K,Billy's supersound Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 His pal Martin Hunter gone too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 DOF ....Strachan ???? the rumours as manager came from backfield , but still has house in warsash ........get those players out on the new forest run in there shorts before training , haha how would the prima donas like that ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Hughes is toast. Unlikely IMO if recruitment has been identified as the #1 issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Unlikely IMO if recruitment has been identified as the #1 issue. By definition, the manager is not good enough then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.bangkok Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Should we dare to dream that Koeman being at the Etihad was anything to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 His pal Martin Hunter gone too Any snippets on the likelihood of Hughes going/staying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry12 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I have been moaning for over 2 years on TUI about getting rid of that pointless rubbish big edd. Now it's happened, I can look forward to something interesting happening, like Hughes not being told to play pointless footballer, teachers pet, Prowsey. My opinion, Ross Wilson has not been allowed to do his job, but now he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I vote for Davros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I vote for Davros. Not Hoddle as DOF then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I have been moaning for over 2 years on TUI about getting rid of that pointless rubbish big edd. Now it's happened, I can look forward to something interesting happening, like Hughes not being told to play pointless footballer, teachers pet, Prowsey. My opinion, Ross Wilson has not been allowed to do his job, but now he can. Fair play to your persistence pal - TUI has been the inner sanctum for the leslieites over the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Moderators - can we have a poll, see who agrees and disagrees with the decision? It’s going to be one-sided to the extreme. A united fan base for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Not Hoddle as DOF then I think Hoddle has to concentrate on his health and I hope the best for him. It will be interesting to see who becomes DOF etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Rumours are Wilson has gone as well... The DE saying he hasn’t but maybe they’re not up-to-speed on developments? Blackmore also saying no further departures expected....today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 It’s going to be one-sided to the extreme. A united fan base for once. Nobody has voted for 'no' as yet, and only 3 undecided. Pretty much unanimous really, as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Doesn't seem likely given the club statement The search for the right replacement, along with a thorough review into the club’s football operations, has begun. or the fact this has come right of the blue without any ITK leaks would suggest this wasn't planned to me. Given our recent track record no doubt we will replace Les and Ross just after the Jan transfer window..... It's precisely what it does suggest, that the search has 'begun'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Koeman - 'yes, I'll come back, but only if that tit Reed isn't there' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Good news. Should have happened in the summer but hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Could be a few months of serious turmoil ahead as we try to adapt and combat the issues that are going to arise from this, like what do we do with the Gabbi song now?!?!? It's still relevant because he was bought under Les' reign, but are we allowed to still sing his name? Maybe there could be a poll on this too!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 My opinion, Ross Wilson has not been allowed to do his job, but now he can. Seems unlikely that LR was running a private scouting operation through Europe while steadfastly ignoring the minor-league gems being served by by Wilson. Far more likely is that the job was too big for RW, so he tried to shortcut by scouting the fringes of bigger clubs like Bayern, Juventus and Lazio for prospects. That way, at least he could say that someone else with clout had already passed a positive judgment on the players he was suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Be interesting to see if Hughes manages the team any differently going forward. Good news anyway. Sent from my SM-A320FL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 perfect time to get Mike Bassett in! he'd be good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Martin Hunter also gone. https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17210305.technical-director-martin-hunter-has-left-southampton/?f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 One thing that Saints are consistent with - big announcements always come when we least expect them! Hopefully the start of another new beginning for The Southampton Way, or even a New Way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Someone needs to be held to account for the decline in the club over the last 2.5 seasons and the 3 managerial appointments which haven't worked out. As well as the £20m signing of a player who was quickly deemed not good enough and shipped out on loan. And another new CB and AM who can't even get in the starting team. If it was Les that made those decisions, yes he had to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickendippers Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Black Box OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Someone needs to be held to account for the decline in the club over the last 2.5 seasons and the 3 managerial appointments which haven't worked out. As well as the £20m signing of a player who was quickly deemed not good enough and shipped out on loan. And another new CB and AM who can't even get in the starting team. If it was Les that made those decisions, yes he had to go. And the decline of the academy, and the contract extension for Forster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Watch him pop up at the FA now Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 At first I thought it was a wind up but when I saw the Club statement I accepted their decision as genuine. However (isn't there always an however) Hughes won't be sacked win or lose on Saturday. GAO is not going to fork out millions in compensation any more than Sparky will resign. Reed going won't change much until Ralphy baby slings his hook too. Some suggestions for Reeds replacement are questionable because the very same Board Members who kept Les here so long after his sell by date haven't changed. Perhaps we have set our hopes too high again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Nearly £40m wasted on, Carillo & Boufal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 At long last, thanks for the initial years Les but after the last 2-3 seasons you just had to go. Maybe Gao does have some balls after all. Sparky's position is looking very tenuous now, not completely his fault TBH but when these things happen they tend to clear everything out. Time to get some energy and ambition back into proceedings - what's Cortese's number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 This arrived through the door at the same time as the announcement. Great news. NOW, we march on..