Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I think the key factor of this new guy joining was not meeting Les Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 It’s funny all this continual criticism of Reed. I distinctly remember him getting flack in the summer because he allegedly wanted to look at other candidates and not appoint Hughes full time. Now he’s getting flack for the compensation paid to a manager he didn’t want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 It’s funny all this continual criticism of Reed. I distinctly remember him getting flack in the summer because he allegedly wanted to look at other candidates and not appoint Hughes full time. Now he’s getting flack for the compensation paid to a manager he didn’t want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 It’s funny all this continual criticism of Reed. I distinctly remember him getting flack in the summer because he allegedly wanted to look at other candidates and not appoint Hughes full time. Now he’s getting flack for the compensation paid to a manager he didn’t want! Only other candidate he looked at was himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Considering the amount we have to pay when we sack them, this is kind of understandable. What is the payment when we sack them? I read in one paper that it was £6m for Hughes, but I highly highly doubt that, as that will be the amount he might have earned over the length of his entire contract (presumption). There will be clauses in contracts that mitigate payments and are no doubt attached to performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Reeds approach of hiring v.average out of work managers saves on the initial compensation, but works out way more expensive long-term. We must have paid out c£15-20m to sacked managers and support staff since Koeman left. I think hiring out of work managers can work, you just need to convince one of the top 2-3 on the list to join us, not someone on page 4 and 5 of the list. The problem with managers on the 1st page of the list is they probably didn't take kindly to Leslie sending them his coaching manual. Thats probably spot on. Starting to read that some fans think he will be off if he turns us around into a top 10 club. Too right and that means the club will continue moving in the right direction if the next appointment is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I don't think anyone here knows how pay outs to sacked managers works. The severance package is likely to be very different to their normal wage, and also dependent on being out of work. Puel & Pellegrino being employed so soon will have mitigated our payments. Hughes, well, he might be something different as not sure whether he will find a job again so easily. But why not offset the payments we received from Everton and Spurs and put those towards the severance packages of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Thats probably spot on. Starting to read that some fans think he will be off if he turns us around into a top 10 club. Too right and that means the club will continue moving in the right direction if the next appointment is right. Indeed, it will be great if he is coveted by the top sides. Providing he joins in the first place of course...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Thats probably spot on. Starting to read that some fans think he will be off if he turns us around into a top 10 club. Too right and that means the club will continue moving in the right direction if the next appointment is right. Yep that's the ticket. Find a decent manager and make a tidy profit if/when he leaves. Rather than spending out 15-20m on **** managers Our transfer budget is seemingly tight so we simply can't just keep paying out managers (& support staff) ever 9-12 months. False economy and the legacy of Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I think we were focused on Emery post Koeman, and Tuchel post Puel, to no avail (and slightly unrealistically too). 'slightly' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Did anyone on here mention Hasenhuttl as a prospective manager before he was linked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Did anyone on here mention Hasenhuttl as a prospective manager before he was linked? Think I was the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Textbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Think I was the first. How much you win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Textbook Cashed out on you posting textbook, layed that on MLG correcting someone and Dalek mentioning being castigated. Made a tidy 500k on a 27p bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I mentioned it when I was Kenyan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Cashed out on you posting textbook, layed that on MLG correcting someone and Dalek mentioning being castigated. Made a tidy 500k on a 27p bet. With those events, you're lucky even to get your stake back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I went to Austrian finishing school with him. Always knew he would be a decent manager but club never replied to my emails advising them to take a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Confirmed on official site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Yep. It’s official! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 How strange, we made this appointment before hiring a replacement for Les Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 How strange, we made this appointment before hiring a replacement for Les Reed Not strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 How strange, we made this appointment before hiring a replacement for Les Reed Maybe the incoming person is taking longer but informed club of who their man is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 kerching. good appointment on the face of it. hope we have the players for his system(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Boooom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Considering the amount we have to pay when we sack them, this is kind of understandable. How much do we have to pay?? Genuine question. There seems to be a perceived wisdom that we have to pay up the remaining term of their contract, whereas I doubt that is ever the case. Reason one is both Puel and MoP found jobs quite quickly. Second reason is none of us know what compensation is written in to the contract - it might me a set amount or one year's money. Happy to corrected by thosewho know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadge Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I am for once really impressed how quickly we have got this done. I am also looking forward to the high tempo high pressing style, love watching teams that do this. Bet the players are either really excited on ****ting one about the fitness.