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SuperSAINT

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Little snippet from the Echo:

 

After returning home in the early hours the squad would normally come in for a gentle recovery session in the morning, but Hasenhuttl has rescheduled it for the afternoon in a bid to get the players a little fresher and start working through his ideas with them. He will then only have more session with the team tomorrow before they travel to Wales to take on Cardiff on Saturday.

 

Source: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17277680.ralph-hasenhuttl-will-today-take-charge-of-his-first-southampton-training-session/

shurlock

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It is still striking how quickly Poch was able to convey his ideas to the squad - the change was evident as early as the everton game. Perhaps Hasenhuttl will be similarly fortunate, though unlike Poch, he's inheriting a squad that's devoid of confidence.

SuperSAINT

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It is still striking how quickly Poch was able to convey his ideas to the squad - the change was evident as early as the everton game. Perhaps Hasenhuttl will be similarly fortunate, though unlike Poch, he's inheriting a squad that's devoid of confidence.

 

Yeah, I was thinking about that game. I wonder how the mentality of the squads compare?

Downthe36

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It is still striking how quickly Poch was able to convey his ideas to the squad - the change was evident as early as the everton game. Perhaps Hasenhuttl will be similarly fortunate, though unlike Poch, he's inheriting a squad that's devoid of confidence.

 

Didn't Poch have a week with them in Barcelona though? Or was that later on?

shurlock

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Didn't Poch have a week with them in Barcelona though? Or was that later on?

 

Think it was after the Everton game and before the United game (where fergie claimed we were the best team to play at OT in the second half).

GGalpin

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Think he was appointed on a Friday & had the Everton game on a Monday.

 

It was the day after we played Chelsea, which I think was a Wednesday night. Barcelona came later as it was FA Cup fourth round weekend and we'd been knocked out in the third round by Chelsea, if memory serves me correctly.

VectisSaint

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Didn't Poch have a week with them in Barcelona though? Or was that later on?

Poch also had a team of coaches to assist, it concerns me more than a bit that Ralph H hasn't yet brought anyone in (he is bringing someone soon according to Blackmore) and will have to rely on Watson and Davis to work the team and get his ideas across. Can't see how he can make a huge impression in 2 sessions. Also not sure that he is very defensive minded, which is the area we need to work to improve - I'm guessing thats where he sees his new assistant coming in.

Secret Site Agent

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The thing is, and I suppose I have been in a similar sort of position except building stuff not kicking a ball around, is that you know before hand where you are going and what you are inheriting in theory so will have a short term plan to turn things around quickly, get some confidence back, and start to see some quick results and minor changes for the better, before you can make some bigger, permanent changes.

 

I think he already has an idea on how Cardiff play, how to thwart them, and who to use in the team, and who to have on the bench. Hi target would be to stop them playing. Any goals would be a bonus at this short stage. But I am sure that Kelvin et al already have an idea on what he wanted them to aim for.

 

Plus, I also think that he'll take aside those that lack confidence and give them some hope. He would be a fool not to.

 

The above I have tried in the past taking over failing and dodgy sites. It has worked more often than not.

Nordic Saint

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Poch also had a team of coaches to assist, it concerns me more than a bit that Ralph H hasn't yet brought anyone in (he is bringing someone soon according to Blackmore) and will have to rely on Watson and Davis to work the team and get his ideas across. Can't see how he can make a huge impression in 2 sessions. Also not sure that he is very defensive minded, which is the area we need to work to improve - I'm guessing thats where he sees his new assistant coming in.

 

What have these 2 ex-goalkeepers done over the last two years to suggest they are good enough to be first team coaches to the outfield players of a Premier League team??? Davis was promoted from his job in hospitality, without any previous coaching experience, on the strength of the fact he'd just passed a coaching course, while Watson seems to have moved from being more or less Fraser Forster's personal coach to becoming increasingly involved under Pellegrino and Hughes with the the coaching of the outfield players. Pellegrino and Hughes may have been replaced but we are still stuck with the same disappointing first team coaches who failed with them.

Greenridge

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He's only got tomorrow evening with the players for a session before Saturday's game. His focus is on the defence. Not surprisingly.

 

You'd better be prepared to work, both on and off the pitch, if you want a spot in this team!

DT

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What have these 2 ex-goalkeepers done over the last two years to suggest they are good enough to be first team coaches to the outfield players of a Premier League team??? Davis was promoted from his job in hospitality, without any previous coaching experience, on the strength of the fact he'd just passed a coaching course, while Watson seems to have moved from being more or less Fraser Forster's personal coach to becoming increasingly involved under Pellegrino and Hughes with the the coaching of the outfield players. Pellegrino and Hughes may have been replaced but we are still stuck with the same disappointing first team coaches who failed with them.

