trousers Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17217775.southampton-defender-ryan-bertrand-facing-suspension/ At last (IMO), a chance to see how we shape up without Bertrand in the starting 11 (and not as captain either) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Big game, lose this and it's time for somebody to pull the trigger. No idea how we'll do, I brick it when we play anybody in the Premiere league these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Gonna get spanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Big game, lose this and it's time for somebody to pull the trigger. No idea how we'll do, I brick it when we play anybody in the Premiere league these days. agreed, though not sure how fair it'll be for anyone when their opening 2 games would be United at home and Spurs away if Hughes was to go. something has to give though, it is a must win for both sides. the team I would play personally: McCarthy Cedric Yoshida Hoedt Targett PEH Lemina Redmond Armstrong Gabbiadini Ings Obafemi and Elyounoussi to be our subs at some point too. we generally do well at Craven Cottage, and it is always a really really good away day, but the way we are playing and the general momentum means I'm going to predict a feisty 2-2 affair. Schurrle opens the scoring for them, we reply back with Armstrong and Gabbiadini and take the lead, before Mitrovic towers over Cedric at the far post late in the game to grab an equaliser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Gonna be a little ironic if Targett gets to start against Fulham. Hope he does, Bertrand has been one of our worst performers this year, thankfully his love of yellow cards has forced Hughes to do something. Imagine Austin will also be suspended by then. Hopefully Ings will be OK, otherwise we will be left with Gabbi and O'Bafemi. Marcus Barnes on standby? Be nice to drop Hoedt and bring Stephens back but can see Hughes persisting with Calamity Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 We will win, they're under just as much pressure as we are. Away from home, we'll get the three points. BELIEVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY Saint Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Gonna be a little ironic if Targett gets to start against Fulham. Hope he does, Bertrand has been one of our worst performers this year, thankfully his love of yellow cards has forced Hughes to do something. Imagine Austin will also be suspended by then. Hopefully Ings will be OK, otherwise we will be left with Gabbi and O'Bafemi. Marcus Barnes on standby? Be nice to drop Hoedt and bring Stephens back but can see Hughes persisting with Calamity Wes. Spot on Vectis, pretty much what's on my mind this morning. Matt always plays with exuberance, (where is Josh Simms?), and that change in passion and drive might be a positive, infectious energy the first team needs. Hoedt has had his chances and now reminds me of Squarehead Jos Hooveld everytime he's on the pitch. Mistakes, own goals and wreckless decision making. Yoshida deserves to start ahead of him - never thought I'd be the one to write that, shows how poor our replacement options are. Gabbi needs match fitness. By the way, when not playing, where do our first team players gain match fitness, as they don't appear in the U23s? Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Winless in our last 7 games against newly promoted sides. Can't see us breaking that streak anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 We'll win, we're away, they're worse than us. It'll be a great day out, as Fulham always is...looking forward to it. McCarthy Cedric Yoshida Hoedt Targett Hojbjerg Lemina Gabbiadini Armstrong Redmond Ings (Hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 The battle of the ****est defences in the PL. I would say it will be a goalfest but our strikers will insure that doesn't happen. Should be good for some hilarious MoTD punditry on defending from Martin Keown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Try and defend the goal , come away with a point from a 0-0 draw. I'd pick to start McCarthy, Fortser Cedric, Maya, Jack, Jannik, Ryan , Targett Romeu, Lemina, Davis Redmond, PEH, JWP, Armstrong, Ely Ings, Gabbi, Charlie, Gunn. No room for Wes or Long, And I prefer Gunn up front to Long anyway. Hopefully we have same ref as Saturday so he will miss our 2, 6 , 3, 5 ,4 formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 This one will fall into the miss a few sitters and draw 0-0 category. Then we get spankings from Utd and Spurs. Then a 1-0 lead ****ed away in last second 1-1 draw with Cardiff and then a good old spanking from Arsenal and then a 0-0 with sitters missed vs Huddy... ...rinse and repeat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Hard to think about us ever winning again at this point. Probably another frustrating draw, will assume that we concede late on. If we don't win that should be Hughes last roll of the dice. Should be gone already and use these two weeks to be searching for his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 You'd expect that the loser will end up getting sacked. Can't see it being 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Fully expect us to win this one. