warsash saint Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Some of you are too young or short memories to remember the shocking football we were playing under Strachen at the end!! 2 words...Neil McCann! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Some of you are too young or short memories to remember the shocking football we were playing under Strachen at the end!! 2 words...Neil McCann! I'm not. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Some of you are too young or short memories to remember the shocking football we were playing under Strachen at the end!! 2 words...Neil McCann! WGS' last season with us was awful in just about all areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 I can't believe Hughes is still here. FFS SACK the useless barsteward today!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 WGS' last season with us was awful in just about all areas. .... and many think Hughes is a dinosaur. They need to be very careful what they wish for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 I can't believe Hughes is still here. FFS SACK the useless barsteward today!!!!!!!So who is going to sack him and admit wrong again? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 So who is going to sack him and admit wrong again? Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkAt the start if season he deserved the chance - now weird tactics team selections players unfit no drive no passion on pitch but again who will sack the holy trinity above Hughes too. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 So who is going to sack him and admit wrong again? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalkjust been reading the STOKE forum and what they think about HUGHES worth a look, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 just been reading the STOKE forum and what they think about HUGHES worth a look, If it's what they thought last season then it's not a surprise - they could see this coming as soon as we appointed him (as could a few others of us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Next Manager odds ( per Paddy Power) Moyes 7/2 Allardyce 6 Rodgers 7 Martin O'Neill 7 Pardew 10 Michael O'Neill 10 Martinez 12 Van Gaal 12 Strachan 16 Hiddink 20 Klinsmann 20 Pearson 20 Bilic 20 Bruce 20 Howe 33 de Boer 33 Lampard 33 Monk 33 Redknapp 33 Benitez 33 Dyche 33 Pahars 66 Gerrard 66 MLT 100 Yes to Rodgers, Van Gaal, Hiddink, Howe, Lampard and Benitez. Bosz with Erwin Koeman would also be a good option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 just been reading the STOKE forum and what they think about HUGHES worth a look, They’re very good at holding onto grudges, and are taking delight not just in Hughes’ predicament, but in the club’s predicament as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Unless we get Eddie Howe we aint going anywhere other than Nott Arf Krap next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Bosz with Erwin Koeman would also be a good option. Reasonable shout. Was assistant to Cocu in Turkey but he’s recently been sacked. Rein knows the club and didn’t want to leave in the first place. Personally I’d go for Rodgers then failing that a European option Jardim, Bosz etc. But I’d much rather we take a gamble on a young head then go for a safe pair of hands (I.e Moyes/Bruce). I’d be inclined to give Arteta a pop and stick with him (assuming we see some kind of improvement) and let him rebuild in the championship if we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 The numbers speak for themselves Win % Adkins 22.7% Poch 35.2% Koeman 47.4% Puel 31.6% MoPe 16.7% Hughes 15.8% Pts/game Adkins 1.00 Poch 1.39 Koeman 1.62 Puel 1.21 MoPe 0.93 Hughes 0.79 Goals scored/game Adkins 1.36 Poch 1.35 Koeman 1.49 Puel 1.08 MoPe 0.97 Hughes 0.79 Goals conceded/game Adkins 1.82 Poch 1.22 Koeman 0.97 Puel 1.26 MoPe 1.47 Hughes 1.68 And guess which one on that list was there yesterday according to Solent commentary (who saw fit to mention it twice in case we missed it the first time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 It's odd discussion continues and grows after defeats. Most have seen years of premier league football. We all know what sort of manager Hughes is. Even if this wasn't my club, I'd find it hard to see him turning it round now. His record is appalling. He had some ok moments at Stoke but spent a lot, with many players still struggling to find form. And it all went badly wrong. He was so lucky to get a job as good as this and he's been awful. Many will continue to slag off our squad but there's no chance he's getting even half the potential out of it. I'm tired of seeing players go backwards, having no identity and not knowing who'll be playing where each week. It's dire management. But it all comes down to the next appointment. That's 2 abysmal ones in a row. Reed should have gone for that alone. If we get a third badly wrong in a row, or don't fix it very soon, we'll go down. Sort it in the next few weeks and there's still plenty of time to push for mid-table in what is an incredibly average/rubbish bottom half. Sack him now and I bet we beat Watford. I try & look at us from that perspective too & when I view us through that lens, I see us as a team like Swansea & Sunderland - A team who recruited badly & who's manager that kept them up the previous