Soulful Odin Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 Played for Ralph at Ingolstadt didn’t he? Easy link, agent leaking Liverpool want him as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 Hopefully we are not just basing it on his performance against us: Yes, took his chances, and that's something we struggle to do, but he won't be facing defences routinely giving him acres of space. Still if Ralph rates him and thinks he can get him fit and motivated, then that's fine, Can't see RH being told who he's going to sign by Ross. But they do listen to the manager who he is interested in and if it’s been on the black box then we have a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 It's pretty comforting to know we may be investigating a potential big money move for a striker who has scored only one goal this season. Let's not change a winning formula, lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 It's pretty comforting to know we may be investigating a potential big money move for a striker who has scored only one goal this season. Let's not change a winning formula, lads. Well, at least he's improving. He didn't score any last season. If he keeps improving at this rate, he could eventually become as prolific a goal scorer as Shane Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 December, 2018 Share Posted 11 December, 2018 It's pretty comforting to know we may be investigating a potential big money move for a striker who has scored only one goal this season. Let's not change a winning formula, lads. Looking a bit more in depth, he hasn't played since October, so it's basically 7 apps in 2 months. A fair few of those were subs too. - Subbed on - 83 mins - Subbed on - 67 mins - Scored - Subbed on - h.t. - Started - subbed off - 76 mins - Started - 90 mins - Subbed on - 74 mins - Scored - Subbed on - h.t. 2 goals in 2 starts and 1.5 games in sub appearances. A bit better than Carrillo, although why he hasn't played more I don't know. (I'm not saying he's any good, especially with 0 last year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Attacking player with 44 goals in 280 games. Not able to become a first team regular for 4 seasons. Fits our 2016 strategy change perfectly! When can he sign? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Well, at least he's improving. He didn't score any last season. If he keeps improving at this rate, he could eventually become as prolific a goal scorer as Shane Long. Attacking player with 44 goals in 280 games. Not able to become a first team regular for 4 seasons. Fits our 2016 strategy change perfectly! When can he sign? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk So is he written off already then ? Assume this is Hermann, who is described on Wikipedia as a MF rather than an out and out striker by the way. Although this doesn't make a difference to how often he is selected of course, but might put his scoring rate into a slightly different context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 (edited) In fairness I'm talking about the striker Selke mentioned in the linked article not Hermann who is a midfielder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davie_Selke The article said he's scored once this season but Wiki says zero. No idea. But he did score a few last year. The manager knows him and he is still young. Quite frankly as long as they are Ralph's picks we can sign who he wants. He's our only hope so let him get on with it. Edited 12 December, 2018 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20181212/282802127429669 Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 We were linked to Selke a few years ago. The club probably just haven't gotten around to deleting his name from the black box/football manager database. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 We were linked to Selke a few years ago. The club probably just haven't gotten around to deleting his name from the black box/football manager database. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Linked summer 2014, if I remember rightly, so would at least be someone we've tracked instead of going with just the manager's opinion like Carrillo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 The Selke link is likely to be because he used to play for him and also as his style of play at Leipzig was basically to have a bigger striker with a smaller faster one. Poulsen was that guy for him when the came 2nd in the league and he only scored 5 in 29 that year, so it sound more like a player to fit/get the system working not necessarily someone to bang in a load of goals. The issue is we don't have a Werner to go with him, who got 21 league goals that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 In fairness I'm talking about the striker Selke mentioned in the linked article not Hermann who is a midfielder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davie_Selke The article said he's scored once this season but Wiki says zero. No idea. But he did score a few last year. The manager knows him and he is still young. Quite frankly as long as they are Ralph's picks we can sign who he wants. He's our only hope so let him get on with it. Fair enough. Looking at his stats for this season, he seems to have been brought on almost religiously on the 60 minute mark every game, the Leonardo Ulloa of the Bundesliga almost. Looks like Ibisevic has been banging them in, so perhaps not his fault he isn't playing/scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 December, 2018 Share Posted 12 December, 2018 Fair enough. Looking at his stats for this season, he seems to have been brought on almost religiously on the 60 minute mark every game, the Leonardo Ulloa of the Bundesliga almost. Looks like Ibisevic has been banging them in, so perhaps not his fault he isn't playing/scoring. Sounds like we need Ibisevic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 Anyone mentioned Gary Cahill? Unless some of our CBs get going we could do worse. Actually few not getting a look in under Sarri. Moses, Drinkwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 