Bad Wolf Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 (edited) Imagine you're the Saints manager. The club tell you, in January, either Gabbi or Austin will be sold and it's up to you which one. No option to sell both, no option to keep both. They're both subject to a bid for exactly the same price and imagine they're both on the same money. Which one stays and which one goes? Any chance of a poll, mods? Edited 20 December, 2018 by Instant Classic Poll requesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjurwi Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Would not keep Gabbiadini if he isn't going to be starting games. Wouldn't keep Austin if he is meant to start games. Today i would keep Austin as a impact sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Yeah Austin as a 15/20 min impact sub. Put him in the area and chances are he will score. Not sure that’s the case with Gabbi as much as I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Sell both and sign Billy Sharp Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Sell both and sign Billy Sharp Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Could never work out why we didnt give him a spin when we came up, the guy is a penalty box predator even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Seems like this decision has already been made. To be honest we've sort of seen the same result/decision from the last couple of managers now. It seems that the last few managers have a different opinion of Gabbi than this website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Keep Gabbi. And actually frickin play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 I'd probably pick which ever one worked the hardest in training, had the most impact in games and brought into my philosophy the most wholeheartedly between now and Jan. Judging by press reports it looks like that's going to be Austin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Keep Gabbi. And actually frickin play him. This. Austin may have come off the bench to score against the only defender in the League less fit than he is but that doesn't suddenly make him good. Gabbi is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 *Sit on Fence Alert* Happy for Ralph to make the decision on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Would choose the one who can score. Let's them come off the bench to see who can score in the next few game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 20 December, 2018 Share Posted 20 December, 2018 Keep Gabbi, and bring in a front man to replace Austin who can score goals and not have injury issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell both, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Gabbi over Austin all day. Every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Keep Austin. Absolute no brainer. Gabbi constantly struggles to find the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Stats since 2016/17 Gabbi Austin Minutes played/90 25.28 28.99 Open play goals /90min 0.40 0.41 Assists 0 1 Distance run(km/90min) 7.90 7.94 Touches/90min 28.68 36.53 Passes forward 89 163 Passes backward 171 158 Aerial battles won 31 110 Tackles won 6 20 Austin edges him in goals/assist return and contributes a lot more around the field. Gabbi won't suit RH's pressing style at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Previously I would have said get rid of Austin but of the two he seems to be the one buying into ralph’s Ideas even if he isn’t a natural athlete. Gabbi has struggled for a long time, doesn’t appear to have a place in the new approach, so should be the one to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell both, obviously. Agree, but who will buy them and pay those wages? Getting rid is not easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 *Sit on Fence Alert* Happy for Ralph to make the decision on this. The result on here isn't binding, its just a forum game. Sell Gabby, he hasn't done enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell gabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Stats since 2016/17 Gabbi Austin Minutes played/90 25.28 28.99 Open play goals /90min 0.40 0.41 Assists 0 1 Distance run(km/90min) 7.90 7.94 Touches/90min 28.68 36.53 Passes forward 89 163 Passes backward 171 158 Aerial battles won 31 110 Tackles won 6 20 Austin edges him in goals/assist return and contributes a lot more around the field. Gabbi won't suit RH's pressing style at all. Interesting stats! Austin runs more than Gabbi! If someone had asked me which player was more energetic I would have picked Gabbi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 (edited) Interesting stats! Austin runs more than Gabbi! If someone had asked me which player was more energetic I would have picked Gabbi. Personally I have always thought Austin puts in a shift, despite the criticism he gets you can't fault him for effort IMO. Early signs suggest that Austin seems more favoured and will be more involved by Ralph than Gabby. I'd also suggest that Gabbi has more re-sale value, I think plenty of clubs in Italy would probably take a risk on him considering his decent record there, where as Austin's injury record, age etc. make make it more difficult for us to sell him anyway. We have a very clear no. 1 striker at the moment, that is Ings and I doubt, unless the black box pulls a gem out of the bag, we are going to get better any time soon. We then have Austin, Gabbi, Long, Gallagher as other options, who all bring about something different but none, aside Long offer what we are missing, which is genuine pace. IF long terms Ralph is moving towards two strikers like his RBL team had, then we are basically looking for a Werner I think, probably to pair with Ings, who whilst he isn't the tallest has a decent all round game and is physical enough. Probably with Austin then as the back up 'target man' type player, with Gallagher also able to play that role if he ever gets fit. And Long is the pace, and has the work rate/energy for the pressing, he just is not a very reliable goalscorer/technician, so again would be impact. Which all considering to me says sell Gabbi, he doesn't seem to fit the picture and we should be able to recoup £10-15 million for him, which can then part go towards a new 'pacey' striker. EDIT: LOL., after I wrote this I found this article - The Southampton striker, Manolo Gabbiadini, wants to quit St Mary's in January and return to Italy with Fiorentina, according to the Daily Mirror (December 20, page 58). The newspaper claims that the new Saints manager, Ralph Hasenhuttl, is willing to cash in on Gabbiadini after being told he must sell players before he can buy. https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/12/20/report-manolo-gabbiadini-wants-to-quit-southampton-for-fiorentin/ Edited 21 December, 2018 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Austin all day long natural goal scorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 I really like Gabbiadini but if I am honest I'm surprised he's still at the club - really thought he was going to be sold last summer. So on that basis alone I'd sell