Dusic Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Just had a minor back operation, out until the opening of the transfer window. Will we see him in a Saints shirt again? If not, hardly the best message to sell our best player in January (again) whilst struggling. Would need replacing as Targett consistently struggles at PL level.
Bad Wolf Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 He's declined since we got him and clearly doesn't give two sh1ts.
Saint Garrett Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 He's declined since we got him and clearly doesn't give two sh1ts. Not true, he's declined in the last 18 months, whether thats due to interest, fitness or talent...was excellent under Koeman and arguably the best LB in the league that season.
Greenridge Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Did he have the chip on his shoulder removed? (calm down, it was a joke)
notnowcato Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Ryan gets unfair level of stick on here. Hope his operation is a success and that we see him back in our shirt, we're going to need him.
doddisalegend Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Best player? Not exactly a high bar these days but I don't think he has performed any where near his best for a long time. Better than Targett for sure but surely we could find a left back better than Targett in January. As for best player that's clearly Lemina by some margin.
saintwbu Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Whether his been at his best or not, he’s still in our top two best players by far alongside Lemina. He’s the perfect modern day full back, can attack and defend in equal measure. Horrendous CB pairings and goalkeepers do not help his perception among the fans.
John Boy Saint Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Whether his been at his best or not, he’s still in our top two best players by far alongside Lemina. He’s the perfect modern day full back, can attack and defend in equal measure.Horrendous CB pairings and goalkeepers do not help his perception among the fans. Errr he hasn't much helped himself in that regard. Just watch back the first goal against us away at Wolves, Wolves player steams down our left, 50p feet Wesley is straining every sinew in the vain effort to cut out the cross, the cross for the goal is made...........oh who is this lolloping casually into the box enjoying the Autumn sunshine our "Captain" Mr Bertrand. I sometimes meet someone who has a contact inside the club, at the end of the Puel season Bertrand made no secret of wanting out of Saints, but no one came knocking for him. In fairness to him he didn't pull the toddler tantrums like a few other players wanting out have done. The fact that Danny Rose and Ashley Young got to go to Russia ahead of him emphasises how half aR$ed he had become. Wouldn't be surprised if making him Captain this season was a plan to hopefully get him motivated back to previous levels and at the same time subtly sticking him the shop window.
notnowcato Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Errr he hasn't much helped himself in that regard. Just watch back the first goal against us away at Wolves, Wolves player steams down our left, 50p feet Wesley is straining every sinew in the vain effort to cut out the cross, the cross for the goal is made...........oh who is this lolloping casually into the box enjoying the Autumn sunshine our "Captain" Mr Bertrand. I sometimes meet someone who has a contact inside the club, at the end of the Puel season Bertrand made no secret of wanting out of Saints, but no one came knocking for him. In fairness to him he didn't pull the toddler tantrums like a few other players wanting out have done. The fact that Danny Rose and Ashley Young got to go to Russia ahead of him emphasises how half aR$ed he had become. Wouldn't be surprised if making him Captain this season was a plan to hopefully get him motivated back to previous levels and at the same time subtly sticking him the shop window. He was injured towards the end of last season and lost his place in the England just at the wrong time. Do I think Southgate was correct in picking Young ahead of Ryan? Absolutely not. Is Ryan a better left back than Young? in every sense, yes.
SaintAndy14 Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 The positive with this news is that we don't have to see him with the Captain's armband for a while. Personally, I think I could inspire the team more than him if I were hungover and suffering with the flu.
saint97 Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Best player Nobody in the squad is anywhere near the calibre of Lemina
Dusic Posted 14 December, 2018 Author Posted 14 December, 2018 Bertrand to Targett is a massive downgrade to an already poor team. Simple as that. Bertrand definitely our best defender and also one of our main chance creators as well. Targett is not a PL standard player.