Anyone mentioned Gary Cahill? Unless some of our CBs get going we could do worse. Actually few not getting a look in under Sarri. Moses, Drinkwater Drinkwater would be great in the 4-2-2-2 system. I like Moses too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 How would y'all feel about doffing our cap at Nat Clyne? Cardiff interested. We probs would have kept him if Liverpool hadn't offered us 5x our purchase price and we hadn't had a deputy in Chambers. What about now? Assuming he's no longer puffing the magic dragon, and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 Anyone mentioned Gary Cahill? Unless some of our CBs get going we could do worse. Actually few not getting a look in under Sarri. Moses, Drinkwater Expect to see Cahill rock up at Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 14 December, 2018 Share Posted 14 December, 2018 How would y'all feel about doffing our cap at Nat Clyne? Cardiff interested. We probs would have kept him if Liverpool hadn't offered us 5x our purchase price and we hadn't had a deputy in Chambers. What about now? Assuming he's no longer puffing the magic dragon, and all that.Got your timelines wrong. We sold Chambers long before we sold Clyne. And we could only have kept him for another season as he was running his contract down (as he did at Palace) and would've walked on a free. Can't see us bringing him back on a permanent deal (we already have a Liverpool player on loan, so another is out of the question), though he has always been a better player than Cedric. I imagine our focus will be in more important areas of the team - retaining our PL status isn't likely to come down to us having an inconsistent right back. Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Pepe's contract mutually terminated by Beskitas due them cutting down on wages, would absolutely take him for 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Pepe's contract mutually terminated by Beskitas due them cutting down on wages, would absolutely take him for 6 months. Yes please! We were linked with him the other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Yes please! We were linked with him the other week. Get it done Les! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Get it done Les!I've heard that lazy sod hasn't done a lick of work for us for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Get it done Les! More likely to happen now than the stupid fool is back on the golf course. Pity it is two years too late to save the club. Plenty to get rid of but heck knows who would want them. If Stoke don’t take Fraser then loan him out to League One or two, re-emphasise that the club want him off the wage bill and lower league action is his future if he doesn’t shift himself ASAP. Apart from the keepers and Romeu I don’t mind who leaves in January in the slightest. Would love the League One promotion side we had to play this lot - they would score a hatful, especially Rickie against those joke CBs. Vestergaard is typical of the CB type and quality he destroyed in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Not sure pep is the leader we need. We need an organiser at the back, not a headless thug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Not sure pep is the leader we need. We need an organiser at the back, not a headless thug. Oh I don’t know, would frighten the other defenders witless, they would get him screaming at them if they doze off. Good SFC sides have always had leaders/enforcers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 16 December, 2018 Share Posted 16 December, 2018 Need three players to build on today's performance - a CB with some pace, a utility midfielder with some pace & energy (Quina at Watford has been very impressive last two games and only cost them £1m), and an attacker with either genuine pace or genuine strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 16 December, 2018 Share Posted 16 December, 2018 I’ve been saying this for seasons... there are so many good players at reasonable prices out there - we don’t have to spend £20m per player to get one. Look in the 2nd tier leagues there’s plenty who can make a step up. Our problem has been the recruitment for a long time. Hopefully wee Ross wasn’t the problem and perhaps now his shackles are off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bstokesaint Posted 16 December, 2018 Share Posted 16 December, 2018 Finally a glimmer of hope from today’s game! Just watching the Liverpool game got me thinking about Lallana and clyne who haven’t had a look in this season (clynes first start today) Lallana would suit our new style and Clyne is far better than Cedric who looks like he’d leave at the first opportunity. Obviously Spider-Man is wasted at Everton but don’t think he has the legs for this system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 December, 2018 Share Posted 18 December, 2018 Weird. Southampton eye Fulham goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli as they prepare for possible exit of Alex McCarthy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6508897/Southampton-eye-Fulhams-Marcus-Bettinelli-prepare-possible-exit-Alex-McCarthy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 December, 2018 Share Posted 18 December, 2018 Weird. Southampton eye Fulham goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli as they prepare for possible exit of Alex McCarthy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6508897/Southampton-eye-Fulhams-Marcus-Bettinelli-prepare-possible-exit-Alex-McCarthy.htmlNot that weird. If we got a load of money for him then I'd sell to finance other signings. It's our strongest position and I don't think he's that great anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 December, 2018 Share Posted 18 December, 2018 Weird. Southampton eye Fulham goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli as they prepare for possible exit of Alex McCarthy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6508897/Southampton-eye-Fulhams-Marcus-Bettinelli-prepare-possible-exit-Alex-McCarthy.html Who makes this stuff up. We've