steveo Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 we simply do not have enough points. We will lose against Arsenal and Spuds, that leaves Huders away and WHU at fortress St Mary`s followed by another defeat at the hands of City, so a very hard away game followed by the happy hammers to get some more points. IF we manage a draw and a win, then we go into 2019 on 13 points. Not enough. RH I`m sure will be a good manager but he is not a magician, he does not have a magic wand that he waves and makes our crappy defence good, our non goal scoring attack score goals. On top of this, we will have to sell before we buy, and who would actually PAY us for our players?? So are we going down. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 No. We should not go down. The squad is stuck in a rut, but it is not a bad squad. good management and coaching will lift us out of the rut. The gap is not wide. There are seven of us at the bottom making almost a league of our own. We will end the season at the top of the seven. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 Unless Ralph turns them around I think we are down, but I hope he does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Whats the Prem relegation odds atm? I guess you wouldnt get decent odds on a combined Saints relegation/Pompey promotion bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Couldn't give a damm either way to much money in football thesedays I'm growing tired of the circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 We need to win 10 of the remaining 22. We've won 1 in what feels like the last 100. All we can do is hope that Ralph is about to be our best ever manager. I will tattoo his face all over my body if he does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 We need to win 10 of the remaining 22. We've won 1 in what feels like the last 100. All we can do is hope that Ralph is about to be our best ever manager. I will tattoo his face all over my body if he does it. You believe Burnley will win 9 of their remaining 22, having won 3/16 so far? At the current rate, someone will stay up on about 30 points, which is something like 5 wins and 6 draws for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 You believe Burnley will win 9 of their remaining 22, having won 3/16 so far? At the current rate, someone will stay up on about 30 points, which is something like 5 wins and 6 draws for us.I believe nothing at this point, and I hope for the best. Good luck fellow human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 We need to win 10 of the remaining 22. We've won 1 in what feels like the last 100. All we can do is hope that Ralph is about to be our best ever manager. I will tattoo his face all over my body if he does it. As someone said, when the wolf is chasing you, you don't have to out run it, just the fat kid (or in our case, 3 fat kids). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 I think winning 11 matches just to stay up is unnecessary largesse and we don't need to try that hard. 8 wins probably enough to get fourth bottom this season and honestly that's enouugh of a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 Even 8 wins seems unlikely from this group of losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 We have won 1 game out of 16. We have only won 1 home game in the last year. We have 22 games left. So, on current form, you'd expect 1 or 2 more wins. A big improvement might give us 4 or 5. It would be a massive turnaround if we managed to win 8. Under Puel, when we finished 8th, we won 7 of or last 22 games. We all believe we have the right manager for the task but the question is do we have the right players? Winning the first of those games on Sunday would show that we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 Maybe being a Saints fan of many years, has hardened me to expect hope turning to disappointment more often than not. Many times this season (and some last) performances have momentarily given hope, only for them to be dashed by lack of application. Ralph seems to have the chat to stiffen the application, its whether the players have the ability to apply it, as the degrees of separation between success and disappointment are not quite yet a chasm that can't be bridged. The answer to the OP should be easier to answer once Christmas is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 You believe Burnley will win 9 of their remaining 22, having won 3/16 so far? At the current rate, someone will stay up on about 30 points, which is something like 5 wins and 6 draws for us. Yes, I agree. I think 32 or 33 should be enough to stay up, provided we don't keep giving 3 points to the likes of Cardiff and Fulham. I would say 7 wins and a few draws should hopefully be enough, or 6 wins and a bunch of draws. The old 40 point mantra is bull. We've got Cardiff, Fulham, Huddersfield, Wolves, Palace to play at home plus Burnley and Newcastle away. At some point we will beat a mid-table team too. So it's doable, although we don't have much margin for error left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 13 December, 2018 Share Posted 13 December, 2018 In the great escape of 1998/99 (is it really 20 years ago?) we had 10 points after 16 games and lost game number 17. We were in the bottom three the entire season until three games from the end. Finished on 41 points. So it can be done. What made the difference that season was after Christmas 1998 we started winning all our home games. Think that this is where we need to see the change this season. Plus I don't think that we will need 41 points to survive this season. My guess is that 34-35 points will be enough. But we need to see signs of improvement really quickly to have a chance. Be interesting to see where we are a month from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 In the great escape of 1998/99 (is it really 20 years ago?) we had 10 points after 16 games and lost game number 17. We were in the bottom three the entire season until three games from the end. Finished on 41 points. So it can be done. What made the difference that season was after Christmas 1998 we started winning