Chocolate Box Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Has anyone considered that the issue with his back may have affected his performances? When fit he is one of the best left backs in the prem. We have a history of playing unfit players out of desperation, most recently Ings.
woodsaint Posted 14 December, 2018 Posted 14 December, 2018 Still a very good player and one of the top 6 left backs in the league when on form imo. Hope he stays for many more years
northam soul Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Definitely had surgery on his back. Suggestions of a bad attitude are wide of the mark. He's been nothing but brilliant for us. He's not my no. 1 choice for captain but he's a well respected character in the dressing room. He's v driven and has a work life outside of football. Finally some sense, doubt it will shut the whining up though
doddisalegend Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Definitely had surgery on his back. Suggestions of a bad attitude are wide of the mark. He's been nothing but brilliant for us. He's not my no. 1 choice for captain but he's a well respected character in the dressing room. He's v driven and has a work life outside of football. Obviously our definitions of "Brilliant" differ there isn't a player in the squad who deserves the description of "Brilliant" for going on three seasons now
Baird of the land Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Definitely had surgery on his back. Suggestions of a bad attitude are wide of the mark. He's been nothing but brilliant for us. He's not my no. 1 choice for captain but he's a well respected character in the dressing room. He's v driven and has a work life outside of football. Did he hurt his back doing this second job he was moonlighting as. Lol
st alex Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Bertrand's definitely one of our better players, but hasn't been quite as good in the past year or so for whatever reason. Is McQueen still here? Thought he looked very decent when he's come in in the past, think Targett is a little weaker defensively but could form a good partnership if he were played left midfield with an attacking full back behind him as they'd be able to switch and cover each other.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Targett is better, who cares You are odd
VectisSaint Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Bertrand's definitely one of our better players, but hasn't been quite as good in the past year or so for whatever reason. Is McQueen still here? Thought he looked very decent when he's come in in the past, think Targett is a little weaker defensively but could form a good partnership if he were played left midfield with an attacking full back behind him as they'd be able to switch and cover each other. Sam was on a season long loan at Middlesbro, but ruptured his ACL in November, out for the season sadly.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 He was top quality the first two years, but since has dropped off a level. Whether that’s to do with lack of quality around him, or the first two seasons being a peak he can’t reach again is debatable. What’s not debatable is he’s head and shoulders above any other option we’ve got. Personally, he annoys me, as he looks too causal for my liking and looks like he’s going through the motions. But he’s probably the first name on the team sheet because we lack a decent replacement Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
kyle04 Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 He was top quality the first two years, but since has dropped off a level. Whether that’s to do with lack of quality around him, or the first two seasons being a peak he can’t reach again is debatable. What’s not debatable is he’s head and shoulders above any other option we’ve got. Personally, he annoys me, as he looks too causal for my liking and looks like he’s going through the motions. But he’s probably the first name on the team sheet because we lack a decent replacement Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk +1 For a season and a half nearly he has been a good player in a poor team. I think his fitness levels have dropped and he's lost a bit of heart, but his body language sometimes is not acceptable. He is good enough to be a regular international IMO, one thing he is not is captain material however. If he does stay maybe RH will get the best out of him. We do have genuine quality in the squad (Bertie, Ings, Lemina, Redmond, even Romeu), just not enough of it.
wild-saint Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Targett is better, who cares Well there you go. Proof you are clueless of just a wi duo. Which is it?
Crab Lungs Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Great player. Can’t believe the stick he gets on here.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Great player. Can’t believe the stick he gets on here. Great???? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Cabbage_Face Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Well there you go. Proof you are clueless of just a wi duo. Which is it? I'd go for the wi duo. Loved that console and game. I was being a ****. It's obvious Bertrand is our best LB by miles.
Bad Wolf Posted 15 December, 2018 Posted 15 December, 2018 Not true, he's declined in the last 18 months, whether thats due to interest, fitness or talent...was excellent under Koeman and arguably the best LB in the league that season. He's declined every season. He's not had one season with us where he was better or as good as the last.
Nolan Posted 16 December, 2018 Posted 16 December, 2018 Very promising quote from https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11581392/ralph-hasenhuttl-gets-a-round-in-as-southampton-seek-home-comforts Injured players have not escaped the 51-year-old's meticulous planning, with left-back Ryan Bertrand sent training videos to watch during his recovery from a back operation which will keep him sidelined for around a fortnight. "It went well and I wrote to him yesterday wishing him all the best," said Hasenhuttl. "We sent him all the training session videos that we made this week so that he can imagine what will change now in his position or what we are asking from [him] in the future."
Dusic Posted 3 January, 2019 Author Posted 3 January, 2019 Second part of RH presser he said Bertrand due to start training tomorrow and then hopefully shortly with the team. Said he knows he is a good player and wants him fit quickly and to understand what he needs in that role. Cliche but he will be like a new signing. Miles better than Targett, despite the wallies earlier this season begging for Targett to get a chance!
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