S-Clarke Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 Ryan Shawcross anyone? Saw him play for Stoke on Saturday and didn’t put a foot wrong (albeit against a very weak Reading offence). Lots of PL experience, would be relatively cheap and can get a goal or two. Also far better than Hoedt. Ummm...nope. He is horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 December, 2018 Share Posted 3 December, 2018 Anyone from Leipzig worth taking , Werner obv out of our league, how about the young cb, Upamecano, always gets great reviews They are now CL regulars have ambitions at that level,and are backed financially. We've no chance of taking their key players, other than maybe a squad player who is surplus to requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Premier League interest in RB Salzburg starlet Hannes Wolf is mounting. Tottenham, Arsenal and Southampton have joined the list of clubs monitoring teenager Wolf that already included Everton. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-news-gunners-rivalling-13682633 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 As we are strapped for cash, I would be interested to see if the connections with RB Leipzig lead to any decent loans for exciting youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 We will defo go for german based players who can slot straight into our Uber-press system when our austrian overlord arrives Essentially if you have no endurance, no pace and cannot close down quickly you will be uber f*cked in this system from what I have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 We will defo go for german based players who can slot straight into our Uber-press system when our austrian overlord arrives Essentially if you have no endurance, no pace and cannot close down quickly you will be uber f*cked in this system from what I have read. Going to need to shift some deadwood before we do, I reckon. Going to be interesting to see who can adapt to the new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Going to need to shift some deadwood before we do, I reckon. Going to be interesting to see who can adapt to the new system. Will be interested to see who he identifies as can and cant make it as the system seems to be the star more than the players. He may want to see if they can recall boufal as he might suit the style of forward pressing and straight into attack mode rather than the circulation and defend style. Think Austin is done for as is Carillo. Long may survive, not sure about JWP as his chief issue seems to be physicality and playing the killer balls which is what is needed on the turnover. Think we will get maybe 2 in in Jan and try and ship our a couple, anymore could be too disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Will be interested to see who he identifies as can and cant make it as the system seems to be the star more than the players. He may want to see if they can recall boufal as he might suit the style of forward pressing and straight into attack mode rather than the circulation and defend style. Think Austin is done for as is Carillo. Long may survive, not sure about JWP as his chief issue seems to be physicality and playing the killer balls which is what is needed on the turnover. Think we will get maybe 2 in in Jan and try and ship our a couple, anymore could be too disruptive. Agreed. Although I'd wager that Long is probably one of the best suited players to it. The main thing is how quickly he can get tactical ideas across & how much extra stamina he can get into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 I'd get Cahill in short term and Moses on loan. But im sure this new chap has some players he'd want to fit his system. God some of our slobs have a shock coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Redmond, Armstrong, Moses and Ings in attack would be great actually. Suddenly a lot of pace and movement. But I feel like we need a left footer in there somewhere for balance. Are there any left sided forwards out there who score a few? Who a club is willing to sell in January?! That'll be the main problem. January signings aren't easy. Not always true. There are sometimes Carrillo sized gems available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Someone call for the Wolf? https://www.teamtalk.com/news/arsenal-to-rival-tottenham-in-race-to-sign-austrian-teen-sensation Loose link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 WOuldnt be surprised to see Austin and Gabbi moved on in Jan. Austin would be a decent signing for a championship club. and what championship club could afford austins wages?.........sorry to say hes ours until end of season then well see if he moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 People don't like Carrillo but after watching Austin I now consider Carrillo to be a pacey, mobile, determined genius. lol...