brett24 Posted 9 December, 2018 Posted 9 December, 2018 Players already got the hump with the new training regime apparently. Being made to train at the same time as the game. So 4pm kick off the players are training at 4pm for that week. Not going down well at all.
captainchris Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 So for an 8.00 pm kick off they train at night - really....
doddisalegend Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Do you know what I couldn't care less the club made a rod for their own back ever since they sided with some players against Puel. Since then we hear stories of players being upset about this and upset about every few weeks. ****'em they get paid a fortune to have a pretty cushie lifestyle compared to the majority of the fan base who are paying a lot of hard earned cash to watch them swan around a pitch thinking they are better than they are. Hopeful this time the club will back the manager and any player who doesn't like it can just **** right of.
Saint Albert Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Players already got the hump with the new training regime apparently. Being made to train at the same time as the game. So 4pm kick off the players are training at 4pm for that week. Not going down well at all. I’m starting to see why some of our supporters hate the players. The problem for the players this time is their abject, ****ty performances mean they’re not really working from a position of power.
ChiefScummer Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I honestly couldn't give a single sh it about any of their feelings. We pay good money to watch them bottle it every week while they go home to their supermodel wives and mansions. I hope RH knocks some sense into them and punishes anyone who isn't cut out for his style.
Dark Munster Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Do you know what I couldn't care less the club made a rod for their own back ever since they sided with some players against Puel. Since then we hear stories of players being upset about this and upset about every few weeks. ****'em they get paid a fortune to have a pretty cushie lifestyle compared to the majority of the fan base who are paying a lot of hard earned cash to watch them swan around a pitch thinking they are better than they are. Hopeful this time the club will back the manager and any player who doesn't like it can just **** right of. Thanks, you saved me having to write basically the same thing. Assuming of course the OP's report is correct.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 They trained afternoon last Thursday because they played weds night which seems logical to me. Normally they would come in for gentle session day after game but because of short time before Cardiff game Ralph felt he needed to maximise the time he had with players. As far as I could see Friday session was normal time then they travelled to Cardiff in afternoon. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk
Nolan Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 We'll know which one are upset from the ones that are dropped then. Fine with me.
John Boy Saint Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Ahhh my heart bleeds for the poor hard done by little souls - if true. Not!!
Dr. Kucho Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Can’t think of a single player I would be sad to see leave.
alehouseboys Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I'm thinking 'fake news'. But.....if any of them grizzle at any new training regime then they quickly need to be reminded that the average fan will need to work 40 hours+ for THREE YEARS to earn what an average under-performing SFC first team player earns in ONE WEEK. To play football.
Batman Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 If true, just highlights what a bunch of ******s we have and why we are shyte. I remember when Koeman said he gave the players a day off but they insisted on coming in for extra training We were quite good then. It is times like this I hope Kelvin earns his wages.
adrian lord Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Screw them. Sell them. No place for snowflakes at Saints especially when we are staring down the barrel of relegation.
JustMike Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 So based on just a couple of sessions? Bull****
Simon3737 Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I have no problem with this (if true). The key is that the Board back the manager and let disruptive players leave. And accept that we will probably have to sell some for a loss. Recouping some money is better than paying wages to players who don’t contribute (and will give us funds to buy better players). Otherwise, they’ll have to end up backing the players over the manager (and getting them a manager who gives them an easy life and tells them they’re all great).
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Must be true because he has posted it on two threads......
capitalsaint Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Seem to recall the Spurs players similarly didn't like the training under Poch when he first joined them...
OldNick Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Leicester players also seemed to rule the roost
Simon3737 Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Seem to recall the Spurs players similarly didn't like the training under Poch when he first joined them... Good parallel. And they reacted the same to AVB apparently. Their Board backed the players and sacked AVB (replaced him with their mate Tim Sherwood). They learned their lesson after Sherwood and backed Poch ever since.
LGTL Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Would anyone seriously be surprised, considering the bunch of utter helmets we have in our squad?
ericb Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this was true, given the stories that i've heard about Hughes "training sessions" and the attitude of some players.
Cabbage_Face Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I'd be ****ed off going from playing Monopoly to Running.
mrfahaji Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Hoedt............. Didn't Hoedt make a comment that they never did any defensive drills under Hughes? Maybe he's one of the few happy ones. After the Cardiff game I'm surprised you still hate him, he looks to be one of the better ones (which is quite a remarkable situation).
tajjuk Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I find this doubtful and anyway they will get on with it or get dropped. Be interesting to see if there is an improvement after a full week of training.
Lighthouse Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Sounds a bit dubious to me, like a Daily Mail story. 'Precious overpaid footballers afraid to do work' etc. A little too much like someone saying what everyone wants to here (not pointing at the OP necessarily). I'd have thought the players would be more upset over the years of pathetic failure than having to work late in to the ungodly hours of er... 4pm.