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Will probably limp to a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 I think we will be 3 -o up in the 88th minute then let in 4 in the last two minutes and extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Winless in our last 7 games against newly promoted sides. Can't see us breaking that streak anytime soon. Is that right? Absolutely shocking if so. And unforgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Would go with Richardson as a front sweeper for this one, Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Is that right? Absolutely shocking if so. And unforgivable. yes- did not beat a single one of them last season, and we lost to Wolves earlier this season. Yet to play Cardiff and Fulham are next of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17217775.southampton-defender-ryan-bertrand-facing-suspension/ At last (IMO), a chance to see how we shape up without Bertrand in the starting 11 (and not as captain either) Let's see how PEH leads the team. Bertrand's suspension could be a blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 A few on here including Ings but I can’t imagine he will recover from a hamstring strain in two weeks. We have loads of games coming up in December it would be madness to risk a rupture. Suggest: Alex Cedric, Yoshi, Hoedt, Targett PEH, Romeu, Lamina Gabbi, Austin, Redmond 4-3-3 in possession, 4-5-1 out of possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 We normally play ****e after encouraging performances so fully expecting us to get beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Let's see how PEH leads the team. Bertrand's suspension could be a blessing. If Yoshi's playing I'd rather it was him as captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harriesss Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Gonna be a little ironic if Targett gets to start against Fulham. Hope he does, Bertrand has been one of our worst performers this year, thankfully his love of yellow cards has forced Hughes to do something. Imagine Austin will also be suspended by then. Hopefully Ings will be OK, otherwise we will be left with Gabbi and O'Bafemi. Marcus Barnes on standby? Be nice to drop Hoedt and bring Stephens back but can see Hughes persisting with Calamity Wes. If all of Ings and Long are injured and Austin suspended then Barnes can’t be involved as he wasn’t named in the prem squad and is over 21 now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 I'd stick Moi in for Ings and push Gabbi up front. Other than that, just Targett to come in at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 (edited) A few on here including Ings but I can’t imagine he will recover from a hamstring strain in two weeks. We have loads of games coming up in December it would be madness to risk a rupture. Suggest: Alex Cedric, Yoshi, Hoedt, Targett PEH, Romeu, Lamina Gabbi, Austin, Redmond 4-3-3 in possession, 4-5-1 out of possession Ings for Austin if fit, otherwise Obafemi. Armstrong for Romeu. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Edited 12 November, 2018 by Shroppie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Must win. Won't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 We are away so have a better chance of a win than if we were at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 If all of Ings and Long are injured and Austin suspended then Barnes can’t be involved as he wasn’t named in the prem squad and is over 21 now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Good point, forgot about that. Makes you wonder what the point was of keeping him in house, should have been loaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 November, 2018 Share Posted 12 November, 2018 Good point, forgot about that. Makes you wonder what the point was of keeping him in house, should have been loaned out. Is that true? Hes 21 at the moment, not 100% how the bandings work.... Austin isn't suspended either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Who is away on the waste of space International break? Hopefully Ings, Gabbi and Austin are hungry for this one. It's the old moveable object v resistable force conundrum. Disappointing draw I reckon. Getting accustomed to disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 A perfect time for Sessegnon to properly introduce himself to the Premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 The winner of this game will be obviously be very pleased in the short term. But the loser will surely sack their manager, and head straight for big Sam. Who will undoubtedly save them from the drop. I cant really see him at our club, so it'll be Fulham that get him. So we'll have to win to make that possible. Logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Should we just swap managers, some we calling the Fulham man as brilliant before the season started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Everyone assuming Targett for Bert but this is Hughes remember, expect something completely odd.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 The winner of this game will be obviously be very pleased in the short term. But the loser will surely sack their manager, and head straight for big Sam. Who will undoubtedly save them from the drop. I cant really see him at our club, so it'll be Fulham that get him. So we'll have to win to make that possible. Logic. Well we have been following the we're a south coast sunderland approach, so getting a depressing awful expensive big sam spell would fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harriesss Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Is that true? Hes 21 at the moment, not 100% how the bandings work.... Austin isn't suspended either? Yes he wasn’t listed on the ‘B’ U21 list either, think for U21 you have to be born on or after 1 January 1997 for this season. The Austin suspension was more because of his interview outburst, so he may well not get suspended, and Ings could be back anyway as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Yes he wasn’t listed on the ‘B’ U21 list either, think for U21 you have to be