benali-shorts Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Many congratulations on a masterclass of utter incompetence at both ends of the pitch. Haven't seen anything like that since Alan Bennett or Ollie Lanca****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Terrible player Nice polite guy though Oh n loyal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 You must be mistaken, when Hughes didn’t play him there were all sorts of conspiracy theories as to why not given he was apparently a world class defender. Him being as **** as are other centre backs wasn’t one of those theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 If I am being ultra-generous to him, I would say that he has shown in the past he needs to have a good run in the side with a regular partner to be anything close to decent. In the back half of 16/17 when we sold Fonte and lost VVD to injury, he and Stephens played together every week and he was a lot better then than he has been this season. Not amazing, granted, but certainly not at the level of muppetry we saw tonight. But if we're serious about reviving our ambitions with the new manager then we desperately need to upgrade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Our CB’s are pretty much as bad as one another. Any coach is going to struggle with that roster. You’ve got to have some level of ability for the coach to build on. Good luck with that one Ralph. I don’t blame the players. I blame the recruitment. To think we’ve lost the likes of Toby, Jose, VvD and Lovren in recent years and this is the level we’re left with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted 5 December, 2018 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2018 It's amazing that we've managed to gather an entire collection of centre backs who, between them all, cover the entire spectrum of chronic failings in centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Think that's a little harsh on him tonight! The way we were set up, there were big gaps in midfield when they countered/flooded forward in the 1st half and our defenders were often running back towards their own goal whilst looking over their shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 It's amazing that we've managed to gather an entire collection of centre backs who, between them all, cover the entire spectrum of chronic failings in centre backs. So true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 They are all utter f**king garbage. But where is Bednarek? Is he dead!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 It's amazing that we've managed to gather an entire collection of centre backs who, between them all, cover the entire spectrum of chronic failings in centre backs. Another outsatnding achievement by Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted 5 December, 2018 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Think that's a little harsh on him tonight! The way we were set up, there were big gaps in midfield when they countered/flooded forward in the 1st half and our defenders were often running back towards their own goal whilst looking over their shoulders. But tonight his errors were basic tracking, positioning in the box, turning his back, total lack of anticipation, cowardice, malcoordination, and managing to miss from 30cm. I honestly think my labrador would have been more useful. And she died in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 He's sh1te but so are all our other defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Has been hanging round Hoedt too long Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 RaHa is going to have his work but out if he's going to get MaYo and WeHo performing to any kind of Premier League level. YaVe has been a disappointment so far and where the hell is JaBe? From performing in the World Cup with his country to not even making the bench for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 2 games in a row now that his awful positioning has cost us. Like others have said and like it was said when we sold VVD. To have him as back up is ok, to have him as a starting cb shows how desperate we are atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 A very dozy player who needs a leader alongside him to keep him on his toes. Sadly we don’t have that. Can’t believe that 2 years on from our cup final when we were supposedly in a defensive crisis mode (with Fonte having left and VvD injured) that we still have the exact same CB pairing. Pretty damning indictment of our recruitment since then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya's Dad Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 am his biggest supporter but how sh1te has he been whenever he's played this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 He's sh1te but so are all our other defenders. I wonder though if it isn't all down to the players, but the defensive coaching at the club. We could be buying polished turds and scouring the shine off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 They are all utter f**king garbage. But where is Bednarek? Is he dead!?He's waiting for his turn to be put in the firing line then declared the worst of the lot. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 All of our CB's look championship standard at the moment...and although I don't think any of them are great - you have to start asking the question whether it's more to do with tactics / setup. They are given basically zero protection from our midfield, there were so many times last night that there was a ridiculous amount of space in our midfield. The only way of us sorting that out, would be to stick another midfielder in there to shore things up, Romeu probably the best option to sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 He's had solid spells in the past next to VVD. But he will always be dreadful. Let's not forget how often he used to play through balls for opposition strikers towards our own goal. His name on the team sheet used to almost guarantee defeat. Loyal but terrible player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 He's been very poor of late but that's not surprising. He's exactly the type of the player that gets better with a run of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 Our recruitment has been disappointing which is not just a matter of opinion, it is a fact because they are all out on loan or on the subs bench, juat not good enough. how come the guy in charge of recruitment--Wilson---is the one who has survived the management purge? We've wasted millions and millions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 Did you not witness callum Davenport? Many congratulations on a masterclass of utter incompetence at both ends of the pitch. Haven't seen anything like that since Alan Bennett or Ollie Lanca****e. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 He’s a nice guy and good for the dressing room though so it’s fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 It's the ****ing zonal marking that none of them understand. All of them standing around in their box while the attackers are free to move around while they look at each other and do nothing. Although against United he failed to tackle ruthlessly but waved a foot at the ball allowing two goals. Targett frigging about last night a la Bertrand v Everton and Hoedt recently, stick it in row Z FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 7 December, 2018 Share Posted 7 December, 2018 What a load of ****e, Maya has come into a team that is massively underperforming and in particular the centre halves none of whom have had a run apart from Hoedt. Vesterguard might be a great defender in any other league but in the Premiership which is played at a much faster pace than elsewhere he looks like an oil tanker, Hoedt is just terrible full stop, Stephens shows potential but needs a reliable and experienced partner, Bednarek is the same. Maya should start alongside the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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