shown up. There’s a myth that he’s pacy but although he has a busy stride pattern, with his lack of height he doesn’t cover as much ground as someone like Clyne would. Remember one of his earlier games and Lukaku absolutely rinsed him on the ground. This is a position Ralph is clearly looking to buy for in Jan. Mentioned earlier that full back will be position for review in and the masterminds on here giggled to themselves like girls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 His agent, every transfer window, has said that big teams like Man Utd and Barcelona want him so let's see what happens. My bet is he will stay with us because nobody wants him. Nobody wants him because he isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Perhaps Cedric will start at left back tomorrow (giving Targett a rest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Even if he's going it would make sense to put him in the shop window and play him against city. Not that I think any off the big clubs are going to be in for him, it would make sense for him to put in a shift well.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Couldn't give a damm can't defend or cross a ball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Against better opposition his lack of height and mediocre pace has really shown up. There’s a myth that he’s pacy but although he has a busy stride pattern, with his lack of height he doesn’t cover as much ground as someone like Clyne would. There is a mere 3cm difference in height between them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 His agent, every transfer window, has said that big teams like Man Utd and Barcelona want him so let's see what happens. My bet is he will stay with us because nobody wants him. Nobody wants him because he isn't very good. Nah he will end up at somewhere like Atletico Madrid, Valencia etc and do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 (edited) Against better opposition his lack of height and mediocre pace has really shown up. There’s a myth that he’s pacy but although he has a busy stride pattern, with his lack of height he doesn’t cover as much ground as someone like Clyne would. 1) It is not a myth. He is quick, he has registered among the highest speeds of any Premier League player. For example... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34884849 2) There is also a tiny difference in height between Clyne and Cedric, a mere 3cm! Edited 29 December, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Based on a few recent interviews, it sure doesn't seem like Ralph is in any hurry to play Cedric, or any of the veterans for that matter. Seems committed to the youngsters who have pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Couldn't give a damm can't defend or cross a ball... Nonsense but it is SWF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 He's seemingly sussed out Cedric and Hoedt in the first month or so he's been here, so that's a huge positive to me. Two of our most unlikable players ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Based on a few recent interviews, it sure doesn't seem like Ralph is in any hurry to play Cedric, or any of the veterans for that matter. Seems committed to the youngsters who have pace. Apart from Bertrand, who is far quicker than Targett and suits Ralph’s style of play. Cedric does seem to be on his way out - let’s see if his very vocal agent can actually back up some of the wild links he has made since the Euros. My hunch is that we could re-start the Southampton Balloon festival based on all of the hot air. Hoedt - just take anything vaguely acceptable the club can salvage for him but will be a loss on the P & L sheet. Lee Todd was worse but a cheapie from Stockport, this buffoon cost £17m from Lazio. How they must have laughed at Les and saw him coming. Safely in Saints worst XI for me. Gabbi - clearly leaving and quite a few clubs interested. Ross should be able to get this over the line early in the new year if he wishes to demonstrate some competence post Les. JWP - doesn’t fit the system or style of play. Thanks for the service. Davis - back to Rangers, thank you so much for the last few years. Forster - a bit like the Rodwell situation at Sunderland last year. Fraser - you’ve made a tonne from the club and a DoF who was on the wane, go and find football now at the level below and rebuild your career. Move on the above and Ralph might have a decent chance of bringing in who he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Like it or not Cedric is the best RB we have at moment and should play, same with Bertrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Indeed, we are in deep do do, need our strongest team to get us out of the shyte Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 .. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Seems like the ones outside the matchday squad ate the ones we’ll have an easier (relatively) time unloading. Some teams will roll the dice on Hoedt, Cedric and Gabbi if the price is right. JWP is a funny one, extremely highly rated but as we know it’s unfounded since he rarely delivers anything. Some club could be tricked into thinking they’re getting the best dead ball striker in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Cedric must really have been phoning it in to slip to being 3rd choice. Good to have a manager who is stirring things up and hope Cedric can be moved on quickly if that’s the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 There is a mere 3cm difference in height between them! “Mere 3 cm” 3cm is a lot mate when you’re reaching for a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Clyne apparently available for loan though other papers have linked him with a permanent move https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/nathaniel-clyne-close-liverpool-loan-13789367 If Cedric goes we could do worse than try and get Clyne back. Unsure if there isn't a rule that would stop us having two players on loan from the same club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Clyne apparently available for loan though other papers have linked him with a permanent move https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/nathaniel-clyne-close-liverpool-loan-13789367 If Cedric goes we could do worse than try and get Clyne back. Unsure if there isn't a rule that would stop us having two players on loan from the same club. Didn't old saggy chops loan about 4 Spurs players to The Skates when they had a Transfer Ban and knocked us out of the Fa Cup at SMS? Of course