8th highest wage bill in UK

[There when Franny scored]

[Batman]

Above Everton. And yet we can’t compete

 

Backwards strategy, clearly

When reed/Hughes finally takes us down, we are genuinely foooooooooooked

[doddisalegend]

Is that list current? Swansea really have a bigger wage bill than West Ham? Seems rather unlikely with Swansea being in the championship.

 

I'd be pretty surprised if ours and Newcastle's (?) wage bill was bigger than Everton and West Hams as well ?

[doddisalegend]

Just found this from the guy who compiled the list

 

"Many clubs use a legal loophole to avoid showing wages, but these are the figures that I have to hand"

 

In other words sound like quite a bit of guess work on his part...

Edited 31 October, 2018 by doddisalegend

[Pamplemousse]

I think Palace, Everton and Leicester spend more than us. Palace gave Zaha a bumper new deal which pushed them higher. West Ham on that chart seem a bit too low as well.

[Saint Garrett]

Can't help but think that list is largely nonsense.

[Cabbage_Face]

Least we are top half of something

 

#wemarchon

[shurlock]

Least we are top half of something

 

#wemarchon

 

Absolute mess.

[SuperSAINT]

If most of our strikers get low basic wages & heavily reliant on goal bonuses, we've likely saved millions the last couple of years.

 

[Pedantic disclaimer] This is post is not deemed factual.

[Delmary]

This clearly demonstrates RK’s failed strategy of having a bloated squad of average players. Quantity over quality! Interesting that he now refers to us as being a ‘small club’. Always thought this as a poor excuse for his recent mismanagement of SFC. The table clearly backs this up.

 

He should be sacked by Gao Jisheng and replaced by a new competent ceo and chairman.

[The Cat]

Bit is a waste of time really if half the results are out of date. He admits underneath, for example, that Swansea's are based on 2016/17.

[Baird of the land]

Not suprised. We've got a horribly bloated senior squad & a manager desperate to keep it bloated.

[doddisalegend]

This clearly demonstrates RK’s failed strategy of having a bloated squad of average players. Quantity over quality! Interesting that he now refers to us as being a ‘small club’. Always thought this as a poor excuse for his recent mismanagement of SFC. The table clearly backs this up.

 

He should be sacked by Gao Jisheng and replaced by a new competent ceo and chairman.

 

except the author the table admits he has had to guess most of it...

[Ultimatt]

Quantity over quality #WeMarchOn

 

I feel like this figure must include our loanees, we have a few away on decent packets.

[Saint86]

Makes a mockery of the club. Reed out.

[Heisenberg]

8th highest wage bill

 

Squad costing c£300m

 

5 league wins in 42

[Batman]

What a wonderful job the man heading up the football aspect of the club is doing.

 

Take a bow Les Reed

[tajjuk]

Looks a bit nonsense to me, we sold two of our highest earners VVD and Tadic, whilst the likes of West Ham and Everton have spent millions and have given those players huge contracts. The likes of Yarmalenko, Arnautovic, Felipe Anderson, Zaha, Siggurdsson, etc. are probably going to be one over 100k a week I reckon.

 

At a guess I'd say we were around 10th to 12th.

[doddisalegend]

Looks a bit nonsense to me, we sold two of our highest earners VVD and Tadic, whilst the likes of West Ham and Everton have spent millions and have given those players huge contracts. The likes of Yarmalenko, Arnautovic, Felipe Anderson, Zaha, Siggurdsson, etc. are probably going to be one over 100k a week I reckon.

 

 

 

At a guess I'd say we were around 10th to 12th.

 

 

The guy who complied the list basically admitted clubs aren't forthcoming about wages and he has had to use out of date info. So probably nonsense.

 

There is stuff all over the net on PL club and player wages and you can rarely find two sites that can agree.

 

Stuff like this can be interesting but you have to take it all with a massive pinch of salt.

[disconnect]

Isnt it well documented that Palace were paying a 'last legs' Cabaye over 100k/wk, and are now paying Sakho and Benteke similar and Zaha much more than that? Reckon they'd be above us. West Ham and Everton almost certainly higher than ours too, and I imagine Wolves' is probably at least trebled from that figure!

[benjii]

8th highest wage bill

 

Squad costing c£300m

 

5 league wins in 42

 

5 in 41, I think.

[Heisenberg]

5 in 41, I think.

