Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 appointing grey appointing wiggley appointing sturrock not chaining WGS to the stadium putting up a picture of a train instead of the greatest manager we have had appointing SCW and in turn, simon clifford (big LOL for that one) wanting Loc and Wotte before burley came along appointing Jan going on about klingons in the media stating we have some superb catering immediately after relegation Showing off about a letter at the recent AGM.. any others...? i left out the appointments of burley and arry as although they did not work out, they were clearly the best people reaslitcally availabe to us...why they did not work is another arguement..
Spades Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 appointing grey appointing wiggley appointing sturrock not chaining WGS to the stadium putting up a picture of a train instead of the greatest manager we have had appointing SCW and in turn, simon clifford (big LOL for that one) wanting Loc and Wotte before burley came along appointing Jan going on about klingons in the media stating we have some superb catering immediately after relegation Showing off about a letter at the recent AGM.. any others...? i left out the appointments of burley and arry as although they did not work out, they were clearly the best people reaslitcally availabe to us...why they did not work is another arguement.. I disagree that this was madness... the madness was in the sacking of Sturrock after such a short time IMO. He was and remains a very competant manager that could have taken us to the next level... or at least prevented us dropping down to where we find ourselves now
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Posted 18 January, 2009 I disagree that this was madness... the madness was in the sacking of Sturrock after such a short time IMO. He was and remains a very competant manager that could have taken us to the next level... or at least prevented us dropping down to where we find ourselves now lol anyone who appoints a manager from league 1 straight to the prem to a team that has aspirations for europe is an idiot... not once has it worked with such a jump to the prem...the latest candidate FAILED (ince)
pilsburydoughboy Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 That ruddy cheeked cretinous sheep farmer from Gloucester could not even get the ****ing chairs in the board room the right colour.
Spades Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 lol anyone who appoints a manager from league 1 straight to the prem to a team that has aspirations for europe is an idiot... not once has it worked with such a jump to the prem...the latest candidate FAILED (ince) Yeh i suppose i agree that we should have attracted a manager of a higher calibre... but once appointed Sturrock was never given the chance he deserved to make things work here, that was an even bigger mistake than bringing him in in the first place
saint1977 Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 appointing grey appointing wiggley appointing sturrock not chaining WGS to the stadium putting up a picture of a train instead of the greatest manager we have had appointing SCW and in turn, simon clifford (big LOL for that one) wanting Loc and Wotte before burley came along appointing Jan going on about klingons in the media stating we have some superb catering immediately after relegation Showing off about a letter at the recent AGM.. any others...? i left out the appointments of burley and arry as although they did not work out, they were clearly the best people reaslitcally availabe to us...why they did not work is another arguement.. - Creating an unsustainable overhead in the shape of the Dome - Releasing a statement last April undermining Pearson and aimed at de-stabilising SFC in a relegation battle - Using Charles Sale to snipe at the club when out of power - The amount of coaching staff - Wadsworth, Summerfield, Damiano - to name a few that have been paid off - Using PR plants on S4E - they were as subtle as a fart in Church!
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Posted 18 January, 2009 - - Using PR plants on S4E - they were as subtle as a fart in Church! oh yes....i remember those.. didnt one of his PR plants give the impression that the fella andrew stroude-gibbons had sex with animals..
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 lol anyone who appoints a manager from league 1 straight to the prem to a team that has aspirations for europe is an idiot... not once has it worked with such a jump to the prem...the latest candidate FAILED (ince) How many u-turns did you make before deciding this was your opinion?
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Posted 18 January, 2009 How many u-turns did you make before deciding this was your opinion? none where have I made a u-turn (much like your self imposed ban on SMS that you broke)
miserableoldgit Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 appointing grey appointing wiggley appointing sturrock not chaining WGS to the stadium putting up a picture of a train instead of the greatest manager we have had appointing SCW and in turn, simon clifford (big LOL for that one) wanting Loc and Wotte before burley came along appointing Jan going on about klingons in the media stating we have some superb catering immediately after relegation Showing off about a letter at the recent AGM.. any others...? i left out the appointments of burley and arry as although they did not work out, they were clearly the best people reaslitcally availabe to us...why they did not work is another arguement.. Saying that we had the best squad we had ever had at the beginning of the relegation season.
saint1977 Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 oh yes....i remember those.. didnt one of his PR plants give the impression that the fella andrew stroude-gibbons had sex with animals.. Yes, they were woeful! One re-appeared on here pre-XMAS under a similar-looking user name but vanished sharpish - the mods probably spotted it as well.
