egg Posted 8 February, 2019 Share Posted 8 February, 2019 What's the basis for the suggestion that either a) Fraser is or has been unwell, and b) that he's taken a pay cut. Or is it baseless SaintsWeb b0ll0x? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 February, 2019 Share Posted 8 February, 2019 But your suggestion that it would be illegal to reduce someone's wages just for being ill is just plain wrong. It all depends on the contract terms of course, and in most cases outside of the football bubble it is completely normal. You’re getting wages/salary and CSP/ SSP mixed up. You can get CSP which may pay you less than your wage, and for most people SSP will be less, but you cannot reduce someone’s wages. There is zero chance that footballers will be paid anything other than 100% salary when they’re ill or injured. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 22 July, 2019 Share Posted 22 July, 2019 Article linking comments in the Sun (I know!!!) Seems to think Forster just had another pay rise?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 22 July, 2019 Share Posted 22 July, 2019 Oops! And the link: https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/southampton/southampton-goalkeeper-fraser-forsters-reported-wage-hike-absolutely-baffling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 July, 2019 Share Posted 22 July, 2019 Article linking comments in the Sun (I know!!!) Seems to think Forster just had another pay rise?? Is that not like on FM where players get % increases every year in their contract? No interested club could get to what he was on before the increase anyway, so Nixon’s report is a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 22 July, 2019 Share Posted 22 July, 2019 Article linking comments in the Sun (I know!!!) Seems to think Forster just had another pay rise?? Bonkers, but if true, probably a built in annual hike rather than a new deal. He's not going anywhere sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 August, 2019 Share Posted 1 August, 2019 Forster bizarrely linked with Liverpool move in the Daily Mail Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7306479/Premier-League-club-club-ultimate-guide-targets-transfer-window-shuts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 August, 2019 Share Posted 4 August, 2019 (edited) Forster bizarrely linked with Liverpool move in the Daily Mail Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7306479/Premier-League-club-club-ultimate-guide-targets-transfer-window-shuts.html I still don't believe this is true. At all. But.... @DominicKing_DM: Simon Mignolet has agreed a deal to join Club Brugge. He's flown to Brussels to sign his contract and told Liverpool's players this evening that he was leaving. More on @MailSport @_pauljoyce: Simon Mignolet set to join Club Brugge. Due to undergo medical tomorrow. Liverpool will look to sign a new No2. Edited 4 August, 2019 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 4 August, 2019 Share Posted 4 August, 2019 I still don't believe this is true. At all. But.... More likely Alex McCarthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 August, 2019 Share Posted 4 August, 2019 More likely Alex McCarthy Yeah. Much more likely of the 2. Any idea why Macca wasn't playing yesterday? - Not 1 of your 3 outs is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 August, 2019 Share Posted 4 August, 2019 Macca nearly went in Jan, so.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 5 August, 2019 Share Posted 5 August, 2019 I still don't believe this is true. At all. But.... More likely Alex McCarthy Slot filled - Adrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 5 August, 2019 Share Posted 5 August, 2019 McCarthy has no intention of leaving if he’s being offered less at another club than he’s on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 August, 2019 Share Posted 9 August, 2019 McCarthy has no intention of leaving if he’s being offered less at another club than he’s on now. Ditto Forster, I assume. I'm pessimistic at the best of times, but I thought we'd find a buyer for Macca. FF will probably be here for the duration of his contract at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 10 August, 2019 Author Share Posted 10 August, 2019 I wonder how much of a players wages at SMS are made up of appearance money, loyalty bonus, image rights (!!!) on top of a basic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2019 Share Posted 16 August, 2019 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4609707/fraser-forster-celtic-transfer-news-scott-bain/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 16 August, 2019 Share Posted 16 August, 2019 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4609707/fraser-forster-celtic-transfer-news-scott-bain/ Given they are out of europe, wonder what proportion of his wages they'll be able to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 August, 2019 Share Posted 16 August, 2019 This is really good news for everyone involved and I wish him well if this happens. He was great keeper for us in the early days and maybe a fresh start will restore his confidence and prolong his career. Fingers crossed for the big man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 August, 2019 Share Posted 16 August, 2019 Given they are out of europe, wonder what proportion of his wages they'll be able to pay. their higher earners are on circa £30k a week..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 August, 2019 Share Posted 16 August, 2019 This is really good news for everyone involved and I wish him well if this happens. He was great keeper for us in the early days and maybe a fresh start will restore his confidence and prolong his career. Fingers crossed for the big man! This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 16 August, 2019 Share Posted 16 August, 2019 This is really good news for everyone involved and I wish him well if this happens. He was great keeper for us in the early days and maybe a fresh start will restore his confidence and prolong his career. Fingers crossed for the big man! Total myth. He was never great, he had that one decent game at Arsenal that time. Other than the only saves he made were the ones straight at him and half of those he parried. Never had any command of the box and couldn't get to anything lower than his waist, can't catch and his distribution was always appalling. I really like Forster as a person (from what I know) and wish him all the very best. I've never heard anyone say a bad word about meeting him (though I haven't myself). I was delighted when we signed him because his performance for Celtic against Barca stuck in my mind but sadly he's been massively disappointing. Hopefully a move will do him good. All the best, big guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 August, 2019 Share Posted 16 August, 2019 Given they are out of europe, wonder what proportion of his wages they'll be able to pay. They aren't out of Europe. Europa League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Fraser Forster set for medical at #Celtic today after deal agreed with #Southampton. More @TheSunFootball @SunSport https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9770004/southampton-celtic-fraser-forster/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1566457480 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Fraser Forster set for medical at #Celtic today after deal agreed with #Southampton. More @TheSunFootball @SunSport https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9770004/southampton-celtic-fraser-forster/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1566457480 Not clear if it’s a loan or perm. Either way I’m happy for him and to get all or part of his wages off the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Not clear if it’s a loan or perm. Either way I’m happy for him and to get all or part of his wages off the bill Can’t imagine it’s a permanent. He’s on a huge