 

Call me mystic Heisenberg - I predict we won't win the next game.

[Ultimatt]

Call me mystic Heisenberg - I predict we won't win the next game.

 

I'm more interested in your thoughts about our ambition, given we're spending that much. We must be really ambitious.

[Saint86]

I wonder how many club plants / Reedists will be out to defend him, discredit the data, and/or attack the dissenters.

 

Simple fact is that whether the figures are/aren't up to date, or we're a couple of positions out... our strategy (if there is one) has been executed horrendously.

 

8th highest wage bill

 

Squad costing c£300m

 

5 league wins in 42

Edited 1 November, 2018 by Saint86

[Doctoroncall]

Even accounting for a drop in wage due selling players and potential rise from other teams, the wage bill will be around £100m and around the 11th place mark.

[doddisalegend]

Another internet PL wage bill piece this one is based on the average wage of a teams squad member. we come in 11th with each Southampton player costing (allegedly) an average of £2,669,333 a year in wages..

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/hey-big-spenders-the-average-player-salary-of-every-premier-league-team/ss-BBQca75?ocid=spartandhp

[Dark Munster]

Another internet PL wage bill piece this one is based on the average wage of a teams squad member. we come in 11th with each Southampton player costing (allegedly) an average of £2,669,333 a year in wages..

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/hey-big-spenders-the-average-player-salary-of-every-premier-league-team/ss-BBQca75?ocid=spartandhp

Which means (even with relegation clauses) that we're ****ed if we go down. And if Les screwed up with some players having no relegation clauses (Forster?), we're beyond ****ed if we go down.

[Batman]

Which means (even with relegation clauses) that we're ****ed if we go down. And if Les screwed up with some players having no relegation clauses (Forster?), we're beyond ****ed if we go down.

 

Yep. No matter what if/when we go down we will be screwed

 

We are a club that for some bizarre reason, needs to sell our best players before we buy. That is in the big league with the big money

[Pamplemousse]

Yep. No matter what if/when we go down we will be screwed

 

We are a club that for some bizarre reason, needs to sell our best players before we buy. That is in the big league with the big money

 

At the moment we definitely need to sell first, but that's because we don't have any room in the 25 man squad.

[Dalek2003]

This clearly demonstrates RK’s failed strategy of having a bloated squad of average players. Quantity over quality! Interesting that he now refers to us as being a ‘small club’. Always thought this as a poor excuse for his recent mismanagement of SFC. The table clearly backs this up.

 

He should be sacked by Gao Jisheng and replaced by a new competent ceo and chairman.

 

We clearly did not learn from 2004/2005.

[Baird of the land]

This clearly demonstrates RK’s failed strategy of having a bloated squad of average players. Quantity over quality! Interesting that he now refers to us as being a ‘small club’. Always thought this as a poor excuse for his recent mismanagement of SFC. The table clearly backs this up.

 

He should be sacked by Gao Jisheng and replaced by a new competent ceo and chairman.

 

Especially from a club that bigged up itself as utilising its academy players.

[Saint Garrett]

So that works out about £51k a week, which is probably about right as we have a bloated squad of average players earning premier league salaries, and a few on big wages, e.g. Austin, Gabbiadini, Lemina....

[Nordic Saint]

Above Everton. And yet we can’t compete

 

Backwards strategy, clearly

When reed/Hughes finally takes us down, we are genuinely foooooooooooked

 

Our wage bill is not only bigger than Everton's and West Ham's, it's not far behind Spurs'! There has been much talk about how well our club is run financially but the truth is huge amounts of money have been wasted in transfer fees and wages to produce a poor team which looks like getting us relegated. Those expensive failures will then have to be offloaded for far less than we paid for them and the wages of those we can't offload will probably cripple us financially.

[doddisalegend]

So that works out about £51k a week, which is probably about right as we have a bloated squad of average players earning premier league salaries, and a few on big wages, e.g. Austin, Gabbiadini, Lemina....

 

 

Certainly its more be believable than the first link that started this thread which reckoned our wage bill was bigger than West Ham and Everton's.

[Nordic Saint]

Certainly its more be believable than the first link that started this thread which reckoned our wage bill was bigger than West Ham and Everton's.

 

Whether you choose to believe the figures or not, that link came from the leading academic researcher on football finance so he would have researched those figures about as thoroughly as anyone possibly could. It's his job.

