Lighthouse Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 https://southamptonfc.com/news/2018-11-08/southampton-football-club-statement-les-reed-november-2018 Discussion and potential replacements here please. About time IMO, things have long been not right with the playing and coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I wonder if we could prise Cortese away from AC Milan and bring him back 'home'...? © CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Sadly...in some ways...about time. Remember his positive contributions...and look ahead. We march on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Thank fook for that!! A little bit of wee just came out when I saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 At last some positive news from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I wonder if we could prise Cortese away from AC Milan and bring him back 'home'...? © CB Fry Didnt even know Cortese was at AC Milan! Bring him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Amazing news - Gao obviously does care a bit. Now, to get someone competent in, and to appoint a new Manager and coaching team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Well thank the lord for that. Slightly bizarre that they didn't do it in the summer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 The King is dead ! Long live the King ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 A review of the football operations should have taken place at the end of last season. The fact we had to wait until we started this season terribly as well is worrying since it was blindingly obvious that change was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Amazing news - Gao obviously does care a bit. Now, to get someone competent in, and to appoint a new Manager and coaching team. You surprise me That being said, I think there is an argument to make wholesale changes in one go in a bid to change the mentality and feeling at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I wonder if this is clearing the decks for a Hughes replacement .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 About time, we are desperate for a new direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I reckon Hughes is on his way too and that Reed admits he keeps making the wrong decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 You surprise me That being said, I think there is an argument to make wholesale changes in one go in a bid to change the mentality and feeling at the club. I would have thought a new Diretor of Football Operations would want his own Manager and coaching team in - he won't want to be judged on his predecessors mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 more than anything it was his arrogance over not accepting what was going on around him. Fans forum aside, we have heard nothing in the last couple of years and yet before that he was fairly regularly talking himself up to the press and how great he was running the club. Cannot imagine for one moment Cortese coming back, especially as KL still has a stake, so that is not going to happen and the club is a different model now (unfortunately) and there is no way Cortese is going to work under those financial constrictions. What price for Paul Muitchell as our new DoF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Thank god. I mean that for where the club is right now. There is no denying Reed did a good job in getting the club in a good place, no question around that, but his managerial appointments and player recruitment (which he overseas in his org) have been atrocious in the last 2 seasons. This should have happened in the summer as now we're stuck with players that aren't ever going to set the world alight and a manager who is turning out to be yet another bad hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I reckon Hughes is on his way too and that Reed admits he keeps making the wrong decisions. I think its the opposite actually. I think the club have realised that after three managers it is perhaps the players that are not good enough. So who did not get a replacement for VVD? Who sanctioned the Carillo deal? Who bought in the likes of Anonomousi and Vestergaard and Armstrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 my informed mate thinks he's actually been on gardening leave for the last six months, since the end of last season. Not sure if that is right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Wow. Wasnt expecting that, but glad there's some positive action taking place. Surely spells the end for Hughes too as no doubt a new person would want their own manager. Probably wont change too much short term, but will be great to have someone signing good players and not rewarding average ones with bumper contracts, and having a manager who plays their best team and invests time into the youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 my informed mate thinks he's actually been on gardening leave for the last six months, since the end of last season. Not sure if that is right? Doubt if you'd notice the difference anyway. A total non-entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I've just told one of my football crowd and she said she thought something was going on. She can see the stadium from her house across the water and the office lights have been on very late all week. Her tongue in cheek question though: "will it help us put the ball in the back of the net?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 But how did we identify said targets? Questions must be asked of our scouting setup.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I think Red’s passionate letter to Goa might just have done the trick. Goa loves passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 It's a start. Still a few more need to go before I'll get too excited. I'm with Noodles as well.. if Paul Mitchell is available and wants to come, get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 No doubt our black box has been scouring the finest DoF in world football for the last 2 years and will make an informed decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 It's a start. Still a few more need to go before I'll get too excited. I'm with Noodles as well.. if Paul Mitchell is available and wants to come, get it done!Why are people so unimaginative like this? It's incredibly likely that we will appoint someone from within football that is nothing to do with the club. Its not very likely that we will go looking for people that used to work here, particularly if they are doing well elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 It's a start. Still a few more need to go before I'll get too excited. I'm with Noodles as well.. if Paul Mitchell is available and wants to come, get it done! Mitchell is DOF at RB Lepzig and been linked with the DOF job at United. No way he’ll come to us. The only way I could see that we could tempt him would be to give him Les’ title (Vice chairman) and give him a huge payrise. Unlikely, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Welcome Arsene Wenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 At last some positive news from the club. Yep, that's the first positive feeling supporters have had since the win against Swansea. Long overdue, and Reed leaves with a tarnished legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I’m disappointed Glasgow. Was expecting something a bit more original pal. Like newspapers that have obituaries written years in advance, thought you’d be prepared for this great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Welcome Arsene Wenger Good shout that.... i wonder if its possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 1/3rd of the steps needed. Ross Wilson and Mark Hughes replaced after we appoint Les's successor, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Hope so with Viera as manager Good shout that.... i wonder if its possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 November, 2018 Author Share Posted 8 November, 2018 But how did we identify said targets? Questions must be asked of our scouting setup.... You would hope we're looking at similar sized, well managed clubs and who is in charge there both in Europe and the Championship. Not necessarily who is winning everything but who is the best managed and has a good history of managerial appointments and squad recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 November, 2018 Author Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Welcome Arsene Wenger 70 next year, you'd have to wonder how long term and how motivated he would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Pointless unless WW Wilson goes too. If you get rid of Batman, Robin must go to. The end of the not so dynamic duo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 1/3rd of the steps needed. Ross Wilson and Mark Hughes replaced after we appoint Les's successor, please. WW Wilson must go too. He is as culpable as G-Reed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I didn't expect that, but this has given me a bit of renewed belief that there are people who can see what's going on beyond Reed and co. Without question he did contribute here and for elements of what he did we will always have to be thankful, but over the last couple of years his increased power and involvement has made him look increasingly out of his depth. For me, Reed and Wilson are the two main characters culpable for the disastrous transfer windows over the last couple of years - so whilst this is progress, we need to also see the back of Wilson as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 second best piece of news all year, after us beating Swansea anyway. thanks for the ride Les, but unfortunately last 2 years have ruined the previous 6 successful ones we did have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Pointless unless WW Wilson goes too. If you get rid of Batman, Robin must go to. The end of the not so dynamic duo!!! completely right ....Wee Ross must also go, pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 I think its the opposite actually. I think the club have realised that after three managers it is perhaps the players that are not good enough. So who did not get a replacement for VVD? Who sanctioned the Carillo deal? Who bought in the likes of Anonomousi and Vestergaard and Armstrong? Yes agree with the principle of what you are saying. That the major decisions taken on the footballing side have been poor decisions. It is likely the new VC/DoF (whatever title given) will have to relieve Hughes of his job, so yet another multi-million pound compensation payout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 my informed mate thinks he's actually been on gardening leave for the last six months, since the end of last season. Not sure if that is right? No. He’s been working. Interestingly trying to be less abrasive to staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 The biggest scapegoat to leave since Eric Black. We missed a trick by not going for Dan Ashworth, IMO. Who the hell is going is going to pick the new guy? Ross Wilson is effectively picking his boss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 WW Wilson must go too. He is as culpable as G-Reed!! There are two possible thoughts here... 1) Wilson is as to blame, and will be replaced. 2) Wilson has been working under difficult circumstances and has been overridden by Reed who has not listened to his advice. Time will tell, but from the outside it's hard to know who led who up the garden path. If it's the former then I would expect him to be replaced by whoever is coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 There's no doubt Les was being slowly phased out, when you consider that aside from the Fans Forum (which he'd been avoiding for years) he was barely seen in club media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Happy days, he should've gone in the summer. From the wording of the statement, it sounds as if he's been sacked rather than him resigning. The club believes the time is right to take constructive action and make a change that will provide new drive and direction to our football operations team and enable them to get results back on track. The search for the right replacement, along with a thorough review into the club’s football operations, has begun. I can't see Hughes lasting much longer in all honesty, a defeat on Saturday would be the end for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 There are two possible thoughts here... 1) Wilson is as to blame, and will be replaced. 2) Wilson has been working under difficult circumstances and has been overridden by Reed who has not listened to his advice. Time will tell, but from the outside it's hard to know who led who up the garden path. If it's the former then I would expect him to be replaced by whoever is coming in. Hmmmm as the official statement does not say Ross Wilson will oversee football matter in the interim as it should then I think we can assume he is toast as well !!!! good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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