Kingsland Red Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Time for a massive clear out then - too many players take the money and has contributed nothing worthy of note for over two seasons. It concerns me that whoever the manager is, whatever the system; if we go mentally weak, lack confidence etc when we shoot or defend it doesn't make any difference. I do not understand 'lack of confidence', if you are technically proficient you can shoot when you need to shoot,welly the ball into row Z when you need to defend under pressure.
Cabbage_Face Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Didn't Hoedt make a comment that they never did any defensive drills under Hughes? Maybe he's one of the few happy ones. After the Cardiff game I'm surprised you still hate him, he looks to be one of the better ones (which is quite a remarkable situation). Hoedt has made mistakes like that on a constant basis, but has got away with many of them. I want to be proved wrong with him, but having seen him play for Lazio and now us, I don't think it'll happen.
Turkish Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Wouldn't surprise me. I remember seeing an interview with Rickie Lambert when Pochetino was manager here. The players were unhappy then that Pochetino was making them do high intensity runs over and over again, so Lambert and one other senior player were appointed to speak to Pochetino and tell them the players felt they were being worked too hard. Supposedly Pochentino listened and smiled and said "okay" Lambert went back to the team to tell them it was sorted only for Pochetino to make them do even more runs at the next session. Lets hope new Ralph does the same.
Cabbage_Face Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11576833/ralph-hasenhuttl-very-intense-says-southamptons-matt-targett
mrfahaji Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Hoedt has made mistakes like that on a constant basis, but has got away with many of them. I want to be proved wrong with him, but having seen him play for Lazio and now us, I don't think it'll happen. Credit where it's due though, Hoedt normally makes the mistake in an area where he has chance to recover, make another mistake, recover, make another mistake - by which point the rest of the team have managed to get back to help him out (on a serious note, I don't think anyone has made a mistake as bad or in as critical a position as Vestergaard did on Saturday)
Cabbage_Face Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Credit where it's due though, Hoedt normally makes the mistake in an area where he has chance to recover, make another mistake, recover, make another mistake - by which point the rest of the team have managed to get back to help him out (on a serious note, I don't think anyone has made a mistake as bad or in as critical a position as Vestergaard did on Saturday) Lol. Sadly not as bad as that one Saturday. Usually a Yoshida trick that one.
It's There Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11576833/ralph-hasenhuttl-very-intense-says-southamptons-matt-targett Interesting read- thanks- sounds great- finally a manager who won't accept mediocre/poor!
BotleySaint Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Players with the right attitude will flourish. Those that do not have it will be left out. The Targett interview says it all!
S-Clarke Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 If we have players who are upset/already moaning about a new approach, then they know what they can do. To be fair it will probably equal most of the squad, but we need a cull here as the players we've accumulated is by far the worst bunch ever.
Give it to Ron Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 we are second from bottom due to those useless fckwits...my heart bleeds. To the Op can you get message back to who told you the feeling on this thread is we are delighted they are upset thats how most of us felt for the last 2 years! Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Manuel Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 "If they like to go this way with us, they are invited..." And if they don't like it they can leave.
beatlesaint Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Nobody likes it when a new manager comes in and makes you work hard. I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them having sat through a ton of ****e for the past two plus years.
Dr. Kucho Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I will be able to verify if this is true or not at some point today. I know that Klopp uses the same idea about training at the kick off times. Cheers LeG, any kind of info from the training ground is much appreciated. Can we say that until LeG, K Billy, Guan or ericb has confirmed this it’s no more then gossip?
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Not sure I believe this. Source? Ditto
Colinjb Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Even if this is not the case, that Targett is already commenting on the increased intensity and focus is encouraging. It just shows how far standards have slipped at the club, fingers crossed it's not too late to reverse this damage before the otherwise inevitable drop occurs.
jawillwill Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I actually feel some sympathy for the players. It must be really difficult for them, particularly if it is wet and cold outside.
OldNick Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I will be able to verify if this is true or not at some point today. I know that Klopp uses the same idea about training at the kick off times.its logical and very sensible. This type of thing Cortese brought to the club. The way they would take the mattresses to the hotels etc , it seems to have been binned
Micky Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 With all due respect I'm going to give this one a wide berth for now. I get that we are now in the snowflake generation, but I don't believe that professional sportsmen can't realise that they need a bloody great boot up the arse to improve performance.
northam soul Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Due to the way the body works coupled with eating patterns etc it is recommended by many top sports science people to train hard at roughly the time of day when you will be doing your race/run etc so makes perfect sense to me. I f they don't like it then it shows they have been far too pampered but IMO with what we have had to endure they are in no position to complain about it.
doddisalegend Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 Even if this is not the case, that Targett is already commenting on the increased intensity and focus is encouraging. It just shows how far standards have slipped at the club, fingers crossed it's not too late to reverse this damage before the otherwise inevitable drop occurs. I'm pretty sure all the players where banging on about better training with more intensity when Mope took over and then again when Hughes took over. It does seem to be a stock line that players wheel out every time they get a new manager.
S-Clarke Posted 10 December, 2018 Posted 10 December, 2018 I absolutley dispise this team. Get rid of the lot of them, horrible.
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