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 none where have I made a u-turn (much like your self imposed ban on SMS that you broke) The timing of breaking my boycott was rather good i think. Unlike you though i've been against Lowe and Portvliet from the word go. You on the other hand were singing both their praises early doors and ridiculing everyone who wasn't so naive.
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Posted 18 January, 2009 The timing of breaking my boycott was rather good i think. Unlike you though i've been against Lowe and Portvliet from the word go. You on the other hand were singing both their praises early doors and ridiculing everyone who wasn't so naive. i never sang their praises...I stated to people that I will wait and see before forming an opinion.... I love it though..you spent all year telling everyone to boycott then you go yourself.. "u-turn stanley" should be your new name...
Papa Shango Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 (edited) The whole Sturrock/Wigley farce at the start of the 2004/05 season. No way did we have the worst team player for player that season. If we'd have had a proper manager in charge the whole season we would have stayed up, instead Lowe gave Sturrock all summer to sign players, prepare the team etc when he knew he had doubts about him. Should have got rid of him from the start and put someone else in charge (or keep Sturrock for the whole season). Anyone with half a brain could see Wigley was completely out of his depth from day one. We dropped vital points against teams around us when that clown was in charge of us. Not backing the team enough during the relegation season and our first season in the Championship. Hate to say it but had we given Redknapp a bit more cash we would have almost certainly got automatic promotion. We still had the likes of Niemi and Walcott for the first half of that season. We were only a couple of players off a really good side (for the championship). Instead we were ****ing about with SCW, Clifford, eye gyms and all that crap. Getting shot of Pearson, a man who 95% of fans backed. He was the best thing to happen to us for a while, clearly a decent manager at this level, but he wasn't Lowe's man so he had to go. Some people say we can't afford him, but we managed to afford JP, Wotte, Gorre, Forecast, Pulis etc. Edited 18 January, 2009 by Papa Shango
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 How many u-turns did you make before deciding this was your opinion? Errr - TDD has been vehemently anti-Sturrock from day one. It's one of the few things I disagree with him about. I liked Luggy a lot, and have followed his (pretty successful) career since he left us. Not sure where you're going with this TDD baiting, Stanley. TDD doesn't change horses like you do on a daily basis - you'll praise the Echo to the skies if it prints something you like and then call it Rupert's propaganda machine the very next day if it prints something you don't. You change your opinions like you change your pants. And they both stink.
saint1977 Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 The whole Sturrock/Wigley farce at the start of the 2004/05 season. No way did we have the worst team player for player that season. If we'd have had a proper manager in charge the whole season we would have stayed up, instead Lowe gave Sturrock all summer to sign players, prepare the team etc when he knew he had doubts about him. Should have got rid of him from the start and put someone else in charge. Anyone with half a brain could see Wigley was completely out of his depth from day one. We dropped vital points against teams around us when that clown was in charge of us. Not backing the team enough during the relegation season and our first season in the Championship. Hate to say it but had we given Redknapp a bit more cash we would have almost certainly got automatic promotion. We still had the likes of Niemi and Walcott for the first half of that season. We were only a couple of players off a really good side (for the championship). Instead we were ****ing about with SCW, Clifford, eye gyms and all that crap. Getting shot of Pearson, a man who 95% of fans backed. He was the best thing to happen to us for a while, clearly a decent manager at this level, but he wasn't Lowe's man so he had to go. Some people say we can't afford him, but we managed to afford JP, Wotte, Gorre, Forecast, Pulis etc. Spot on. The SCW experiment would have been OK in the PL but at CCC level cost a lot of money and was unsustainable. Wasted the key first parachute season too - a fact ignored by Lowe's supporters.
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 i never sang their praises...I stated to people that I will wait and see before forming an opinion.... I love it though..you spent all year telling everyone to boycott then you go yourself.. "u-turn stanley" should be your new name... Delldays let's get this straight. I will never be a sheep like you who follows the crowd. I could find examples to back up what i'm saying (difficult as the find quotes feature only goes back 20 pages) but quite frankly would it really be worth bothering to go the effort? Simply put you just aren't worth the bother.