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Nearly £40m wasted on, Carillo & Boufal!! I don't think you should stop there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Should have gone a long time ago. I wonder what if/any impact it will have on the academy and that rumoured thing about youngsters being forced to sign with his sons agency. Bet the players are gutted he won't be going into the dressing room at half time anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 1/3rd of the steps needed. Ross Wilson and Mark Hughes replaced after we appoint Les's successor, please. Is there any chance of this happening BEFORE the any Les successor is named though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Fantastic news!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I get the impression this was Kruger's decision. Would like to see Hughes given the boot too, might make it a little more appealing to a potential DoF if they have the chance to appoint their own man from day 1 and don't have to put up with Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Great news. Obviously easy to look back etc but it makes you think why he didn't just give Koeman the contract/backing he wanted. We must have wasted well over £100m since then on players and paying managers off. For me that sums Reed up. Believed his own hype. Personally I think it is one step in the right direction but Ralph and the rest of the failed muppets need to go too. As others have mentioned I think Hughes must know now he is on even thinner ice than he was before. They should just fire the bullet and get it over with now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sensible Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I didn't expect that, but this has given me a bit of renewed belief that there are people who can see what's going on beyond Reed and co. Without question he did contribute here and for elements of what he did we will always have to be thankful, but over the last couple of years his increased power and involvement has made him look increasingly out of his depth. For me, Reed and Wilson are the two main characters culpable for the disastrous transfer windows over the last couple of years - so whilst this is progress, we need to also see the back of Wilson as well. Reed delivered well for his paymasters over the course of time...Hughes is irrelevant...The whole Southampton Way mantra/ethos will now be under scrutiny and liable to change. Owners were probably expecting a myriad of Talent coming through the Academy when it looks like the Academy is completely devoid of anything likely to come through? Academy performance and Managerial selection his downfall...will likely replace Emenalo at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I get the impression this was Kruger's decision. Would like to see Hughes given the boot too, might make it a little more appealing to a potential DoF if they have the chance to appoint their own man from day 1 and don't have to put up with Hughes. No chance - Krueger is just a figurehead; this was decision by Gao or one of his advisors. He owns the club and it is his money at stake. Any decision like this would have been made by him I suspect Hughes will get a bit longer now as well though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 The right decision and not before time Wonder if the Les replacement has already been identified on the black box �� I consulted the black box last night,but no mention of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 5-6 horrendous transfers windows is only going to end one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I voted "undecided". The Koeman years were the best that we have had. I still think that he, like the rest of the club, had one hand tied behind his back due to the owners' wishes. But Pellegrino - WTF was that appointment? One that has taken us hugely backwards and we haven't recovered from. Not least as he spunked £20m away on Carillo, when instead he should have sacked the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Decent piece by Adam Leitch: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17210187.adam-leitch-on-the-departure-of-southampton-vice-chairman-les-reed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Potentially big news depending upon what other decisions the club make, but... I was under the impression from his lower profile lately, that Reed was on gardening leave anyway. I’m not sure how meaningful this will be if Ross Wilson remains as is his successor. How responsible is Wilson for some of the club’s more recent debatable decisions? Watch this space, I suppose. Where does this leave Hughes? Anyway Reed deserved the boot for the Pellegrino fiasco alone. Best of luck to him and all that, but I’m not sad to see him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handyman Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Could we have a vote on bringing back Nicola Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Could we have a vote on bringing back Nicola Cortese? Why? Les Reed was DOF, Cortese was the CEO Martin Hunter was a technical director (largely in charge of the academy), Cortese was the CEO Aside from the facts of the damage he did he's not coming back to replace either one of those two people who's job he couldn't do (and both of whom he hired). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Seems it all went to **** when Cortese left and reed got my free reign, He managed to annoy Koeman also. Reed is a plum Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 No chance - Krueger is just a figurehead; this was decision by Gao or one of his advisors. He owns the club and it is his money at stake. Any decision like this would have been made by him Nah, I reckon Nelly and Kat decided it at a coffee morning, or at a Costa after a shopping spree together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Thing is, there's nobody on the board who know anything about football (other than Wilson) & even that is certainly questionable! Pretty sure I read somewhere not that long ago that about Wilson. That he basically tripped and fell into football whilst en route into another field of life entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Could be very likely that Wilson et al could all be going. If they get someone in to shake up the football side, which Reed was basically head of, then that person could basically clear out most of the people down, or at least the key ones like Reed, Hughes, Hale etc. to achieve this new direction and review, they might want to bring in their own people and have a fresh start. It's pretty clear that first team management/coaching/fitness has been poor recently and over the last two seasons (you only have to look at how less sharp Ings is now, compared to coming off the back of a Liverpool pre-season, plus our consistent ability to give away late goals which is a fitness/concentration issue). Then the academy, at least on the face of it seems pretty poor, not many players coming through, not great performance of the U18 and U23 teams for a while. And of course the scouting team has struggled to find any gems and doesn't seem to have recruited the right players. (though management and use of these players might also have contributed). I am genuinely shocked at this to be honest, didn't think the club had this in them any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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