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 How much do we have to pay?? Genuine question. There seems to be a perceived wisdom that we have to pay up the remaining term of their contract, whereas I doubt that is ever the case. Reason one is both Puel and MoP found jobs quite quickly. Second reason is none of us know what compensation is written in to the contract - it might me a set amount or one year's money. Happy to corrected by thosewho know better. would say you are about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Good move. Assume he will be adding his own coach at a later stage, otherwise thats a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sainttomski1 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Happy days! [emoji3] Sent from my SM-G901F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 How strange, we made this appointment before hiring a replacement for Les Reed But not strange at all that you told us yesterday that it had fallen through? As Cabbage would say......mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 (edited) I'm feeling cautious optimism about this. Hopefully he's a Poccettino Mk2 rather than A Pellegrino Mk2. Now we need the right DoF to work with him. Think getting Mitchell back would be brilliant but will not be straightforward. He's currently in a job. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Edited 5 December, 2018 by Shroppie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 "As soon as we met, Ralph's enthusiasm for football was contagious," said Southampton chairman Ralph Krueger. "His hunger to take on a new and challenging job in the Premier League was evident. In our discussions, he quickly aligned himself with the values and the vision of the club." He is Hungry...now we need players with the same hunger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 But not strange at all that you told us yesterday that it had fallen through? As Cabbage would say......mess Of course, I was being serious then (and now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Great news though he does seem a bit light on coaches. Is he going to struggle to make an impact quickly with just him, Kelv, Watson and the fitness guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Good move. Assume he will be adding his own coach at a later stage, otherwise thats a bit odd. I think you're raising the same point as I was going to raise? But to be sure ... the official statement on the OS makes no mention of the fella mentioned elsewhere (name escapes me right now) who would be the Asst Mgr. Just "will be supported by Kel Davis et al.." This guy was just 29 and a defender. Would be good to get confirmation he IS coming too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Good move. Assume he will be adding his own coach at a later stage, otherwise thats a bit odd. Adam Blackmore has just said he will bring in his own staff shortly {only one though} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I best retire the #mess for awhile. Can only seeing it being a #win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Adam Blackmore has just said he will bring in his own staff shortly {only one though} I guess how many do you need? Assistant ?? Coach Kelvin Davis Gk Coach Dave Watson Sports Science Alex Gross Davis and Watson aren't linked to the manager, hence why they weren't sacked with Hughes, so expect one to come in to assist RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 "As soon as we met, Ralph's enthusiasm for football was contagious," said Southampton chairman Ralph Krueger. "His hunger to take on a new and challenging job in the Premier League was evident. In our discussions, he quickly aligned himself with the values and the vision of the club." He is Hungry...now we need players with the same hunger. Austin probably has the most hunger out of all the squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I guess how many do you need? Assistant ?? Coach Kelvin Davis Gk Coach Dave Watson Sports Science Alex Gross Davis and Watson aren't linked to the manager, hence why they weren't sacked with Hughes, so expect one to come in to assist RH also a bit different from what we've had in the past as this guy is a training pitch coach/manager rather than let the coaches get on with it like hughes and puel etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 How strange, we made this appointment before hiring a replacement for Les Reed I expect they have been in talks for a while and he didn't want Charlton Athletic's sh!ttest-ever manager telling him who to buy. Great news - looks a good fit on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 But not strange at all that you told us yesterday that it had fallen through? As Cabbage would say......mess I'm surprised you've got the nerve to show yourself back on this forum after being proven to be an utter fraud on the Ched Evans thread! #mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 No photograph of RaHa holding the shirt or flag? #shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Assistant - Danny Rohl ? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/04/ralph-hasenhuettl-will-announced-new-southampton-manager-ahead/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Great news! Good to see the club acting in a decisive and positive fashion. I was supportive of Hughes getting a contract in the summer but this turned out to be a mistake. From what I’ve read about Hasenhüttl I’m very hopeful that he is just the man to get us back on track. The future seems a lot brighter all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Kelvin Davis staying then. I suppose you can't have everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 So how's it pronounced? hayzen-hootle? haazen-hootle? hassen-hootle? #2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Kelvin Davis staying then. I suppose you can't have everything Is he the new Eric Black type scapegoat if this goes tits up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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