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Posted 18 January, 2009 Spot on. The SCW experiment would have been OK in the PL but at CCC level cost a lot of money and was unsustainable. Wasted the key first parachute season too - a fact ignored by Lowe's supporters. agree...looking back at the squad...arry wanted a striker and I will refuse to believe that he would not have got a half decent one for the reported £2m he wanted..with theo around the first team, belmadi niemi...we blew it
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Posted 18 January, 2009 Delldays let's get this straight. I will never be a sheep like you who follows the crowd. I could find examples to back up what i'm saying (difficult as the find quotes feature only goes back 20 pages) but quite frankly would it really be worth bothering to go the effort? Simply put you just aren't worth the bother. fair enough U-turn stanley
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 TDD doesn't change horses like you do on a daily basis - you'll praise the Echo to the skies if it prints something you like and then call it Rupert's propaganda machine the very next day if it prints something you don't. The Echo has been up Lowes arse for some time, but a recent article of theirs was different from the theme we were used to. I praised them for this and asked the question - have the echo turned on Lowe?
Thedelldays Posted 18 January, 2009 Author Posted 18 January, 2009 The Echo has been up Lowes arse for some time, but a recent article of their was different from the theme we were used to. I praised them for this and asked the question - have the echo turned on Lowe? so....you made a another u-turn on the echo as well as your self imposed ban on SMS...? hmmmmm
Mole Posted 18 January, 2009 Posted 18 January, 2009 so....you made a another u-turn on the echo as well as your self imposed ban on SMS...? hmmmmm DD i can now see why everyone on b-anter thought you were an utter ****.
Leslie Charteris Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 The responsibility for our current situation lies with one person, and one person alone, crazy or not.
eelpie Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Getting 90%+ approval from shareholders at the recent AGM, despite a vast majority of fans disapproving of him. How on earth did he manipulate That?
Colinjb Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Getting 90%+ approval from shareholders at the recent AGM, despite a vast majority of fans disapproving of him. How on earth did he manipulate That? His opposition walked out before the vote. Bravo to them. F**cking idiots.
St Marco Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Think unveiling Jan at a press conference as our new manager while he was a manager for another club who had no clue he was leaving has to be up there.
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 The timing of breaking my boycott was rather good i think. Unlike you though i've been against Lowe and Portvliet from the word go. You on the other hand were singing both their praises early doors and ridiculing everyone who wasn't so naive. Which is so unlike stanley.... pot kettle and black.
Saint Bones Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Think unveiling Jan at a press conference as our new manager while he was a manager for another club who had no clue he was leaving has to be up there. Wasn't that a red facer. I wonder if we can put the release of players private wage details to the press as well. of couorse we dont know for 'sure' who sent them. :cool:
JustMike Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 - only spending £90,000 when we got relegated after losing Crouch etc. - spending £90,000 on Fuller!!
alpine_saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Starting a feud with Spurs Appointing the Green Team (and then the remains of the 6:57 Crew) as stewards
The Majestic Channon Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Chorley, mcmillan and co warned us all in 96.
Snowballs2 Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Delldays let's get this straight. I will never be a sheep like you who follows the crowd. I could find examples to back up what i'm saying (difficult as the find quotes feature only goes back 20 pages) but quite frankly would it really be worth bothering to go the effort? Simply put you just aren't worth the bother. Can we please stop fighting each other and turn our thoughts and energy into getting Lowe ,Wilde and Portaloo out of our club forever. There is still time to save the season from total disaster, but, not if we keep fighting amongst ourselves.
docker-p Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Thinking a no mark manager from the Dutch semi-pro leagues was a better bet than Nigel Pearson. And not realising that very return would knock a further 5K off the matchday attendance.
derry Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 His opposition walked out before the vote. Bravo to them. F**cking idiots. There wasn't enough opposition. If every non axis shareholder had turned up and voted against the board they would have lost. Lowe and Co tabled about 95% of the votes that they controlled, the more than 50% that didn't attend could have beaten Lowe. There was no point in voting in a pre ordained result.
southamptonfclegend Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 lol anyone who appoints a manager from league 1 straight to the prem to a team that has aspirations for europe is an idiot... not once has it worked with such a jump to the prem...the latest candidate FAILED (ince) completely different... when he had managed St Johnstone 1993-98 dundee utd 1998-2000 plymouth 2000-2004 and when we had appointed him Plymouth had been all but promoted to the championship... where as ince had only got Mk Dons to promotion to league 1
PaulSaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Was Lowe in charge when we commisioned the first statue?