all our home games. Think that this is where we need to see the change this season. Plus I don't think that we will need 41 points to survive this season. My guess is that 34-35 points will be enough. But we need to see signs of improvement really quickly to have a chance. Be interesting to see where we are a month from now. Arsenal = loss Huddersfield = Draw/possible narrow win West Ham = loss Man City = Loss I predict three points at best from that lot, anyone think we can get 6 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 We need to win 10 of the remaining 22. Highly unlikely that we do need to win that many. Absolutely certain that we won't. 7 (as last season) or 8 in total will probably be enough to scrape our sorry arses into another season in this league. That still equates to a spectacular turnaround in form. Over to you Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 You believe Burnley will win 9 of their remaining 22, having won 3/16 so far? At the current rate, someone will stay up on about 30 points, which is something like 5 wins and 6 draws for us. With the ever increasing disparity between top and bottom I expect 30 to become the new benchmark for staying up over the next few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 No. We will buy a CB and a fast, goal-scoring forward. We will get fitter. We will reduce the number of individual defensive errors. We will finish more of the chances we create. Confidence will pick up. We will stay up. Keep the faith. Hasenhutl proves to be a lion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Calm down people! There are only 5 points separating the bottom 7. We’re hardly cut adrift in desperate need of a Great Escape. All we have to do over the next 22 games is get 1 more point than Fulham, 2 more points than Huddersfield and 4 more points than either Burnley or Palace. I think we might get worse for 2 or 3 games before Ralph’s methods take effect (and we may even be bottom at Christmas), but in Ralph I trust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Calm down people! There are only 5 points separating the bottom 7. We’re hardly cut adrift in desperate need of a Great Escape. All we have to do over the next 22 games is get 1 more point than Fulham, 2 more points than Huddersfield and 4 more points than either Burnley or Palace. I think we might get worse for 2 or 3 games before Ralph’s methods take effect (and we may even be bottom at Christmas), but in Ralph I trust! Totally agree. The most pleasing thing is over the next two years we are are going to discover some hidden gems in our club. Nothing better than one of your own preforming on the big stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 I genuinely think we will win our next 3 games. Arsenal problems at back with no CBs to play Huddersfield going to miss Mooy Coupled with 2 full weeks of Ralph’s training with Ings and Cedric back. Then West Ham - look a very decent side again now but we will then have our belief back. And all their foreign players will be bemoaning playing at Christmas so won’t be up for it. Simple and I have ignored our inept defence of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Clearly our CB problem is whats going to kill us I think, we have 5 players who have been tried in various combinations this season, none of which has worked effectively. There was a clamour for Yoshi to play, and he has lately and has looked as poor as any of them. All 5 I think would make reasonable "junior" partners alongside a class senior player (VVD, Fonte and the like), but we no longer have a player of that calibre. The Cardiff game was a defensive shambles at times, as was Fulham. Arsenal will be a severe test, they are developing into a serious top 4 side. If we're not in their faces for 90 minutes they will pick us apart at will. I'm glad that we have RH now after 2 previous managerial disasters. It's been hinted that he may leave if we go down which would be a shame. If we do go down, which I think we will, he should stay and develop the team even if it means a couple of seasons in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 December, 2018 Share Posted 17 December, 2018 From Stoke forum Why Southampton may stay up vs Stoke City https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=93376&share_tid=284450&url=https%3A%2F%2Foatcakefanzine%2Eproboards%2Ecom%2Fthread%2F284450&share_type=t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 December, 2018 Share Posted 17 December, 2018 The ever generous bookies have 4 teams as odds-on to go down. Ridiculous. We ain’t one of them of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 December, 2018 Share Posted 17 December, 2018 Not now, no Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 17 December, 2018 Share Posted 17 December, 2018 Need to see it over a few games before we get too excited. Remember Carvalhal at Swansea, came in won away at Watford and then beat Liverpool and Arsenal.... Then lost 6 and drew 3 of the last 9!! Will take a little while yet to fully beat 2.5 years of crap outta us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 December, 2018 Share Posted 17 December, 2018 If we can keep the level of the 1st half performance up for the rest of the season we might well stay up. I doubt we will beat any of the top six again this season but playing like we did yesterday should see us pick up a lot more points from the other sides in yye league All depends if the players can keep the energy levels and fitness to play like that week in week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolokov Posted 22 December, 2018 Share Posted 22 December, 2018 Just watching the Sunderland Netflix doco.. Just acts as a great reminder of how depressing and destructive relegation is. Something for the bellends on here who thought going down might be the best thing for us. Anway, onwards and upwards with 3 points today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 22 December, 2018 Author Share Posted 22 December, 2018 I still think 4/1 is fairly generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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