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Ryan Bertrand not a fan of Mark Hughes...

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Cabbage_Face

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He will thrive under this new manager.

 

He has had an op on his back but has been in constant contact with new manager.

 

Amazing times ahead. Class player.

 

 

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Avenue_Saint

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He will thrive under this new manager.

 

He has had an op on his back but has been in constant contact with new manager.

 

Amazing times ahead. Class player.

 

 

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This

DT

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No way. Sell others first.

 

 

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Well, yes, but others may not reap as much. If he's behind the new manager and prepared to put a shift in, keep him of course.

 

 

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Cabbage_Face

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Well, yes, but others may not reap as much. If he's behind the new manager and prepared to put a shift in, keep him of course.

 

 

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100 percent will be. His style suits this type of play. [emoji1303]

 

 

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DT

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100 percent will be. His style suits this type of play. [emoji1303]

 

 

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Great to hear

 

 

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Secret Site Agent

Secret Site Agent

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...and maybe not a fan of Pellegrino or Puel either...

 

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Good job in mind reading, giving your own spin and pressing ahead with an agenda.

 

I don't get any of that apart from he's happy we are finally turning things around.

 

 

Or maybe he isnt a fan of Koeman, Pottechino, Adkins etc. as well.

Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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Good job in mind reading, giving your own spin and pressing ahead with an agenda.

 

I don't get any of that apart from he's happy we are finally turning things around.

 

 

Or maybe he isnt a fan of Koeman, Pottechino, Adkins etc. as well.

 

Reading between the lines, he's quite blatantly having a dig at the previous manager(s).

Pamplemousse

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Good job in mind reading, giving your own spin and pressing ahead with an agenda.

 

I don't get any of that apart from he's happy we are finally turning things around.

 

 

Or maybe he isnt a fan of Koeman, Pottechino, Adkins etc. as well.

 

That's what sports journalists do.

 

Pointless thread, we already have one about Bertrand.

beatlesaint

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****ing bloke needs to look in the mirror and start performing himself. Classless comment if you ask me.

 

 

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well nobody has asked you.

SaintSteve

SaintSteve

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Targett had a great game today, I don't think Bertrand will be waltzing into the team as soon as he's available again...

You weren’t at the game then.. ok going forwards but defensively a nightmare

Lord Duckhunter

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well nobody has asked you.

 

I assumed that by starting a thread people were asking for other posters opinions. Sorry for the. misunderstanding, I didn’t realise you had to be asked before you contribute.

 

 

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JustMike

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****ing bloke needs to look in the mirror and start performing himself. Classless comment if you ask me.

 

 

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Firstly, no one did.

Secondly, which part of that was classless? Entirely accurate.

beatlesaint

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I assumed that by starting a thread people were asking for other posters opinions. Sorry for the. misunderstanding, I didn’t realise you had to be asked before you contribute.

 

 

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no need to apologise, you can’t help it

Mr X

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You weren’t at the game then.. ok going forwards but defensively a nightmare
This! targett was a complete liability, several passes in defence straight to the attacker that nearly cost us!

 

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Lord Duckhunter

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Secondly, which part of that was classless? Entirely accurate.

 

It’s classless to have a pop at previous managers.

Players need to take responsibility for poor performances, not hide behind tactics or formations. There’s a reason he’s lost his England place and if he thinks that’s because of bad management, he’s deluded.

 

 

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Toadhall Saint

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It’s classless to have a pop at previous managers.

Players need to take responsibility for poor performances, not hide behind tactics or formations. There’s a reason he’s lost his England place and if he thinks that’s because of bad management, he’s deluded.

 

 

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Go to the top and read again. Hasn’t had a pop and not blamed anyone for him not being in the England team.

Patrick Bateman

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****ing bloke needs to look in the mirror and start performing himself. Classless comment if you ask me.

 

 

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I agree in parts. It is easy to have a pop at someone once they've gone and look back in hindsight and it is also classless on the basis that Hughes (and previous managers) were trying their best. Just happened their best wasn't up to standards of winning.

 

I'm happy Bertrand is pleased, but my message back is "get fit and get on the pitch and make up for the last 2 years and put in some outrageously good performances"

SFC Forever

SFC Forever

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Ryan in my view was simply saying how great it was to see us pressing and attacking.

Not pussyfooting around at the back in a safety first style of play.

 

The difference between today's performance and the last couple of seasons was immense. They had permission to attack and at speed. Play high speed aggressive football as against the slow negative crap of recent times.

 

Yes it may have been a slight dig at our recent managers but only in that the pleasure of the team being urged to attack attack attack, and removal of the restraints the team had were seemingly gone.

DT

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This! targett was a complete liability, several passes in defence straight to the attacker that nearly cost us!

