Dusic Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 So Maya is in the squad for the Asian Cup, which is due to last pretty much the whole of January. January is a hugely key month for Saints. Would not suprise me if Hasenhuttl plans without him from now rather than have a hopefully settled back four ripped up when he goes. Also, have to say Yoshida has been very poor this season when he has played - clearly something went on in the summer with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Good Riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Good Riddance. What a ridiculous and unpleasant remark for one of our most loyal and dedicated players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 (edited) What a ridiculous and unpleasant remark for one of our most loyal and dedicated players I'd take quality over dedication any day. Rather have 11 VVD's than 11 Benali's or Yoshidas. Surely you can only base "Loyality" on whether he has been approached by another club. Are you telling me if "Bigger Club" popped in a bid for him he would say "No i'm so loyal and dedicated to Saints" Highly unlikely. Edited 12 December, 2018 by Cabbage_Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 in a way, I think this could be a positive we all know he needs a run of games before he is up to speed and decent- he starts for Japan I think so maybe putting him in a competitive environment in tournament football when games come thick and fast will do him some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 One of our most loyal and dedicated players Loyalty isn't required on a player's part if there hasn't been bid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Good Riddance. I agree but pretty unpleasant way of phrasing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Loyalty isn't required on a player's part if there hasn't been bid for him. Considering that he was subject to a bid from a club in Qatar/UAE either last summer or prior, then loyalty has played a part for him. He has been a part of our most successful sides in living memory. He is not the only player who has recently underwhelmed and deserves a chance under out new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Loyalty isn't required on a player's part if there hasn't been bid for him. You know for a fact that there have been no bids I suppose. Transfers don't always work like that anyway. If a player is unsettled his agent will tout that around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 So Maya is in the squad for the Asian Cup, which is due to last pretty much the whole of January. January is a hugely key month for Saints. Would not suprise me if Hasenhuttl plans without him from now rather than have a hopefully settled back four ripped up when he goes. Also, have to say Yoshida has been very poor this season when he has played - clearly something went on in the summer with him. Yoshida is always worse when he is in and out of the team and not playing regularly. As our most experienced CB and imo still the best CB we have ( not that the bar I very high on that one) he should have been playing regularly all season which would have improved his game no end. I do agree though if he isn't going to be here for a whole month it might be better trying to get a partnership going between the other CB options. Chopping and changing the back four/five constantly has done us no favours this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Loyalty isn't required on a player's part if there hasn't been bid for him. There was a bid which reed accepted it was Yoshida who didn't want to go which reed didn't like as it last chance for quite a large pay day for club hence why he was frozen out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 There was a bid which reed accepted it was Yoshida who didn't want to go which reed didn't like as it last chance for quite a large pay day for club hence why he was frozen out Who came in for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Maybe his problem is the indoctrination by Puel and Pellegrino regarding the holy grail of possession at all costs. Hoedt, Bertrand, Targett, Bednerek, Soares, Stephens and Yoshida all have been caught in possession through not clearing it. Yoshida was at fault against MU, tried to take possession and lost the ball instead of kicking it away, and for Herrera's goal tried not to give a corner away and tried to flick a boot at it. Hughes obviously didn't do anything about that. Maybe now Hasenhuttl will get them to put their boot through it if there is the slightest danger then hunt it down in a pack in midfield or up front to get it back. Years ago when I was doing my pilot training, All Nippon pilots were trained there and I remember there was a major criticism of the Japanese mentality due to a widespread lack of flexibility. They were brilliant at learning by numbers but hopeless at using their initiative, which caused problems when presented with unusual or multiple failures during training. In other words they do as they are told rigidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Makes it even more obvious to go for Stephen-Bednarek pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Who came in for him? pretty sure it was arab emirates side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 pretty sure it was arab emirates side Not exactly tempting then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Not exactly tempting then. only for Reed /club. wages were more for yoshida but he didn't want to leave uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 only for Reed /club. wages were more for yoshida but he didn't want to leave uk So would probably sign for another UK side? #Loyal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 You know for a fact that there have been no bids I suppose. I didn't say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 What a ridiculous and unpleasant remark for one of our most loyal and dedicated players Cabbage prefers Hoedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Good Riddance. Unworthy comment for a player who has played well for us during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Unworthy comment for a player who has played well for us during his time here. I must be watching different players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 I must be watching different players. You read just like Glasgow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 You read just like Glasgow..... Doubt he is that funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Oi Cabbage, who'd you rather leave during January, Yoshi or Vestergaard? ("Both" is not allowed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 To the theme of Sit Down by James. "Yoshida, Yoshida, Yoshida, Yoshi next to leave, "Or we're down, down, down, down, down... no sympathy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Makes it even more obvious to go for Stephen-Bednarek pairing. Stephens and Bednarek - what a combo to inspire absolute confidence that our CB problems will be a thing of the past. The sad fact is they may well be our least worst option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Oi Cabbage, who'd you rather leave during January, Yoshi or Vestergaard? ("Both" is not allowed). Vestergaard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 He might be a nice bloke but Yoshida was only ever good enough to be third place centre back behind Fonte, Lovren, Toby and vVD in recent years. The fact he is now considered to be our best CB at the moment is part of the reason we are in the position we are, diluting a strong squad with average replacements. Cabbage is right when he says his loyalty only extends as far as the size of the team that come in for him, I’m sure if United decided they need to flog more shirts in Japan and made an offer he’d be off like a shot regardles of how much game time he is likely to get. I’m not sure any of our current CB’s are in Ralphs plans come January, he’s no fool and I’m sure has been promised a transfer kitty of some kind for the Transfer Window. We wouldn’t get a manager so highly regarded without promising him funds surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 He might be a nice bloke but Yoshida was only ever good enough to be third place centre back behind Fonte, Lovren, Toby and vVD in recent years. Yeah, he must be crap then. I mean, whatever happened to them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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