clearly already identified successor to McCarthy and signed him. We also have Harry Lewis and Desparate Dan on our books. Suggest the Mail are doing their usual and making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 18 December, 2018 Share Posted 18 December, 2018 I’m guessing a wide man with some pace will be our priority in Jan, other than getting players out the door who don’t fit Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 18 December, 2018 Share Posted 18 December, 2018 Weird. Southampton eye Fulham goalkeeper Marcus Bettinelli as they prepare for possible exit of Alex McCarthy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6508897/Southampton-eye-Fulhams-Marcus-Bettinelli-prepare-possible-exit-Alex-McCarthy.html If we have to sell players in order to fund player purchases, and if Gunn is good as many think he is, then I can see the club cashing in on McCarthy and making Gunn the number one, but surely there are other priorities in the club besides another back up keeper, especially if we can’t get rid of Forster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 Not that weird. If we got a load of money for him then I'd sell to finance other signings. It's our strongest position and I don't think he's that great anyway. Agree - though I don't know who realistically would sign him. None of the big boys need a keeper, unless they want an expensive English back up for home grown quota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17309062.southampton-midfielder-mario-lemina-is-wanted-by-psg Cash in on Lemina for £30m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17309062.southampton-midfielder-mario-lemina-is-wanted-by-psg Cash in on Lemina for £30m?Personally feel £30m is nowhere near enough. Player of huge potential, hence linked with PSG (and City last year). When you think of players we have paid nearly £20m for and what some players have cost in recent times then I think £40m would be more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 Personally feel £30m is nowhere near enough. Player of huge potential, hence linked with PSG (and City last year). When you think of players we have paid nearly £20m for and what some players have cost in recent times then I think £40m would be more realistic. If PSG want him then we can slap on another £20m as an "oil fee", not like they can't afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17309062.southampton-midfielder-mario-lemina-is-wanted-by-psg Cash in on Lemina for £30m? Never know what to make of these "he's on a 5 man shortlist" - Didn't similar happen with a link to Man City? Largely would depend on if we needed the cash or not. I'm happy to leave it to Ralph to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 If PSG want him then we can slap on another £20m as an "oil fee", not like they can't afford it. not so sure aren't they in some issues with regards to FFP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 I'd take £40 Million for Lemina plus add-ons based on achievements while he's at the club. £30 Million isn't enough though IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17309062.southampton-midfielder-mario-lemina-is-wanted-by-psg Cash in on Lemina for £30m? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 We'd be nuts selling our best player in January when we're in a relegation fight. I'd listen to offers over £40m next summer IF he stated his desire to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 No point selling him in January, his two managers here have been useless for him, he'll show his full potential under Ralph IMO and we'll be able to command an even bigger fee. We need to ship players out because we don't have room in the 25 man squad, there are many more I'd move on ahead of Lemina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 No point selling him in January, his two managers here have been useless for him, he'll show his full potential under Ralph IMO and we'll be able to command an even bigger fee. We need to ship players out because we don't have room in the 25 man squad, there are many more I'd move on ahead of Lemina. I think we'd all agree problem is no one wants our **** players we will only get offers for the good ones and we all know what the club gets like when they smell profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 Lemina is top class and as I said (and was shot down for) a year ago, he’d get in any team in the PL, other than maybe city. We need him this year. That being said, if we do sell him, I’d be doing what I could to bring back Wanyama, who’d suit our new style perfectly imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 Here we go again, fake press stories aimed at destabilising our club just when we might be getting our act together. Lots of nasty, spiteful people in the football media who probably hate us for what we did to one of their precious clubs on Saturday in the full TV spotlight beamed around the world. Having landed a big fish manager in the form of Ralph Hasenhüttl the last thing the club would do now is pull the rug out from under his feet by selling any of our best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 Lemina is top class and as I said (and was shot down for) a year ago, he’d get in any team in the PL, other than maybe city. We need him this year. That being said, if we do sell him, I’d be doing what I could to bring back Wanyama, who’d suit our new style perfectly imo Capable of being top class. Not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 Capable of being top class. Not the same. I don’t believe any player had the tools to reach or play at their best under the previous 2/3 clowns we’ve had in charge issuing little to no tactical instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 19 December, 2018 Share Posted 19 December, 2018 Lemina seems to have seriously upped his determination and aggressiveness last few games I've seen him. Not sure what's inspired it, but he's gone from lacklustre to a kind of more agile Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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