Andy_Porter Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Not backing Pearson was a stupid decision, still don't understand the thinking behind that one. He had experience working with the squad, experience working with youngsters (u21's) and if we had 1.2m to spend on Schneiderlin we clearly had enough money to pay Pearsons wages. He had even shown he wasn't scared to chuck youngsters into the team off the top of my head Lallana, Poke, Gillett, Baseya and McGoldrick where all involved with the first team during his stint. Basically just getting rid of a manager because he didn't like the people who appointed him in the first place, such a petty thing to do which sums up Lowe perfectly. I honestly think with Pearson in charge we would be midtable with 17-18k at every match, would probably be a lot more direct than our tinkle toed triangle **** atm but it would be far more effective. Come back big Nige
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Posted 19 January, 2009 completely different... when he had managed St Johnstone 1993-98 dundee utd 1998-2000 plymouth 2000-2004 and when we had appointed him Plymouth had been all but promoted to the championship... where as ince had only got Mk Dons to promotion to league 1 well..he has harldy been sniffed at by any club of note in the prem since...
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 - only spending £90,000 when we got relegated after losing Crouch etc. - spending £90,000 on Fuller!! That was down to Redkrapp only spending £90k of the £2million he had to spend.
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Posted 19 January, 2009 That was down to Redkrapp only spending £90k of the £2million he had to spend. you really believe that...? arry gets slated for being a cheque book manager and will you say he would not spend the little he had..? rubbish
lumpofshipperley Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 lol anyone who appoints a manager from league 1 straight to the prem to a team that has aspirations for europe is an idiot... not once has it worked with such a jump to the prem...the latest candidate FAILED (ince) No what happens is that ex football stars with NO experience get hired to manage premiership teams. With mixed success. What does that tell you eh? The answer is not much but is just as valid as your Ince example.
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Posted 19 January, 2009 No what happens is that ex football stars with NO experience get hired to manage premiership teams. With mixed success. What does that tell you eh? The answer is not much but is just as valid as your Ince example. to be fair...even that is a dodgy road to go down...hughes has done well, but then he was manager of wales before blackburn... southgate is sinking...keane flopped...tony adams is just odd cant think of too many success stories that has gone from player straight to manager either..
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 you really believe that...? arry gets slated for being a cheque book manager and will you say he would not spend the little he had..? rubbish Ha threw his dummy out of the pram because he couldn't get what he wanted not that I disagree as Arry should of got who he wanted within a reasonable price range.
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 completely different... when he had managed St Johnstone 1993-98 dundee utd 1998-2000 plymouth 2000-2004 and when we had appointed him Plymouth had been all but promoted to the championship... where as ince had only got Mk Dons to promotion to league 1 Don't waste your breath with facts in an arguement with Delldays. He has a personal vendetta against Sturrock for some reason. Anyone who saw Saints play when Sturrock was manager will know we played some great football and his record was fairly decent.
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 to be fair...even that is a dodgy road to go down...hughes has done well, but then he was manager of wales before blackburn... southgate is sinking...keane flopped...tony adams is just odd cant think of too many success stories that has gone from player straight to manager either.. Tony Mowberry - Hibs/WBA Chris Coleman - Fulham Keane - Sunderland - bottom of league to championship/promotion in first season. Vialli - Chelsea Gillett - Chelsea Zola - Italy u21/West Ham Hoddle - Swindon Keegan - Newcastle Venables - Palace Strachan - Coventry Martinez - Swansea Simpson - Carlisle Gannon - Stockport Ferguson -P'Boro Coyle - Motherwell/Burnley McLeish - Hibs/Rangers/Scotland Dalglish - Liverpool/Blackburn
Mole Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 Don't waste your breath with facts in an arguement with Delldays. He has a personal vendetta against Sturrock for some reason. Anyone who saw Saints play when Sturrock was manager will know we played some great football and his record was fairly decent. We'd made a decent start to the season when lowe sacked him if memory serves me right. hadn't we just won 2-0 or something against Blackburn(?)
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 We'd made a decent start to the season when lowe sacked him if memory serves me right. hadn't we just won 2-0 or something against Blackburn(?) Lost away to villa opening game. Won 3-2 v Blackburn at first home game. Sturrock out of job following day. Under Sturrock i saw some great games away to Man City and Wolves and home v Liverpool etc.
JustMike Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 That was down to Redkrapp only spending £90k of the £2million he had to spend. no, that was down to lowe not wanting to spend any money, something in which he has become an expert in
Berkshire Saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Posted 19 January, 2009 no, that was down to lowe not wanting to spend any money, something in which he has become an expert in We had bids of around £2m accepted for Clinton Morrison and Diomansy Kamara that summer.
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