trousers Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 Love the groundwork going on here with the backhanded support you're giving, means your posts can be read both ways. You really are an old pro at this.Some might say it's "textbook"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conaero Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 This is looking highly likely and feel a part of the deal is Mitchel as DOF. Exciting times and at last feeling more positive about Saints. A draw on Wednesday and a win at the weekend I am predicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 If anyone can sort this team out..... It sounds like a great appointment, and a long overdue lift for long suffering fans. I just hope the new manager is given a bit of time to sort things out - there's still a lot of dross in this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 I believe the squad is strong and has a lot of talent it just needs good management ie coaching and togetherness not constant changes every week. If Romeu rediscovers his defensive role and Redmond is used as speedy winger it will change for the better at both ends. The loser will be Austin and possibly Davis which is sad because he is a real professional and has given us a lot. This squad properly used and fit will be good to watch---you gotta believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 https://www.kleinezeitung.at/sport/fussball/international/5540740/Erster-Oesterreicher-in-der-Premier-League_Ralph-Hasenhuettl-neuer It's all gone very quickly. On Monday, Mark Hughes was fired as Southampton FC coach. The name Ralph Hasenhüttl quickly ghosted through the British media that he was the first contender to succeed him. Then in the evening, the decision was made. The 51-year-old Styrian takes over the traditional club, becoming the first Austrian coach in the English Premier League. Hasenhüttl will be officially unveiled on Tuesday. The contract, as the Kleine Zeitung learned, has already been signed. The Austrian had ended his involvement with RB Leipzig last May. Now he's back in full business. Hope this is correct. Until announced I remain concerned that he'll be subject to a late tap up, from Bayern Munich to take over there or wait until the summer, and we'll be left with one of the journeymen mentioned earlier ( Sousa or QSF). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 Not sure why everyone is quite so down on the centre backs. We've been rubbish but badly mismanaged. We've had back 3s back 4s and zero consistency in selection, with often no help defending from the front. Never seen a decent defence that didn't play together most weeks. Jesus badly mis-managed? They struggle with the basics of defending half the time we aren't talking tactics or fitness just basic things a bunch of players who have come through academy systems should have had drilled into them since boyhood. Simple things like knowing when its on to play out from the back and when to just smash it into row z, getting goal side of your man, being aware of who is around you and not getting sucked into the ball and out of position, standing a man up and not diving in, being able to head a ball away from your goal the sort of stuff that should be second nature to a highly paid PL CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Jesus badly mis-managed? They struggle with the basics of defending half the time we aren't talking tactics or fitness just basic things a bunch of players who have come through academy systems should have had drilled into them since boyhood. Simple things like knowing when its on to play out from the back and when to just smash it into row z, getting goal side of your man, being aware of who is around you and not getting sucked into the ball and out of position, standing a man up and not diving in, being able to head a ball away from your goal the sort of stuff that should be second nature to a highly paid PL CB. He’s a bit of a loon, obsessed about us having an amazing squad and all the managers fault. MP and MH are poor managers but our squad is on its arse. We need 2/3 new CB’s with the onus on pace and strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind Enemy Lines Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Some might say it's "textbook"... 9.6 out of ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Well I'm really excited about this guy Hassenhuttl. Wasn't on my radar (which is mostly switched off anyway) but sounds exactly like who we need to revitalise the team, get the best out of what we've got and attract some decent signings/ make needed changes in the next couple of transfer windows. Just the belief we might play some decent attacking football again - and maybe even win a game goodness! Credit where credit is due...if this all happens...the board will have made some bold and significant moves in time to salvage the season and build for next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Like 8th actually on a decent number of points with a decent number of wins and a few goals and some good football and players getting better rather than worse? Yes, me too. Would be a thousand times better than the Puel season and a billion times better than Pellegrino or Hughes. Well at least we are in agreement that Puel is a million times better than Pellegrino and Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Would defintely get Sims back. This manager could be the making of Sims and Redmond IMO. Sims doesn't get into one of the worst teams in the Championship. Ralph may well get the best out of our players; Gabbiadini, Redmond, Yoshida, Bertrand, Cedric and Romeu, for example, haven't performed at their best for a while. Some players like Sims, JWP, Long and Austin just aren't good enough and no manager is going to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Think both PEJ and big V are currently doing some extra running. Bet they are the experts in the dressing room on the new manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Sims doesn't get into one of the worst teams in the Championship. Ralph may well get the best out of our players; Gabbiadini, Redmond, Yoshida, Bertrand, Cedric and Romeu, for example, haven't performed at their best for a while. Some players like Sims, JWP, Long and Austin just aren't good enough and no manager is going to change that. Yoshida has been under-played, he hasn't under-performed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Sims doesn't get into one of the worst teams in the Championship. Ralph may well get the best out of our players; Gabbiadini, Redmond, Yoshida, Bertrand, Cedric and Romeu, for example, haven't performed at their best for a while. Some players like Sims, JWP, Long and Austin just aren't good enough and no manager is going to change that.But of an odd thing to say. The other ones you mention have all had numerous chances with us, sims has looked great on the very few chances he has had. I see no reason not to give him a go and see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Great appointment if we get it over the line. Still a lot of work to be done but having a united fanbase will help massively. Nice also to feel there is still a semblance of ambition and strategy left at the club. Penny for Austin’s thoughts