 

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire

[Chez]

Is that list current?

 

Nope. This is last year's figures. Probably higher now.

 

I have suggested that our wage bill is too high for a long time now. The parachute payment is £40m. A 50% reduction in wages still leaves us short and who is to say that relegation clauses are 50% drops?

Edited 29 November, 2018 by Chez

[doddisalegend]

Whether you choose to believe the figures or not, that link came from the leading academic researcher on football finance so he would have researched those figures about as thoroughly as anyone possibly could. It's his job.

 

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire

 

 

Well you'd like to think so but on the twitter link he admitted that most clubs won't share details of wages so he had to best guess the list based on what info he could find....

[spyinthesky]

I wish people would not use the term 'squad'

 

It is 'ROSTER' as regularly spouted by our respected Chief Executive and also used to describe our well paid and highly skilled team members on the official Saints website.

 

Irrespective of this the management of the club has been on the same downhill trajectory as our on field heroes for a few years now and the club seems to be in total disarray.

[Dark Munster]

We clearly did not learn from 2004/2005.

Very true. Sacked a decent manager (Luggy/Puel) because of the prima donnas in the squad. Replaced him with a disaster (Wigley/the Clown), and then in panic replaced him with an appalling dinosaur (Saggy/Hughes).

[CB Fry]

Very true. Sacked a decent manager (Luggy/Puel) because of the prima donnas in the squad. Replaced him with a disaster (Wigley/the Clown), and then in panic replaced him with an appalling dinosaur (Saggy/Hughes).

Except Puel had an entire season not less than 20 matches, Pellegrino was an external appointment taken on during an extended recruitment process, while Wigley was a promoted from within panic appointment while the season was under way. And we stayed up under Hughes but didn't under Redknapp.

 

Its uncanny how completely not like each other the two periods are.

[Ultimatt]

Quantity over quality strategy.

[hypochondriac]

And how many of them would you want in the championship if we do go on to get relegated? Maybe 3 or 4?

[Bushey Saint]

And how many of them would you want in the championship if we do go on to get relegated? Maybe 3 or 4?

 

And what is this ‘if’ word you use?

 

 

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[spyinthesky]

I think we basically have a Championship 'roster' already.

 

Lose some of the less bad players with even poorer replacements (can we trust Ross Wilson?) and we could struggle in the Championship

[Dark Munster]

Except Puel had an entire season not less than 20 matches, Pellegrino was an external appointment taken on during an extended recruitment process, while Wigley was a promoted from within panic appointment while the season was under way. And we stayed up under Hughes but didn't under Redknapp.

 

Its uncanny how completely not like each other the two periods are.

The similarity is over the type of managers being appointed, in particular the sequence. If you're going to nitpick about other reasons why "completely not like each other the two periods are", fill your boots.

[CB Fry]

The similarity is over the type of managers being appointed, in particular the sequence. If you're going to nitpick about other reasons why "completely not like each other the two periods are", fill your boots.

 

Puel "similar type" to Paul Sturrock? Okay then, call me a nitpicker. Peas in a pod them two. Jesus wept.

 

Pellegrino was an external appointment with no connection to Saints, so not similar to Wigley at all who was a club insider appointed for his relationship with the players.

 

We stayed up under Hughes and went down under Redknapp. They aren't particularly similar either.

 

Sturrock > Wigley > Redknapp was done in about nine months. Puel had and entire season, Pellegrino appointed in the summer off-season, Hughes eight months after that, so a good two year process.

 

Other than that bang on mate.

 

If we replace Hughes with Jaidi, then sack him a handful of games later and replace with Pardew you might have a point but right now you don't.

[Dark Munster]

Puel "similar type" to Paul Sturrock? Okay then, call me a nitpicker. Peas in a pod them two. Jesus wept.

 

Pellegrino was an external appointment with no connection to Saints, so not similar to Wigley at all who was a club insider appointed for his relationship with the players.

 

We stayed up under Hughes and went down under Redknapp. They aren't particularly similar either.

 

Sturrock > Wigley > Redknapp was done in about nine months. Puel had and entire season, Pellegrino appointed in the summer off-season, Hughes eight months after that, so a good two year process.

 

Other than that bang on mate.

 

If we replace Hughes with Jaidi, then sack him a handful of games later and replace with Pardew you might have a point but right now you don't.

Jesus wept.