Gabbi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Get rid of both, bring in Marega from Porto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Stats since 2016/17 Gabbi Austin Minutes played/90 25.28 28.99 Open play goals /90min 0.40 0.41 Assists 0 1 Distance run(km/90min) 7.90 7.94 Touches/90min 28.68 36.53 Passes forward 89 163 Passes backward 171 158 Aerial battles won 31 110 Tackles won 6 20 Austin edges him in goals/assist return and contributes a lot more around the field. Gabbi won't suit RH's pressing style at all. Those stats certainly indicate that Austin contributes a hell of a lot more. He is ahead in every category apart from passing the ball backwards. Anyway, rumours abound that the decision has already been made and that Gabbiadini is going to be sold. I have total faith in our manager to make the right decision and to use the money wisely to strengthen the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 sell Austin for £15m= £10m profit sell Gabbi for £15m= £1m profit so from the Les Reed School of Economics- best profit margin goes if we sell Austin... so, yes sell Austin... oh wait... Reed is gone ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Get rid of both, bring in Marega from Porto. Absolutely this, did say quite a while back about Aboubacar but he's got a serious injury i believe, however Marega has really stepped up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell Gabbiadini and keep Austin. Austin at least actually cares, Gabbiadini looks like he couldn't give a ****. Also I think Austin would get us more goals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell both, neither suited to RH game. Austin has proved he can do a job for 20 minutes, but can't see him lasting much more than that. MG a saleable asset, but will probably take a loss. Austin will take a loss for sure, but both will be on decent $ freeing up some space in the squad and wage bill. Buy one quality striker. Ings, Long, Obafemi, Gallagher all suited to RH way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell both, neither suited to RH game. Austin has proved he can do a job for 20 minutes, but can't see him lasting much more than that. MG a saleable asset, but will probably take a loss. Austin will take a loss for sure, but both will be on decent $ freeing up some space in the squad and wage bill. Buy one quality striker. Ings, Long, Obafemi, Gallagher all suited to RH way. I'd surprised if we made a loss on Austin if we sold him unless he left on a free considering he only cost £4 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Would still would expect a loss given the state of his shoulders and knees. Hence why we we only got him for $4 million in the 1st place. Been a good signing for that price, but now struggling to complete 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Would still would expect a loss given the state of his shoulders and knees. Hence why we we only got him for $4 million in the 1st place. Been a good signing for that price, but now struggling to complete 90 minutes. To be fair the main reason we got him at that price was because he had 6 months left on his QPR deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Let Hasenhustle see if he can get Austin's fat ass moving. If he can he could be very useful for us. Make or break, quite literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 21 December, 2018 Share Posted 21 December, 2018 Sell Gabbi obviously. Got off to a flying start but has been poor ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 As RH has been managing in Germany for a few years surely he must have an idea of a few possible recruits from the Bundesliga. Sell whoever we can and import a couple that Ralph knows from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 Sell Gabbi obviously. Got off to a flying start but has been poor ever since. Since we signed Gabbi he has scored 10 league goals (and 2 more in the Cup final). In the same period of time Austin has scored 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 Difficult one. Sell Austin due to fitness or Gabbi due to not gelling in team? I would say the latter is the hardest issue to overcome in the short term so sell Gabbi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 I'd sell gabbi as he has a year longer on his contract so we can let Austin run out his contract for one season once we've found a proper partner for Ings. While doing so Austin will at least chip in with a few goals off the bench, something I'm not sure gabbi has ever done ... Except at Swansea of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 I don't feel Gabbi has ever had a consistent enough run in the team to be allowed to settle and build confidence. It's obviously difficult to give a striker time if he isn't scoring but we know he's got goals in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 Since we signed Gabbi he has scored 10 league goals (and 2 more in the Cup final). In the same period of time Austin has scored 9. This is misleading since Austin missed the 1/2 of 2 seasons, so in reality he played a full season less than Gabbi. Austins goals per minute is much higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 This is misleading since Austin missed the 1/2 of 2 seasons, so in reality he played a full season less than Gabbi. Austins goals per minute is much higher The mod wouldn’t think about that but your point is spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 I'm surprised how many people have wanted Gabbiadini starting over the last year, he's shown next to nothing since Puel. I'm no big Austin fan but he's a really useful bench player, and I think Gabbi's got enough admirers in Italy that we could get a decent fee for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 This is misleading since Austin missed the 1/2 of 2 seasons, so in reality he played a full season less than Gabbi. Austins goals per minute is much higher So we should keep him because he has a terrible fitness record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 Easy sell both Neither fits the new managers tactics of requiring speed closing down ability and tenacity to hit on the break Redmond obefemi ings and long are much better suited to the new tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 Id sell both and long and bring in someone better. Timo Werner maybe..... In my dreams maybe Sent from my Lenovo TB-X304F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 December, 2018 Share Posted 23 December, 2018 Id sell both and long and bring in someone better. Timo Werner maybe..... In my dreams maybe Sent from my Lenovo TB-X304F using Tapatalk Ahh just sell players and bring in someone better. Greta work. Simple this football business isn’t it? That was all we had to do with Pelle wasn’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 December, 2018 Share Posted 23 December, 2018 Sell Gabbiadini. Keep Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted 23 December, 2018 Share Posted 23 December, 2018 Head says sell Gabbi, heart says keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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