season isn't the man for the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Hedeserved his chance and I listened to 606 and from the neutrals view they believe he deserves longer. Listening to a couple ofour fans on there though!! Pete was one who wanted Hughes gone but couldnt say who he wanted. We get little sympathy after our treatment of Puel. 8th a cup final and we still moaned, so cry wolf toooften and others dont listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Hedeserved his chance and I listened to 606 and from the neutrals view they believe he deserves longer. Listening to a couple ofour fans on there though!! Pete was one who wanted Hughes gone but couldnt say who he wanted. We get little sympathy after our treatment of Puel. 8th a cup final and we still moaned, so cry wolf toooften and others dont listenIts what fans do though Boro top of league booed players off after a 0-0 2 weeks ago Leeds fans moaning only won 2-1 yesterday. Sacking Puel wasnt wrong employing him in first place was. 20/20 hindsight. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 And guess which one on that list was there yesterday according to Solent commentary (who saw fit to mention it twice in case we missed it the first time). Yep, heard that. Guess he was just watching Dutch players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Yep, heard that. Guess he was just watching Dutch players. wouldn't of thought so as only Hoedt was playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 wouldn't of thought so as only Hoedt was playing Netherlands must be in dire straits if he came just to watch him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 I presume he was back in the UK for a weekend and was just taking in a game. I can't believe for one minute he is considering coming back to manage us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Unless we get Eddie Howe we aint going anywhere other than Nott Arf Krap next season Eddie won't come, it's too far from Bournemouth and he gets homesick. Plus the blue rinse brigade from Boscombe will write some mildly rude letters. Love to have his style of play though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Its what fans do though Boro top of league booed players off after a 0-0 2 weeks ago Leeds fans moaning only won 2-1 yesterday. Sacking Puel wasnt wrong employing him in first place was. 20/20 hindsight. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalkwe will never see eye to eye on this one, and it will always rankle with me that he wasnt given the time to develop a team. He took over from RK but in the meanwhile lost 50 goals as Pelle and Mane were sold. We still are minus the goals and the team is struggling due to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 wouldn't of thought so as only Hoedt was playing Wonder if Gao might bring him in as a consultant to advise on football matters? That could be a good rumour to start..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Unless we get Eddie Howe we aint going anywhere other than Nott Arf Krap next season No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 And guess which one on that list was there yesterday according to Solent commentary (who saw fit to mention it twice in case we missed it the first time). I'd have him back like a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Giovanni van Bronckhorst will be our new saviour! Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Have any of the ITKers got any inside info on the situation regarding MH's position as it stands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 WGS' last season with us was awful in just about all areas. What a ludicrous comment to make. In WGS’s last season (he resigned at the turn of the new year from memory) we were 4th in the Premier League driving up to play Fulham at QPR’s ground. How on earth is 4th in the Premier League “awful”??? Blimey you must have thought Puel was a disaster finishing 8th and a cup final! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Sorry meant to say “on Boxing Day” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 What a ludicrous comment to make. In WGS’s last season (he resigned at the turn of the new year from memory) we were 4th in the Premier League driving up to play Fulham at QPR’s ground. How on earth is 4th in the Premier League “awful”??? Blimey you must have thought Puel was a disaster finishing 8th and a cup final! Yes, I thought that was harsh on WGS. Yes, McCann wasn’t a great signing but WGS didn’t get the cash to push on he needed e.g. Malbranque. First half of the season we were very effective, good at the back with Killer and Antti commanding, Le Saux, Doddy and Claus hadn’t lost their legs yet. Beattie still had great form in the first half of that season and Phillips got a few. We weren’t as good as the previous season, when the pressing and energy was great to watch although not quite as pretty on the eye as Nigel, Poch and Ronald’s teams. Selling Bridgey did lose some attacking thrust. But we kept on getting results until that Fulham game, then Newcastle at home in the Cup, WGS didn’t sign a new contract (a bit like the Koeman saga) with rumours he needed a hip operation and it unravelled after that barring a new manager bounce under Sturrock. There was one - Man City away, Wolves away, Liverpool