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 and what championship club could afford austins wages?.........sorry to say hes ours until end of season then well see if he moves. Not entirely sure he'd even pass a medical right now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Can you seriously imagine Austin being asked to press! The only pressing he will be doing is the pressing of buttons of his phone to get a move ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 4 December, 2018 Share Posted 4 December, 2018 Even someone paying a proportion of Austin’s wages whilst on loan would be an improvement. Wonder if Bertrand or jwp may be moved on if we get offers. Jwp is barely playing whilst targett seems to me at least ready for starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Welbeck a crock but energy levels suitable for Ralph. Free in summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Welbeck would suit us. He's the player we want Long to be but isn't. Wages would be huge though and I think (rightly) we're going to give Obafemi and Gallagher more chances now. People really underestimate the difference a good coach can make in developing players when there's raw talent. Pochettinno saw it in Gallagher, I've seen him look excellent in some loan games then too often not get a chance. Time to stop loaning out young players and replacing them with expensive flops. Hope you are right and we will give them a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Spending spree imminent .................. ....................... maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I think there will be interest in Austin, either from teams like Burnley or Huddesrsfield who are desperate to stay up, or from one of the many teams at the top of the championship who are looking for someone to Tony Funnell/Billy Sharpe them over the line to promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Yeah good thing with Long and Austin is that will have interest, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Welbeck a crock but energy levels suitable for Ralph. Free in summer The Times reports today that Arsenal were happy to sell in the summer and he said no, but 'will hope we come back again'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 The Times reports today that Arsenal were happy to sell in the summer and he said no, but 'will hope we come back again'. Yeah, I remember at the time we signed Ings that reports just after deadline day were that he wanted WAY too much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Personally I think we need to move quite a lot of players in an out. Get rid of some of the deadwood - and free up some wages for some new blood. I happily swap Gabbi, Long and Austin for one striker with pace and physicality who can hold the ball up, make the runs and score goals. Sebastian Haller maybe? Or Patrick Schick on loan? Maybe Kaspar Dohlberg? I'd also like to see Bertrand and Cedric replaced with 2 full backs who actually give a sh*te - can defend and put some effort in. They have both been phoning it in for quite a while. We also need to bring in another winger/attacking midfielder with pace and a leader at the back. Pione Sisto? Cahill on loan? Or maybe Andreas Christensen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Load (loads) of work to be done to fix this club. But I feel we are making the right steps. 3-4 out in Jan and add 1-2 that fits Ralph's style and we could stay up. Could take 3-4 transfer windows to properly reverse this decline but we will get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 not sure about JWP as his chief issue seems to be physicality and playing the killer balls which is what is needed on the turnover.. JWP can run all day, his work rate and stamina are good, plus his passing is good, also believe that Ralph rates the value of good set piece takers as he believes they can make a huge difference in close games and it cost him in his 2nd season at Leipzig as his team was on the smaller side. So I can see him finding a role in the squad for JWP. We also need to remember that the sort of high intensity pressing game he plays is knackering on the players, you need rotation options, especially in midfield/wide players because they have to run around like loons most of the game. So I'd expect all our centre-mids to be here until the end of the season, it's attacking options where we look the least suited to his style, with Austin basically being broken and Gabbi for me not really fitting it, plus Long whilst on paper looks perfect, he is also terrible at football and should be nowhere near the team. Which then leaves us with Ings, Redmond, Moe, Obafemi and Gallagher, 3 of which are currently injured I believe. No way either full back is going either IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 The Times reports today that Arsenal were happy to sell in the summer and he said no, but 'will hope we come back again'. Welbeck has only recently suffered an awful ankle break (think it was a break), unless he’s willing to significantly drop his wages i’d Stay well away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 No way either full back is going either IMO. Why anyone would want rid of Bertrand is a mystery, still one of the best LB's in the league. Just needs managing correctly and not given the captains armband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Why anyone would want rid of Bertrand is a mystery, still one of the best