long contract here. Would assume it’s a heavily subsidised loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Anything more than nothing has to be a benefit for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 The the surprise of nobody, it will be a loan: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17853531.gossip-southampton-goalkeeper-fraser-forster-linked-celtic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Funny how everyone can't find the cash when they want to buy back players. Guess it's the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Funny how everyone can't find the cash when they want to buy back players. Guess it's the wages. He’s likely on close to triple what Celtic pay their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 It’s a loan with option to buy at end of season. Can’t wait to see how he handles the first Old Firm match at Ibrox in 10 days time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 It’s a loan with option to buy at end of season. Can’t wait to see how he handles the first Old Firm match at Ibrox in 10 days time. That's assuming he'll start ahead of Craig Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 An interesting one, I'm really keen for him to have an excellent time up there. He's clearly lost his way a bit here and he needs to play. Dropping a level and playing for the best team in the league should mean he should be more confident, and therefore perform better. It may be that a season playing games every week, will help him build his confidence and put himself in the shop window next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 An interesting one, I'm really keen for him to have an excellent time up there. He's clearly lost his way a bit here and he needs to play. Dropping a level and playing for the best team in the league should mean he should be more confident, and therefore perform better. It may be that a season playing games every week, will help him build his confidence and put himself in the shop window next summer. He shouldn't have many saves to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Excellent news. McCarthy's as good a number two as a club our size can hope for. Forster is simply hopeless at this level now following his decline, but was above McCarthy in the goalkeeper pecking order for what I can imagine only being monetary reasons. Hopefully we can now keep hold of McCarthy as the adequate backup to Gunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Celtic have a wage cap at £25,000 a week. I should imagine he's on at least double that so we'll be paying some of his wages, but not all. Hopefully a year playing will make him a more attractive proposal to other teams for a permanent move next summer. Not quite sure how Celtic couldn't stump up the money, they've hardly spent big and have received a fair whack for Dembele and Tierney. Good luck to him up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 We're saving a few quid, he's going to get to play, and away from the pressure down here. Hopefully he can find his way back to being a decent keeper and we can get a nice fee. Win-win! Until he drops his first cross.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Until he drops his first cross.... I can't remember him dropping too many crosses... it's ANYTHING on target which is a problem for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 You’ve got to come and try and catch it before you can drop it....I seem to remember he like the comfort of standing on his white line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 He could be a new neighbor I'm told. Apparently still owns a place in my town If he moves back in I'll give him hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beancounter saint Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Good luck to him, hope he can get his career back on track. He was the only senior player to stay out signing autographs for all who were waiting after the open training session earlier in the Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 At long last! The guy does want to play football after all! I thought he was going to do **** all again for the season. Hope he does well, which puts him in the shop window next year and he can get his career back on track. Going from England number 2 to Southampton's 3rd goalkeeper is quite the fall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 At long last! The guy does want to play football after all! I thought he was going to do **** all again for the season. Hope he does well, which puts him in the shop window next year and he can get his career back on track. Going from England number 2 to Southampton's 3rd goalkeeper is quite the fall...Was it ever confirmed that he didn't want to play or was that based on your own supposition? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 He could be a new neighbor I'm told. Apparently still owns a place in my town If he moves back in I'll give him hell I suggest that you only need to be in the same town and it will be hell for him lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Was it ever confirmed that he didn't want to play or was that based on your own supposition? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Think it was confirmed by ITKs that he had refused to move even on loan on a few occasions over the last 2 transfer windows... It is not anyway the first time that the club have tried to move him on. He's played one game in the last 18 months whilst being the highest paid player at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 I suggest that you only need to be in the same town and it will be hell for him lol Forster will be ok as he doesn't live in bedsit land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Forster will be ok as he doesn't live in bedsit landThat's a bit unfair, he must be pretty well off as I was told he had a millionaires shortcake the other day. Only teasing Heis,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Think it was confirmed by ITKs that he had refused to move even on loan on a few occasions over the last 2 transfer windows... It is not anyway the first time that the club have tried to move him on. He's played one game in the last 18 months whilst being the highest paid player at the club. Not wanting to take certain moves is very different to not wanting to play. He may have refused moves for all sorts of good reasons. Not sure how you lurch from that to assuming the fella didn't want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Poor Celtic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Forster joins Celtic on loan Southampton Football Club can confirm that goalkeeper Fraser Forster has joined Celtic on loan for the remainder of the season. The 31-year-old has completed a switch back to the Scottish club, which he moved to Saints from in 2014, and will now look to help them secure a ninth league title in succession. Forster previously spent four seasons with the Glasgow side, joining on an initial loan from Newcastle in 2010 before making his switch to Parkhead permanent in 2012. Everyone at Southampton would like to wish Fraser well for the season ahead. https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2019-08-22/announcement-fraser-forster-southampton-celtic-season-loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2019 Share Posted 22 August, 2019 Probably the best move he could have hoped for. Back on familiar ground, knows the club, the fans know him.... hopefully he can regain some confidence. He hasn't played properly for years, obviously he had that killer injury which probably derailed his career a lot. But he was successful at Celtic and a lot of clubs looked at him when he was there. I don't have any hard feelings against the guy, this is the perfect place for him to get back playing and hopefully earn a move on the back of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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