the answer is null and void as they didn't need to comply with any rules Morally, FA/FL, HMRC or any other rules you could name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Cedric has been pushing for a big move for a while now. Heard a couple of unfounded rumours that he and Hoet were disruptive and "Billy big balls" thinking they're better than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Clyne apparently available for loan though other papers have linked him with a permanent move https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/nathaniel-clyne-close-liverpool-loan-13789367 If Cedric goes we could do worse than try and get Clyne back. Unsure if there isn't a rule that would stop us having two players on loan from the same club. - Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time. - The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time. - Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window. - A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manzo Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 Cedric has been pushing for a big move for a while now. Heard a couple of unfounded rumours that he and Hoet were disruptive and "Billy big balls" thinking they're better than they are.You mean that Hoedt thinks that he's a footballer? Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 You mean that Hoedt thinks that he's a footballer? Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 “Mere 3 cm” 3cm is a lot mate when you’re reaching for a ball. My missus told me that an extra 3 cms can make a lot of difference, and she's not even interested in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 It's a shame that Cedric has fallen out of favour having shown he has a goal threat in him with the free kick v Man Utd the other week. But if he doesn't have the commitment or lungs, required by Ralph to play his high energy game, then best he leaves and we bring someone in who can. (Hoping we can bring the player in though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 We should easily be able to get an upgrade on Cedric. He’s been below average for 2-3 seasons. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 31 December, 2018 Share Posted 31 December, 2018 What’s Cuco up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 1 January, 2019 Share Posted 1 January, 2019 What’s Cuco up to these days? Yes we could do with him up front! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 How did he get on at left-back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 Don’t get Clyne back, having met the bloke a few times, he is a utter ****. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 Average would be my description of his performance which is an upgrade of targett’s poorness last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 Don’t get Clyne back, having met the bloke a few times, he is a utter ****. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Austin comes across a rght tool too but that doesn't make me love his goal against Arsenal any less. We've got too many "nice lads". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 Average would be my description of his performance which is an upgrade of targett’s poorness last game. Average?! He was utter sh1te. Yet again our weak link but he'll get a pass because he's won a European Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 Austin comes across a rght tool too but that doesn't make me love his goal against Arsenal any less. We've got too many "nice lads". Austin is actually a decent bloke, typical tradesman. Clyne is rude, arrogant and thinks he is a rapper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 Austin is actually a decent bloke, typical tradesman. Clyne is rude, arrogant and thinks he is a rapper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk #guntattoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 January, 2019 Share Posted 2 January, 2019 Austin is actually a decent bloke, typical tradesman. Clyne is rude, arrogant and thinks he is a rapper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah Clyne threw litter from his Bentley. Speaks volumes. So many just look back to our old players. Easy to do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 3 January, 2019 Share Posted 3 January, 2019 I didn't realise Cedric was ambidextrous. Crosses with his left just as good as his right. He got lucky tonight as IMO he was playing Morata onside for that disallowed goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 January, 2019 Share Posted 3 January, 2019 I didn't realise Cedric was ambidextrous. Crosses with his left just as good as his right. He got lucky tonight as IMO he was playing Morata onside for that disallowed goal. Just seen a replay where they superimposed a line on the field and Morata was just offside. I though Cedric played him on too. Turns out I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 3 January, 2019 Share Posted 3 January, 2019 Just seen a replay where they superimposed a line on the field and Morata was just offside. I though Cedric played him on too. Turns out I was wrong. Looking at the highlights over here (again), his shoulder was sitting proud of the last defender (Cedric), so a good call by a gutsy Linesman imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 3 January, 2019 Share Posted 3 January, 2019 Give me a disenterested Cedric at left back over Targett any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 January, 2019 Share Posted 3 January, 2019 Don’t get Clyne back, having met the bloke a few times, he is a utter ****. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So are you but we "make allowances" so should you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 3 January, 2019 Share Posted 3 January, 2019 Give me a disenterested Cedric at left back over Targett any day. Give me my dead dog over Cedric any day. Utter turd. Always has been. His pace is slightly above average. That's literally it...Oh and he's taken one good free kick one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 January, 2019 Share Posted 11 January, 2019 Interesting to see him linked with Everton today. Won't take long for us to know if it's legit or not as they have some well briefed journo's in that part of the world. Just out of interest, how are they stacked at right-back? @_pauljoyce: Marco Silva on January transfer window: “For us to do something it will mean someone has to leave the club.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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