home. The players were always very fit though, Wenger reckoned the fittest in the PL and if this current shower played the 02/03 they would lose by several goals as well as stopping to throw up last nights roast dinner and several pints because they’d been run senseless by Mazza, Bridgey, Killer and the rest of the side I loved watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 What a ludicrous comment to make. In WGS’s last season (he resigned at the turn of the new year from memory) we were 4th in the Premier League driving up to play Fulham at QPR’s ground. How on earth is 4th in the Premier League “awful”??? Blimey you must have thought Puel was a disaster finishing 8th and a cup final! Yes, maybe it was harsh but the trend was there. His 18 month pursuit of McCann, who turned out to one of our worst signings, was an indication that his judgement was in question. We won only one of his last 8 games with us before departing with his Harry Redknappesque excuse of a bad hip. His heart wasn’t in it and it showed in the teams performances. The decline continued and we finished 12th although Sturrock was a big part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Strachan...dear god no. The game has passed him by. A young manager who plays an attacking brand of football please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Huddersfield going above us as it stands Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Huddersfield going above us as it stands Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkEr, no. Not if they win ten-nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Oh. Soz. Table adjusted already then Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 We need a manager that can take over recruitment and has a record of building a team. We also need to stop buying "potential with resale value" for a couple years and get some leaders in; we have the 2nd youngest squad in the league. And we need to stop buying quantity over quality; we're not playing twice a week, we don't need 2 senior players for each position. It's recruitment that has failed us more than any manager has. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Huddersfield going above us as it stands Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Current table has them on 6 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Oh. Soz. Table adjusted already then Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Too quick for me haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Next Manager odds ( per Paddy Power) Moyes 7/2 Allardyce 6 Rodgers 7 Martin O'Neill 7 Pardew 10 Michael O'Neill 10 Martinez 12 Van Gaal 12 Strachan 16 Hiddink 20 Klinsmann 20 Pearson 20 Bilic 20 Bruce 20 Howe 33 de Boer 33 Lampard 33 Monk 33 Redknapp 33 Benitez 33 Dyche 33 Pahars 66 Gerrard 66 MLT 100 These would vary from possibly ok to great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Pearson? Behave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Pearson? Behave! Pearson would at least intimidate Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Interesting watching the spirit and effort of Huddesrfield tonight. And amazing home support. None of which we have Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sensible Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Moyes was a Rupert Lowe target back in the day does anyone recall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 Moyes was a Rupert Lowe target back in the day does anyone recall? Yes - 2001 after Hoddle left before we moved to St Marys. I think Moyes was offered the job, but wanted to bring his own backroom team of 2 or 3 from Preston. Rupert wouldn't have it so we ended up with Staurt Grey staying on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 The mirror are running an 'exclusive' that says hes gone if we fail to win on Saturday, also say Fat Sam and Moyes are top of the replacement list..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 I’ve heard similar that he will be gone lose or draw Saturday. Moyes and Big Sam are not on clubs list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 I’ve heard similar that he will be gone lose or draw Saturday. Moyes and Big Sam are not on clubs list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What else have you heard cabbage face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 What else have you heard cabbage face?Don't ask, he constantly hears voices. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 November, 2018 Share Posted 5 November, 2018 The mirror are running an 'exclusive' that says hes gone if we fail to win on Saturday, also say Fat Sam and Moyes are top of the replacement list..... Express also with an 'exclusive' : https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1041314/Southampton-EXCLUSIVE-Mark-Hughes-could-be-sacked-Saturday Both articles include reference to Jardim: Leonardo Jardim, the former Monaco coach, had been high on the Southampton board’s wish list. The Portuguese now looks set for a move to the Chinese Super League, with Beijing Guoan a possibility. IF he was high on our wishlist why haven't we snared him by now. Either the article(s) are crap with no substance, or Reed is dithering again. Probably both are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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