Dusic Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 The same player aside from fake tan and a tattoo sleeve? Nice left foot, good cross but dreadful otherwise. Will never take anyone on and get taken to the cleaners by anyone with a little bit of pace. Fox wasn't PL quality and neither is Targett who I can barely remember having a really good game at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Fair comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Targett was hideous tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Both rubbish. So correct Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Targett was hideous tonight. He was. Sadly though, was STILL our best fullback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Thought he was pretty good going forward but was poor defensively ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 The same player aside from fake tan and a tattoo sleeve? Nice left foot, good cross but dreadful otherwise. Will never take anyone on and get taken to the cleaners by anyone with a little bit of pace. Fox wasn't PL quality and neither is Targett who I can barely remember having a really good game at this level. I've thought that for a long time. Wing-back is incredibly demanding as it combines the duties of the old positions of left back and left winger, which used to require 2 players. In order to regularly cover the whole length of the pitch, a wing-back needs incredible pace and energy. Neither Fox or Targett ever had it but they'd both have made adequate, not great, left wingers and in an earlier era might have been OK. Neither of them was ever capable of performing the defensive duties well at the top level, when they are up against pacy forwards. Ryan Bertrand has got a lot of unfair stick on here as with our weak defence he has often had to do the defensive work of two men, whereas, in contrast, Targett needs an extra defender to cover for him. I'd be tempted to put in a bid for Wendell in January: a player Ralph would be familiar with from the Bundesliga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Danny Fox was the worst left back i've seen at the club. Targett has his weaknesses but hes better than that clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Danny Fox was the worst left back i've seen at the club. Targett has his weaknesses but hes better than that clown Lee Todd made Danny Fox look like Roberto Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Lee Todd made Danny Fox look like Roberto Carlos. And Olivier Bernard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Danny Fox was the worst left back i've seen at the club. Targett has his weaknesses but hes better than that clown Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years. The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Targett must be one of the least intelligent people I've ever met, it's no wonder his decision making is abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWSaintDaz Posted 27 December, 2018 Share Posted 27 December, 2018 Thanks Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years. The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Fox was a **** poor defender in the championship he was lucky enough to be in a team that attacked most of the time and scored a lot of goals which covered up his weakness got found out in the PL though having said that he was better than Targett whose only redeeming feature is the occasional nice cross we really need to upgrade our fullback/wingback options to get the best out of Ralph's style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years. The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing. Great servants? Hardly, just got paid a lot while we were riding high and as soon as he realised he couldn’t cut it, left. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] melt Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 These threads are such fun I wonder what sort of bloke Dusic is as all he likes to do is put threads up that have a pop at our players... Odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 These threads are such fun I wonder what sort of bloke Dusic is as all he likes to do is put threads up that have a pop at our players... Odd I wonder why people constantly stick up for our average players. That is odd. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 I wonder why people constantly stick up for our average players. That is odd. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I stick up for you despite you being below average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Matt Targett is starting to annoy the hell out of me how sh1te he is He is weak, doesn't win any headers, can't run at players, is like a statue and as soon as he gets the ball has to get rid of it straight away The argument I hear is...but yeh he puts in the odd good cross That doesn't make him a good player or the fact he contributes nothing else ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years. The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing. Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management. Always makes me laugh how people can get so worked up over what is a subjective opinion. Let's face it, neither is/was very good so there's not much difference between them - it's not like we're comparing MLT and Paul Moody. Personally think Danny Fox was slightly better but that might be just because it'll annoy the hell out of you and leave you seething for the rest of the day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management. Soppy old fcker getting worked up about a player from years ago. Have a mince pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Matt Targett is starting to annoy the hell out of me how sh1te he is He is weak, doesn't win any headers, can't run at players, is like a statue and as soon as he gets the ball has to get rid of it straight away The argument I hear is...but yeh he puts in the odd good cross That doesn't make him a good player or the fact he contributes nothing else ok He’s a left-footed JWP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Absolute rubbish, one of the worst defenders ever and not just at Saints. Just about cut it going forward. WGS saw through him swiftly for Scotland, imagine someone not even considered good enough to get in the Scotland team. Absolute fraud of a footballer and his pathetic stance hands on hips watching the ball head for the net after one of his cockups. He may have been part of a good team but we were good despite having to carry him. Destroyed Hooiveld's career as well. For anyone to compare Targett to Fox is disgraceful. Targett was actually OK last night, not great but OK, only made one mistake if you're being picky, got away with a.ouple of badd errors in previous games. Shame really that we loaned out Sam MCQuuen, would have better suited the wing back position that RH is employing Targett in, but hey that's down to our then crap management. Nice to see a reasoned, well thought out reflection on the merits of a player. Too often posts on here exaggerate players strengths or weaknesses, and allow personal animosity to cloud their judgement. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years. The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing. Fans are entitled to valued opinions and are not ‘embarrassing’ The post is entirely accurate too! The team did very well despite Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Utterly laughable post. Foxy was a huge part of the team that got us promoted. Didn't quite cut it in the prem but was a huge part in, for me anyway, one of the most enjoyable seasons we've had i the last 25 years. The ungrateful disrespect fans have for great servants of the club is sometimes just embarrassing. Yep, mental. Danny Fox was found wanting in the Prem and was about half-decent in the Championship - not for his defensive contribution but for his assists - which, I believe, was in the double figures. Good little player in the npc but like Hammond, Sharp, Hooiveld et all who all contributed massively to our promotion - came up short in the Prem... and moved on. Thanks for contributions, thanks for the memories. No need to make ridiculous comments about them - especially when considering Lee Todd played for us, who was genuinely abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 It's a team sport, a team that got us back into the prem should all be shown respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 It's a team sport, a team that got us back into the prem should all be shown respect. Stupid comment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Stupid comment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Stupid face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 28 December, 2018 Author Share Posted 28 December, 2018 These threads are such fun I wonder what sort of bloke Dusic is as all he likes to do is put threads up that have a pop at our players... OddWhats your opinion of Targett and ehat he offers to the team? Also, presume you have missed my Redmond thread: https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?60170-Nathan-Redmond#.XCZtNmmnydM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Lee Todd made Danny Fox look like Roberto Carlos. Lee Todd is the worst player that i've ever seen play for Saints, and i've seen a lot of sh*t players play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 December, 2018 Share Posted 28 December, 2018 Yep, mental. Danny Fox was found wanting in the Prem and was about half-decent in the Championship - not for his defensive contribution but for his assists - which, I believe, was in the double figures. Good little player in the npc but like Hammond, Sharp, Hooiveld et all who all contributed massively to our promotion - came up short in the Prem... and moved on. Thanks for contributions, thanks for the memories. No need to make ridiculous comments about them - especially when considering Lee Todd played for us, who was genuinely abysmal. 13 assists I think it was. He was a competent championship player and perfect for our system in the championship which relied on full backs being able to put quality balls into the area. Frazer Richardson also got double figures for assists that season. Incredible that a key player in one of our most memorable seasons is labelled one of the worst defenders of all time. Then again one of them is someone who once accused me of being racist because I didn’t agree with him that Tanadari lee wouldn’t ever be a premier league star, I don’t think he’s ever recovered from that embarrassing moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 13 assists I think it was. He was a competent championship player and perfect for our system in the championship which relied on full backs being able to put quality balls into the area. Frazer Richardson also got double figures for assists that season. Incredible that a key player in one of our most memorable seasons is labelled one of the worst defenders of all time. Then again one of them is someone who once accused me of being racist because I didn’t agree with him that Tanadari lee wouldn’t ever be a premier league star, I don’t think he’s ever recovered from that embarrassing moment. Assists have **** all to do with his ability as a defender as a full back he would have made a good winger. He was a truly terrible defender slow, frequently lost his man, **** weak in the tackle and often out of position. Yes he could put a good ball into the box but his assists had more to do with the attacking quality of our strikers and attacking midfield. Frazer Richardson on the other hand was able to defend as well as a deliver a decent cross and an all round better full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Assists have **** all to do with his ability as a defender as a full back he would have made a good winger. He was a truly terrible defender slow, frequently lost his man, **** weak in the tackle and often out of position. Yes he could put a good ball into the box but his assists had more to do with the attacking quality of our strikers and attacking midfield. Frazer Richardson on the other hand was able to defend as well as a deliver a decent cross and an all round better full back. Fox was fine in Championship, Like Targett would be. No one is saying he is Marcelo. Calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Fox was fine in Championship, Like Targett would be. No one is saying he is Marcelo. Calm down. neither of them are as good as Hoedt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 neither of them are as good as Hoedt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 December, 2018 Share Posted 29 December, 2018 Lee Todd is the worst player that i've ever seen play for Saints, and i've seen a lot of sh*t players play for us. I’ve seen Anthony Pulis play in a pre-season friendly. End of argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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