 

This is the big worry, but I got flak for doubting the club legend that is Davis (a journeyman goalkeeper glued to his line for his career). We needed a cleaner break. Hope he can bring in an outfield player coach (not too much to ask surely)

Depressed of Shirley

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It was the day after we played Chelsea, which I think was a Wednesday night. Barcelona came later as it was FA Cup fourth round weekend and we'd been knocked out in the third round by Chelsea, if memory serves me correctly.

 

Adkins was definitely sacked on the Friday after that game at Chelsea.

Saint-Fred

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Are all the loan players out for the season or can they be pulled back? It will be interesting to see whether he wants the opportunity to work with them before deciding to get rid ( be that now or in the summer)

supersonic

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Are all the loan players out for the season or can they be pulled back? It will be interesting to see whether he wants the opportunity to work with them before deciding to get rid ( be that now or in the summer)

 

Sims can be recalled in January

SuperSAINT

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Sims can be recalled in January

 

Might not be the worst idea (especially if he doesn't feature under their new manager).

 

We could bring him back & keep him around if he impresses, or send him back out again to somewhere where he will get more game time.

Suhari

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Pretty sure whatever he is saying starts with an 'F'....

 

And is that JWP lacking focus and struggling to find his place with the rest of the photo?

Greenridge

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Pretty sure whatever he is saying starts with an 'F'....

 

And is that JWP lacking focus and struggling to find his place with the rest of the photo?

 

I’m assuming it’s players who didn’t feature yesterday or didn’t start. He said in the presser that he only had one session tomorrow evening with the team before Saturday as they were on a rest day today after last nights game.

derry

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I think it was reported they were all scheduled in in the morning for a recovery session but Hasenhuttl (Haasenhoootle he says) changed it to have everyone in in the afternoon.

LGTL

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I think it was reported they were all scheduled in in the morning for a recovery session but Hasenhuttl (Haasenhoootle he says) changed it to have everyone in in the afternoon.

 

A wise move. Have never understood those pointless hour sessions. Get them in at midday, recovery work and then onto something else, even if it’s just analysis/meetings. Why can’t they be at training until 5 or 6 in the evening?

BARCELONASAINT

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A wise move. Have never understood those pointless hour sessions. Get them in at midday, recovery work and then onto something else, even if it’s just analysis/meetings. Why can’t they be at training until 5 or 6 in the evening?

 

I love the thought of telling our pampered players that they are actually going to do something close to a full days work instead of being able to go home and play on the Xbox or down the golf course etc.......poor souls can you imagine it :lol:

beatlesaint

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I love the thought of telling our pampered players that they are actually going to do something close to a full days work instead of being able to go home and play on the Xbox or down the golf course etc.......poor souls can you imagine it :lol:

 

I feel exactly the same - start earning your money you pampered ****ers - 5 wins in 46 games :x

StrangelyBrown

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What have these 2 ex-goalkeepers done over the last two years to suggest they are good enough to be first team coaches to the outfield players of a Premier League team??? Davis was promoted from his job in hospitality, without any previous coaching experience, on the strength of the fact he'd just passed a coaching course, while Watson seems to have moved from being more or less Fraser Forster's personal coach to becoming increasingly involved under Pellegrino and Hughes with the the coaching of the outfield players. Pellegrino and Hughes may have been replaced but we are still stuck with the same disappointing first team coaches who failed with them.

 

Is Davis the new Eric Black??? Or is Watson. I'm so confused.

 

Who am I supposed to hate now?

 

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Nordic Saint

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Is Davis the new Eric Black??? Or is Watson. I'm so confused.

 

Who am I supposed to hate now?

 

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I can see that you're confused, Strangely, but take a deep breath and try to stay calm. You're not supposed to hate anyone. We have a good new manager and things are looking up.

obelisk

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I suspect the new man in charge will have already noticed that fitness levels, both physical & mental, are not good enough to survive at Premiership level. If he can do something about that then we might stand a chance of surviving this campaign.

Patrick Bateman

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I suspect the new man in charge will have already noticed that fitness levels, both physical & mental, are not good enough to survive at Premiership level. If he can do something about that then we might stand a chance of surviving this campaign.

 

To be honest, I think ANYONE (other than the previous 2 managers) could see their fitness levels were utterly utterly dreadful, especially when you watch them against Spurs.

Pilchards

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I wanna see at least three or four of our players on the floor, face down, puking in exhaustion.

 

IMHO that won’t happen today as we have a match on Saturday.

I reckon that will be Tuesday next week.

Might pop along for a laugh.

benjii

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I wanna see at least three or four of our players on the floor, face down, puking in exhaustion.

 

I won't be pleased unless one of them dies.

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