born on or after 1 January 1997 for this season. The Austin suspension was more because of his interview outburst, so he may well not get suspended, and Ings could be back anyway as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ah, no chance Austin will be banned for that interview...!! Was trying to find the official list of players eligible, but couldnt find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 They will win. We will say he's got to go now, surely? He won't. It will then all start again. Fed up with it. Would rather play horrible football and accumulate points a la Allardyce for a bit as it's too disheartening just waiting for our defence to crumble and our paper thin confidence to shatter from just about any decision made by the ref. Also disheartening looking at a bunch of players without leaders or desire. And a manager who neither does anything on the training ground or during matches to change things. We deserve to go down if we don't change any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Expect a draw for this one and bizarrely a draw against United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 They will win. We will say he's got to go now, surely? He won't. It will then all start again. Fed up with it. Would rather play horrible football and accumulate points a la Allardyce for a bit as it's too disheartening just waiting for our defence to crumble and our paper thin confidence to shatter from just about any decision made by the ref. Also disheartening looking at a bunch of players without leaders or desire. And a manager who neither does anything on the training ground or during matches to change things. We deserve to go down if we don't change any of that. I don't believe the players play without desire. I thought they played with determination and great effort on Saturday. The problem is a complete loss of self confidence and that is something the last two managers have failed to inspire. I still believe a good manager who wins the players respect could make something good out of this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Spot on Vectis, pretty much what's on my mind this morning. Matt always plays with exuberance, (where is Josh Simms?), and that change in passion and drive might be a positive, infectious energy the first team needs. Hoedt has had his chances and now reminds me of Squarehead Jos Hooveld everytime he's on the pitch. Mistakes, own goals and wreckless decision making. Yoshida deserves to start ahead of him - never thought I'd be the one to write that, shows how poor our replacement options are. Gabbi needs match fitness. By the way, when not playing, where do our first team players gain match fitness, as they don't appear in the U23s? Am I missing something? Went on loan to Reading. Blowing Hot and Cold and can't even get in the squad for their home match against bottom of the league. With any sense we'll recall him in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 3 nil saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 I don't believe the players play without desire. I thought they played with determination and great effort on Saturday. The problem is a complete loss of self confidence and that is something the last two managers have failed to inspire. I still believe a good manager who wins the players respect could make something good out of this squad. The players' poor passing and decision making at critical moments, ie who to pass to (as often analysed in MOTD) are both symptoms of decreasing confidence as a result of indifferent management and training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 The players' poor passing and decision making at critical moments, ie who to pass to (as often analysed in MOTD) are both symptoms of decreasing confidence as a result of indifferent management and training. Agree with you about lack of confidence and decision making - some of that can be put down to the coaches and manager, but I think a lot is about players taking responsibility for their own actions on the pitch in those critical moments of the match. So many matches are won and lost based on what happens in the last 15 minutes. We don't have enough leaders on the pitch who can keep us playing calmly and producing our best football in that critical period, and too many who go into headless chicken mode and stop picking their passes and being brave in possession. When you are in front with 15 mins to go, there should be opportunities to pick off the opposition who are coming on to you, but you need to have players who are calm and brave enough to get their heads up and use the spaces that are opening up at that stage of the game. And you need players with the mentality at the other end of the pitch to step up and take the chances to kill the game. We just don't seem to have players with those qualities right now, and that's not all down to the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Should we just swap managers, some we calling the Fulham man as brilliant before the season started... He's not a bad manager but I think it's pretty obvious that he wouldn't be an improvement on Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 Went on loan to Reading. Blowing Hot and Cold and can't even get in the squad for their home match against bottom of the league. With any sense we'll recall him in Jan. So he can not get into our squad either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 0-0 and Hughes will stay on another week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 November, 2018 Share Posted 13 November, 2018 We will get battered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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