on the gegenpress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Well Gao seems to have woken up and taken control of the muppet show ousting Les and Hughes. I assume he has got fed up with the hands off, leave it to Ralph and Reed approach? This is a big test now, can he deliver a quality manager or is this another Promes situation? Or is this just all Ralph welding the axe to save his own job? If it's Ralph then I wouldn't hold my breath as to the appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Whether it is Gao, Nelly, Ralph, or a committee, it looks more decisive than the past 2-3 years. The fact that we sack one and almost sign the replacement immediately proves that somebody, somewhere was doing something. Obviously the proof is delivered once it is all confirmed, but for the time being the noises are promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 I thought it was impossible for anyone at saints to make a good managerial appointment, as no-one left had any ‘football experience’? Despite said football experience landing us two terrible managers in a row, previously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 I thought it was impossible for anyone at saints to make a good managerial appointment, as no-one left had any ‘football experience’? Despite said football experience landing us two terrible managers in a row, previously? It hasn't actually happened yet so I'm not getting excited until it is confirmed. The last few years the club have become masters of this sort of name dropping, giving the impression its as good as done, in the press only for all it to all fall through at the last minute due to some unforeseen issue that wasn't their fault. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we ended up with someone completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 But of an odd thing to say. The other ones you mention have all had numerous chances with us, sims has looked great on the very few chances he has had. I see no reason not to give him a go and see what he can do. I'm staggered that anyone who thinks a player who can't eat into a poor Reading team will improve ours. I agree with lighthouse, he's not quite good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Sounds like a promising development, albeit a bit of an unknown. I do wonder if Mitchell was consulted in the appointment...quite possible ties had not been broken with back room senior management. Bring it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 I'm staggered that anyone who thinks a player who can't eat into a poor Reading team will improve ours. I agree with lighthouse, he's not quite good enough.Based on what exactly? I'd rather do what we would have done under poch or before and give him a chance in our team before dismissing him as not good enough. Its not like there's an awful lot of decent competition at the moment. We should be giving our youth players a chance imo, particularly exciting players like sims who have looked decent in the small amount of time they have had on the pitch with us. If give him a go over elyounnousi for example who really hasn't done anything of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Good to see some postitivity amongst the fans. Full pressing game, im not sure you can get the players that fit during the season. Lets hope he can get us moving,he got Leipzig promoted he might need those skills again. If as I was told that MLTis going to be director offootball is true , then no doubt his dining out with Krueger may have born fruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 It hasn't actually happened yet so I'm not getting excited until it is confirmed. I'm with you on that, after all, its Saints and we know we can muck it up. Looking on Sky, he is 20/1 on, which is about as short as it gets (and yes, I know that this reacts to the market) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 I wonder if we'll see Boufal back...he'd work well in a Hasenhuttl team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Based on what exactly? I'd rather do what we would have done under poch or before and give him a chance in our team before dismissing him as not good enough. Its not like there's an awful lot of decent competition at the moment. We should be giving our youth players a chance imo, particularly exciting players like sims who have looked decent in the small amount of time they have had on the pitch with us. If give him a go over elyounnousi for example who really hasn't done anything of note. Based on having watched him play. There's also the fact that he can't make a poor Reading team. He's a good player, but not good enough for the premier league. You say we should give our youth players a chance. Have you actually seen our youth players play? If you have you'll know that outside Valery, Vokins, and possibly Slattery, that none of them are anywhere near good enough. One or two of the others such as Smallbone may improve enough but giving them a chance won't suddenly improve their ability. Anyways, back on subject, this Hasenhuttl fella looks decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Based on having watched him play. There's also the fact that he can't make a poor Reading team. He's a good player, but not good enough for the premier league. You say we should give our youth players a chance. Have you actually seen our youth players play? If you have you'll know that outside Valery, Vokins, and possibly Slattery, that none of them are anywhere near good enough. One or two of the others such as Smallbone may improve enough but giving them a chance won't suddenly improve their ability. Anyways, back on subject, this Hasenhuttl fella looks decent.What specifically do you think was lacking when you watched him play? I'm not interested in what he does at Reading, I'm interested in giving him a chance under a manager known to improve players and who is great with the youth. Do you think he would have been given a chance under poch? Of course he would have abd he would have been a better player for it. The bar is very low and as I said it really wouldn't take much at all for him to do better than mo. I'm not saying make him a starter but If we gave him an extended run in the squad and he was rubbish then fair enough but you don't know until you try and that's what our team used to be about. Under poch and beforehand he would have been in the squad and given a chance and since we lost that part of our identity now he is shipped out on loan. We gave young players a chance under poch and it did us no harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 What specifically do you think was lacking when you watched him play? I'm not interested in what he does at Reading, I'm interested in giving him a chance under a manager known to improve players and who is great with the youth. Do you think he would have been given a chance under poch? Of course he would have abd he would have been a better player for it. The bar is very low and as I said it really wouldn't take much at all for him to do better than mo. I'm not saying make him a starter but If we gave him an extended run in the squad and he was rubbish then fair enough but you don't know until you try and that's what our team used to be about. Under poch and beforehand he would have been in the squad and given a chance and since we lost that part of our identity now he is shipped out on loan. We gave young players a chance under poch and it did us no harm. Genuine question as the years all seem to blend together for me, but what young players did Pochettino bring through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Ross Wilson has just collected,and now accompanying, whoever the person is who does all the interviews for Saints’ media team in his car. Make of that what you will. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 What specifically do you think was lacking when you watched him play? I'm not interested in what he does at Reading, I'm interested in giving him a chance under a manager known to improve players and who is great with the youth. Do you think he would have been given a chance under poch? Of course he would have abd he would have been a better player for it. The bar is very low and as I said it really wouldn't take much at all for him to do better than mo. I'm not saying make him a starter but If we gave him an extended run in the squad and he was rubbish then fair enough but you don't know until you try and that's what our team used to be about. Under poch and beforehand he would have been in the squad and given a chance and since we lost that part of our identity now he is shipped out on loan. We gave young players a chance under poch and it did us no harm. Surely that is the whole point of the loan, to see how he does whilst on loan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Apparently signed up until the end of 2020/21 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Our fans: "I've had enough of these foreign Carlos kickaball managers". Club - signs Englishman Our fans: "What we really need is one of these foreign Carlos kickaball style managers". Good luck Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Glad to see the pressure I've been putting on Gao pay off. #makeadifference #benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Our fans: "I've had enough of these foreign Carlos kickaball managers". Club - signs Englishman Our fans: "What we really need is one of these foreign Carlos kickaball style managers". Good luck Ralph erm....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Just signed 3 year deal according to Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11571339/ralph-hasenhuttl-agrees-three-year-southampton-contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Well SkyBet seem to have closed the book now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 He'll do. Right, let's get on the roller coaster again. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Another onto the compensation pay off gravy train, bring it on SFC! I would so love to be proved cynical and wrong, and get 2.5 seasons out of this guy with continuity and stability, I crave it. If he is any good and succeeds here then he will get poached eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Surely that is the whole point of the loan, to see how he does whilst on loan!I don't agree with farming our youngsters out on loan when imo they coukd be in our squad and being used. It's a recent change of policy that means that promising youngsters like sims are on loan to poor championship teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Another onto the compensation pay off gravy train, bring it on SFC! I would so love to be proved cynical and wrong, and get 2.5 seasons out of this guy with continuity and stability, I crave it. If he is any good and succeeds here then he will get poached eventually. Yep. Which is annoying, however I would be happy if we forged a reputation as the place upcoming, progressive and 'proven overseas' managers (and players) come to get a foothold in the EPL, before moving on to a big 4/5 club job. Better than the being on the old-school managers roundabout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashnats Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 This will be the making of JWP, mark my words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?60288-Hughes-OUT&p=2685619#post2685619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Another onto the compensation pay off gravy train, bring it on SFC! I would so love to be proved cynical and wrong, and get 2.5 seasons out of this guy with continuity and stability, I crave it. If he is any good and succeeds here then he will get poached eventually. Yeah then everyone will whinge because "there's no loyalty in football". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?60288-Hughes-OUT&p=2685619#post2685619 There's no telling which Ralph you meant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Another onto the compensation pay off gravy train, bring it on SFC! I would so love to be proved cynical and wrong, and get 2.5 seasons out of this guy with continuity and stability, I crave it. If he is any good and succeeds here then he will get poached eventually.That's hardly something to be sad about when the alternative is appointing someone terrible that we can't shift without sacking and paying a chunk of compensation to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 December, 2018 Author Share Posted 4 December, 2018 This will be the making of JWP, mark my words... He's probably thought that for the last 7 appointments. (I hope you're right, by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Our fans: "I've had enough of these foreign Carlos kickaball managers". Club - signs Englishman Our fans: "What we really need is one of these foreign Carlos kickaball style managers". Good luck Ralph Aside from us not having an English manager since Adkins, that is a very odd way to categorise managers. Not "prefers attacking/defensive" play, or likes to work on fitness, progressive coaching methods, squad rotation, etc, but deciding the main factor is ethnicity? I actually don't think that's the main way "our fans" categorise managers at all, but if that's the main differentiation between Puel and Hughes in your mind, it says more about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Aside from us not having an English manager since Adkins, that is a very odd way to categorise managers. Not "prefers attacking/defensive" play, or likes to work on fitness, progressive coaching methods, squad rotation, etc, but deciding the main factor is ethnicity? I actually don't think that's the main way "our fans" categorise managers at all, but if that's the main differentiation between Puel and Hughes in your mind, it says more about you. You know, I was considering stating that it was a joke but then I figured adding that an obviously joking post is a joke is a bit redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Genuine question as the years all seem to blend together for me, but what young players did Pochettino bring through?From memory James ward prowse when he was actually a youngster Calum Chambers Luke. Shaw Harrison Reed Sam Gallagher Now admittedly some of them are better than sims but the point is he was prepared to have these youth players in the squad and played them. Under the current philosophy many of them would be out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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