LB's in the league. Just needs managing correctly and not given the captains armband. True. Same reason why they shouldn't have sold Tadic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry12 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 JWP can run all day, his work rate and stamina are good, plus his passing is good, also believe that Ralph rates the value of good set piece takers as he believes they can make a huge difference in close games and it cost him in his 2nd season at Leipzig as his team was on the smaller side. So I can see him finding a role in the squad for JWP. I have heard that the new manager is indeed looking for a player like Prowse who can run all day and never mark anybody ever. Highly useful attribute when defending. NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 You need to separate 'don't give a ****' from poor management. They've been way off form fine but so have most. Selling our two best and most experienced full backs would be crazy, they're both excellent players. We finally have a manager to get them back on form. We should only sell people who won't fit the system or the new manager doesn't rate. Given his knowledge of European football, I can't imagine getting rid of two respected international full backs will be a priority. And Sisto would add another winger who doesn't score goals. I've seen him kept out the side by Boufal this season. I can see Boufal coming back. He didn't get on with Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I can see Boufal coming back. He didn't get on with Hughes. Not sure Boufal will warm to the work ethic that Hasenhuttl is reported to demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Not sure Boufal will warm to the work ethic that Hasenhuttl is reported to demand. It's a myth he was lazy. When I watched him he often tracked back and tried to tackle. It's abit like the Tadic thing with Saints fans. Don't understand that mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Why anyone would want rid of Bertrand is a mystery, still one of the best LB's in the league. Just needs managing correctly and not given the captains armband. Personally given we’ve a very good player in targett I wouldn’t be averse to Bertrand leaving if there was a very good offer on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 I can see Boufal coming back. He didn't get on with Hughes. Doubt he would get on with someone demanding a higher workrate, dont think Germans or Austrians go in for show ponies. Try the Latin countries, not us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Ademola Lookman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Doubt he would get on with someone demanding a higher workrate, dont think Germans or Austrians go in for show ponies. Try the Latin countries, not us Myth, he does work hard. Just usual thick English football fans don’t see it . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Ademola Lookman. Can he defend? [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Doubt he would get on with someone demanding a higher workrate, dont think Germans or Austrians go in for show ponies. Try the Latin countries, not us The 1970s called, they want their sweeping generalisations back. Out of interest who has the better work rate; Marko Arnautovic or Luis Suarez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 The 1970s called, they want their sweeping generalisations back. Out of interest who has the better work rate; Marko Arnautovic or Luis Suarez? Miroslav Klose has such a higher work rate than Arturo Vidal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Myth, he does work hard. Just usual thick English football fans don’t see it . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk His work ethic wasn’t the issue for me it was trying to do too much and be too clever with the ball and then being dispossessed. Wasting decent possession by trying to be world beater, rather than keeping it simple when obvious easier options were on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 His work ethic wasn’t the issue for me it was trying to do too much and be too clever with the ball and then being dispossessed. Wasting decent possession by trying to be world beater, rather than keeping it simple when obvious easier options were on. That comes with the correct coaching, and not what Hughes did. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 That comes with the correct coaching, and not what Hughes did. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If he’s willing to learn then yes. The question is, is he - and is he capable of changing to become a team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 5 December, 2018 Share Posted 5 December, 2018 Squad is poor, not sure where this myth comes from that this group of players is decent or even average. I believe a decent manager can get a little more out of the current lot, but not much more. So much deadwood, much more should have been done during the summer! We must wheel & deal a little in January to save our season and get in 3-4 players minimum- CB, CF, RB, WINGER in order of urgency. Wholesale changes needed in the summer. Everyone up for sale in my eyes, however need to get rid of the SELL & consider selling the FENCE is how I see it. Good luck Ralph, gonna need it! Keepers summary: Sound MCCARTHY- Keep GUNN- Keep & challenge FORSTER- Sell/loan if ANY takers What we need: n/a Fullbacks summary: Unchallenged CEDRIC- Sell VALERY- Keep & challenge BERTRAND- Keep if he wants to be here, sell if his hearts not in it TARGETT- Fence What we need: A right back that can defend. Sell Cedric & buy Clyne. Even if regressed, instant upgrade Centre halfs summary: Car crash STEPHENS- Keep & challenge BEDNAREK- Fence YOSHIDA- Fence HOEDT- Sell VESTERGAARD- Sell, been here 2 minutes but PL is just too quick for him What we need: A stop gap at with leadership skills at worst (Cahill), at best an intermediate raw VVD style player would be the attributes required. Central Midfield summary: Inconsistent ARMSTRONG- Keep LEMINA- Keep HOJBERG- Keep ROMEU- Fence JWP- Fence REED- Fence, consider recall if option DAVIS- Free, thanks for the great service What we need: Ok in this area, not priority unless a gem was available to displace a starter. Wingers summary: No end product REDMOND- Fence SIMS- Keep, recall ELYOUNOUSSI- Fence, What we need: Desperate for a pacey winger with even a little end product. Forwards summary: Chronically goal shy INGS- Keep OBAFEMI- Keep GALLAGHER- Fence GABBI- Fence LONG- Sell AUSTIN- Sell What we need: Desperate for a strong, mobile & dynamic centre forward that can challenge double figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-send-official-e20m-attacker-28-goals-30-league-games/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 Squad is poor, not sure where this myth comes from that this group of players is decent or even average. I believe a decent manager can get a little more out of the current lot, but not much more. So much deadwood, much more should have been done during the summer! We must wheel & deal a little in January to save our season and get in 3-4 players minimum- CB, CF, RB, WINGER in order of urgency. Wholesale changes needed in the summer. Everyone up for sale in my eyes, however need to get rid of the SELL & consider selling the FENCE is how I see it. Good luck Ralph, gonna need it! Keepers summary: Sound MCCARTHY- Keep GUNN- Keep & challenge FORSTER- Sell/loan if ANY takers What we need: n/a Fullbacks summary: Unchallenged CEDRIC- Sell VALERY- Keep & challenge BERTRAND- Keep if he wants to be here, sell if his hearts not in it TARGETT- Fence What we need: A right back that can defend. Sell Cedric & buy Clyne. Even if regressed, instant upgrade Centre halfs summary: Car crash STEPHENS- Keep & challenge BEDNAREK- Fence YOSHIDA- Fence HOEDT- Sell VESTERGAARD- Sell, been here 2 minutes but PL is just too quick for him What we need: A stop gap at with leadership skills at worst (Cahill), at best an intermediate raw VVD style player would be the attributes required. Central Midfield summary: Inconsistent ARMSTRONG- Keep LEMINA- Keep HOJBERG- Keep ROMEU- Fence JWP- Fence REED- Fence, consider recall if option DAVIS- Free, thanks for the great service What we need: Ok in this area, not priority unless a gem was available to displace a starter. Wingers summary: No end product REDMOND- Fence SIMS- Keep, recall ELYOUNOUSSI- Fence, What we need: Desperate for a pacey winger with even a little end product. Forwards summary: Chronically goal shy INGS- Keep OBAFEMI- Keep GALLAGHER- Fence GABBI- Fence LONG- Sell AUSTIN- Sell What we need: Desperate for a strong, mobile & dynamic centre forward that can challenge double figures I pretty much agree with this largely decent summary, however there are a couple minor factors missed...(a) what difference can RH make on some of our current players (including loanees) and (b) there are some players that don't have what it takes regardless of the managers ideas because basically they are not able to improve more in fitness or skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 6 December, 2018 Share Posted 6 December, 2018 This is weird when you've not yet seen any of these players under Hassenhuttl. I don't think it's weird at all. We know the in's and out's of most of these players, a decent gaffer can only improve them a small percentage. You can't polish a turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 7 December, 2018 Share Posted 7 December, 2018 Let's give RH a chance to polish them though. Who knows what he can unearth. He will be using this month to assess the squad and then bring in and move out during January. Exciting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 7 December, 2018 Share Posted 7 December, 2018 I see potentially a big improvement in terms of goals from Redmond and also JWP if he plays the second space in the 4-2-2-2 formation. I'd actually bring back Boufal as well.......... Central defense is my worry. Cahill as a short term option isn't the worst shout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 7 December, 2018 Share Posted 7 December, 2018 Get Cahill and Shawcross in to get us through to the summer Clyne back on loan would be a step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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