norwaysaint Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 I really don't know enough about the other managers to say much, but those favourites are pretty dire. I'd prefer Rodgers over most of them. Surely we aren't a bad club for an aspiring club to come to though? We spend enough money, we have players with more potential than they've shown. We have a decent infrastructure and we did well recently enough that our reputation hasn't entirely gone to ****. We just need someone to come in and demand more of the players and stop persisting with those that underperform, until they get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 You all wanted Puel out. He went and we got worse. You all wanted Pellegrino out, he went and nothing changed. Getting rid of Hughes is not going to fix things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 Don't see any liklihood that Hughes will be sacked. There would be a huge contract payment to make and the owners are already in debt. We're lumbered with him, as we are with Forster. We used to be told top managers were lining up to come to us, no sign or rumour of anyone now The huge contract payment is still small beer when compared to the loss of revenue that will result from relegation. Parachutes only get you to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 You all wanted Puel out. He went and we got worse. You all wanted Pellegrino out, he went and nothing changed. Getting rid of Hughes is not going to fix things. Wise words, Cloggy. To be fair, we also want Reed and Kreuger out but that's harder to make happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 Bull****, he had a nightmare run in. West Ham was his only poor result. Leicester was pretty toss as was Everton. So I stand by the comment that Swansea essentially kept us up by being more crap than we were just at the right time. We won’t keep getting that fortunate. And it was no more nightmarish than anyone else. Also, are we to pretend he has had a ‘nightmare’ start this season? He’s now a shi* manager doing a shi* job. And the names being bandied about would be shi* appointments too. If anyone (and I’ve seen Bruce being mentioned today to go along with all the other dinosaurs which is depressing) from our management board are seriously considering any of them then it shows how out of touch they are and how much we are no longer a progressive thinking club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 Wise words, Cloggy. To be fair, we also want Reed and Kreuger out but that's harder to make happen. I don't really understand why we would improve if Reed and Kruger were to leave I don't really see what is wrong with the squad and why they fail to score so often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 I can 100% assure you that there are a lot of players who never backed Hughes! It's not hard to work out who they are. Are these the same wan*ers who didn’t back Puel and Pellegrino either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefScummer Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7685802/premier-league-bosses-sacked-stats/ This just popped up in recs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7685802/premier-league-bosses-sacked-stats/ This just popped up in recs. This link lead me to this, proving there is no guarantee of success no matter how big a name. Thierry Henry : who'd have thought ? https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7657865/thierry-henry-monaco-flops-reims-loss/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 7 November, 2018 Share Posted 7 November, 2018 (edited) A change is clearly needed. The team needs a kick up the nuts and it just isn't happening under Hughes. No goals from open play in 6 games is a sick joke. And if Hughes goes that means Reed and Wilson have got the last 3 appointments wrong and they surely have to walk as well. Edited 7 November, 2018 by Kingsbridge Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 A meeting happened, but not this week. Been a few changes this week. Looks like the club really want to win this one.You'd hope that would be the case every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 A meeting happened, but not this week. Been a few changes this week. Looks like the club really want to win this one. Cryptic. Do you mean the club met a prospective new manager before the City game? Or did the players have a clear the air meeting with Hughes? Or was there a Gao meeting with Reed? I do hope things are in train. And that the changes made are not just cosmetic. Could we have a new captain? I do hope so and that it’s Hoj Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 A meeting happened, but not this week. Been a few changes this week. Looks like the club really want to win this one. The only changes I’ve noticed at training this week is the players are having a few 11 a side matches against some red cones. Currently the cones are 3-1 up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 (edited) The only changes I’ve noticed at training this week is the players are having a few 11 a side matches against some red cones. Currently the cones are 3-1 up. I'm guessing the 1 we've scored against the cones went in off Jimmy Bollard?! Apologies. Edited 8 November, 2018 by LeBizzier69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Apparently been sacked. Guess we'll find out at 2pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Apparently been sacked. Guess we'll find out at 2pm.Hardly a surprise if true although it should be Reed or Ralph who follow him out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Hardly a surprise if true although it should be Reed or Ralph who follow him out the door. Turns out it was Reed, mate misheard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Turns out it was Reed, mate misheard It might be both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 The only changes I’ve noticed at training this week is the players are having a few 11 a side matches against some red cones. Currently the cones are 3-1 up. Joking aside-ish, changes are afoot, I believe the players are training at the stadium (not something they usually do) a few times this week, probably trying to get them acquainted with where the goalposts are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Joking aside-ish, changes are afoot, I believe the players are training at the stadium (not something they usually do) a few times this week, probably trying to get them acquainted with where the goalposts are. I suppose the atmosphere would still feel the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 It might be both... Can't imagine we'd sack Hughes 2 days before a crucial home game. We should have done that on Sunday evening (we should never have offered him a new deal in the summer IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Can't imagine we'd sack Hughes 2 days before a crucial home game. We should have done that on Sunday evening (we should never have offered him a new deal in the summer IMO). I assume we will have to find a Les replacement now before we can find a Hughes replacement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Hughes distancing himself from the summer signings in an interview with Blackmore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Hughes distancing himself from the summer signings in an interview with Blackmore... His typical tactic, did that at stoke. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Hughes distancing himself from the summer signings in an interview with Blackmore... Think he made that point on Sunday when he named all the summer signings on the bench excluding Danny Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Please don’t let the useless cretin Hughes try and weasel out of the blame for his appalling management. Sack him quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 Hughes distancing himself from the summer signings in an interview with Blackmore... That’ll get them on board before a crucial game. Top man management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 That’ll get them on board before a crucial game. Top man management They can't get much worse so hopefully this inspires them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2018 Share Posted 8 November, 2018 The proverbial monkey and the typewriter would have had a better strike rate in the transfer market than Les since the 2015 summer window. Staggeringly incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 This all sounds worryingly familiar... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5228591/How-gone-badly-wrong-Mark-Hughess-Stoke.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 This all sounds worryingly familiar... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5228591/How-gone-badly-wrong-Mark-Hughess-Stoke.html It sure does! Faulty form, fan friction, defensive dilemmas, suspect recruitment, curious selections ... and that was his time at Stoke. For Stoke, read Saints. He has until the end of next month to deliver, IMHO. A new DoF may not even give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 This all sounds worryingly familiar... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5228591/How-gone-badly-wrong-Mark-Hughess-Stoke.html I’m sure every club-manager breakdown has the same characteristics, so it’s not necessarily unique to Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 I’m sure every club-manager breakdown has the same characteristics, so it’s not necessarily unique to Hughes. Some of the elements - undoubtedly. All of them - unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 Ralph on Hughes future: @AdamBlackmore: Just spoke with #saintsfc chairman Ralph Krueger, and it included a one word answer: - Me: One newspaper ran a story last Saturday saying Hughes would be fired if you lose to Watford tomorrow - is that true? - Ralph: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 Ralph on Hughes future: Oh dear Jeff will be off on one again now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 Ralph on Hughes future: Technically correct, it was two papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 Oh dear Jeff will be off on one again now We should probably sack Hughes for the sake of Jeff's health, I do fear for him at times. Unhinged doesn't cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 We should probably sack Hughes for the sake of Jeff's health, I do fear for him at times. Unhinged doesn't cover it. You're positioning yourself alongside Always and you're saying I'm unhinged. Isn't it odd how its always you two chatting about me..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 Ralph on Hughes future: That could mean he will be sacked after Watford regardless of the result. I’m hoping they have the new manager lined up and he didn’t want to be told who to buy by Charlton’s worst ever manager, hence the change in structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 That could mean he will be sacked after Watford regardless of the result. I’m hoping they have the new manager lined up and he didn’t want to be told who to buy by Charlton’s worst ever manager, hence the change in structure. Reading Ralphs interview in the echo I think he is safe for now though its Ralph speak so it could mean anything... This sounds like a long process, does that mean Mark Hughes’ job will be safe for a long period because there is nobody in the role Les occupied to take that decision if it were ever required? These are the changes we have made and we are very comfortable with the personnel and the staff we have in place and Mark is in the lead in the most visible of all football roles. We are expecting a change in performance and a change in results with some minor shifts we have done within the club. We are going optimistically into the game against Watford and I think that the energy we needed to make these changes was massive and we have expended that. It’s now about let’s appraise our situation and what do we have and then we make further decisions. I have gone through all the leaders of football in the different roles and we have a lot of good people in that environment and we will let them go to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry12 Posted 9 November, 2018 Share Posted 9 November, 2018 I don't really understand why we would improve if Reed and Kruger were to leave I don't really see what is wrong with the squad and why they fail to score so often are you trying for a humeruss angle or are you clinically obtuse. Thick canute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 10 November, 2018 Share Posted 10 November, 2018 You're positioning yourself alongside Always and you're saying I'm unhinged. Isn't it odd how its always you two chatting about me..? Seeing things now jeffery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 November, 2018 Share Posted 10 November, 2018 You're positioning yourself alongside Always and you're saying I'm unhinged. Isn't it odd how its always you two chatting about me..? Cut Always some slack. Its been a difficult week for him. He’s obviously in grief and needs to work things out at his own pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 10 November, 2018 Share Posted 10 November, 2018 Cut Always some slack. Its been a difficult week for him. He’s obviously in grief and needs to work things out at his own pace. Stalking again you are developing a unhealthy, yet very funny fixation with me.... guess its my turn for now but you wll soon chase your other obsession in sadoldgit.... Try getting out more and not just living for this forum... help is out there if you want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 November, 2018 Author Share Posted 10 November, 2018 please for the love of god, get rid of him and do it over the next 48 hours or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 10 November, 2018 Share Posted 10 November, 2018 Enough is enough, he has to go. Officially worse than Pellegrino. I get that we are ****, we've been stripped of our best assets and replaced them poorly which he isn't responsible for, but I will not accept that there's nobody out there who could do a better job. He's ****ing awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 10 November, 2018 Share Posted 10 November, 2018 You're positioning yourself alongside Always and you're saying I'm unhinged. Isn't it odd how its always you two chatting about me..? I'm only responding to your inane posts. You don't like Hughes, fine, neither do I particularly, but you derail every thread with what appears to be nothing but vile and hatred, and you just come across as bitter and twisted, which isn't healthy for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 10 November, 2018 Share Posted 10 November, 2018 Enough is enough, he has to go. Officially worse than Pellegrino. I get that we are ****, we've been stripped of our best assets and replaced them poorly which he isn't responsible for, but I will not accept that there's nobody out there who could do a better job. He's ****ing awful. I’m no Hughes fan, but I think he’ll be staying in the short term. Nothing in Krueger’s comments this week or in Wilson’s Telegraph piece make me think he’s in danger of getting sacked anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 10 November, 2018 Share Posted 10 November, 2018 Hughes isn't going anywhere, nor should he. Some people here are over the top with their anti-Hughes stance. Its almost like Hughes beat them up as a kid or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 November, 2018 Author Share Posted 10 November, 2018 Hughes isn't going anywhere, nor should he. Some people here are over the top with their anti-Hughes stance. Its almost like Hughes beat them up as a kid or something. you are strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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