 

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By the same token his cross for our first was sublime

 

 

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LGTL

LGTL

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Can one person honestly tell me they’d rather work for Hughes over Ralph, from what we’ve seen so far?

 

Doubt the players are any different to you or me.

Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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Well I hope Hughes was watching that yesterday.

 

We all know our squad has its limitations, but what we saw yesterday was the result of a team working hard and with a clear game plan. That Hughes wasn't able to get the same squad playing anything like that and repeatedly failing to win any games should leave him with a sense of shame and embarrassment.

 

If he has any integrity, he will never apply for another manager's job again because he's nothing but a fraud, stealing a living. It's not as if he needs the money after all the compo he had received

Pilchards

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Well I hope Hughes was watching that yesterday.

 

We all know our squad has its limitations, but what we saw yesterday was the result of a team working hard and with a clear game plan. That Hughes wasn't able to get the same squad playing anything like that and repeatedly failing to win any games should leave him with a sense of shame and embarrassment.

 

If he has any integrity, he will never apply for another manager's job again because he's nothing but a fraud, stealing a living. It's not as if he needs the money after all the compo he had received

 

If Hughes wants to succeed next time then he needs to put in the time on the training ground.

It’s not rocket science that the players were unfit and that Ralph probably had them in training more in one week than Hughes did in a month.

Noodles34

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I'm not great at reading between the lines but how, from that tweet have we deduced that he didn't like the two previous managers?

 

cause people on here think that

Foxstone

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Well I hope Hughes was watching that yesterday.

 

We all know our squad has its limitations, but what we saw yesterday was the result of a team working hard and with a clear game plan. That Hughes wasn't able to get the same squad playing anything like that and repeatedly failing to win any games should leave him with a sense of shame and embarrassment.

 

If he has any integrity, he will never apply for another manager's job again because he's nothing but a fraud, stealing a living. It's not as if he needs the money after all the compo he had received

 

Agree. I have heard from somebody who knows him that Mark Bowen no longer wants to work with Hughes as Hughes has completely lost interest in football and can't be arsed.

Saint Pete

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Look I'm no fan of Hughes and I think Ralph is going to be a much better manager both tactically and motivationally.

 

But I seem to remember the players saying quite similar things about the impact that Hughes and his coaches were having when he first came in and how much better it was than the previous manager.

 

So forgive me if I'm not 100% trusting yet that the players including Ryan will remain totally on board with what Ralph wants to do with them in the medium and longer term. Would it really surprise anyone that much of the players start turning against him if a few results go against us, just as they have done with previous managers?

 

The players should take their share of responsibility for what has gone on over the last couple of seasons irrespective of the merits or otherwise of the managers.

 

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S-Clarke

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I think it's a pretty clear dig, otherwise he could have just said ''Great win lads, really good performance!'' - but as a player, to mention tactics improving (after the previous manager was sacked), you are seemingly sharing a gripe there. But I think we can all see it, we had a plan yesterday and it was refreshing to see.

Lord Duckhunter

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The players should take their share of responsibility for what has gone on over the last couple of seasons irrespective of the merits or otherwise of the managers.

 

 

 

Spot on. I taped the Utd Liverpool game and watched it when I got in. Roy Keane said the same about Utd players. He said “ I never blamed the manager when I played badly”. Said players have to give their all regardless of what they think of the man in charge. If Ryan Bertrand’s been giving his all week in week out the past 2 seasons , then my c@@ks a carrot.

 

 

 

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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It's well to remember that luck plays a part also. A very good performance yesterday but it could just as easily have been 3-2 the other way.

 

You make your own luck by putting in the effort/forcing the oppo into making mistakes....

Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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It's well to remember that luck plays a part also. A very good performance yesterday but it could just as easily have been 3-2 the other way.
It could easily have been 3-1 to us...their second had 2 deflections and Longs disallowed one would have been missed by the useless git on the other line who missed at least 3 offsides by not being up with play I was in line with.

 

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Noodles34

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It could easily have been 3-1 to us...their second had 2 deflections and Longs disallowed one would have been missed by the useless git on the other line who missed at least 3 offsides by not being up with play I was in line with.

 

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How bad was he? I could not believe one decision in the second half, the guy, maybe Abamyon was offside by about 5 bloody yards!

saint77

saint77

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How bad was he? I could not believe one decision in the second half, the guy, maybe Abamyon was offside by about 5 bloody yards!

 

yep one of the worst linos we've had said to my mate several times the guy cant keep up with play

ericofarabia

ericofarabia

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Or sell him to release funds for needed improvements at cb and striker?

 

 

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Getting Bertrand getting back up to his levels of 2 years ago would be like getting a new player for free!!

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