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bpsaint

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Fed up with Saints making me feel like this - ****ing useless bunch of ****s. As for JWP, well, he’s dog**** - should be nowhere near a premier league side, wouldn’t get in any other side but we’re lumbered with the “dead ball specialist” as no other ****er wants him.

 

Hughes made all the wrong changes AGAIN.

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st alex

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Very soft penalty, contact looked minimal. Thought their first goal had shades of offside about it but would need to see it again.

 

To state the obvious but we need to attack better and defend better, final ball needs to be better, Redmond was guilty of shooting when he should have pulled it back. We need to concentrate at the back and mark better.

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Is it a tactic of ours to sit back and defend extremely deep? We did it under Puel so maybe the limitations of our squad force managers' hands?

 

It is bloody painful to watch us retreat into our own box and invite pressure from and concede space to our opponents.

 

We almost conceded a couple of occasions prior to the penalty, but no tactical change or leadership on the pitch to push out and press eventually cost us!

 

It seems like a conscious tactical decision from MH to sit back and defend deep. Very troubling if so.

 

A draw a fair result tonight I feel. What an awful game of football at times! Laughable, it was like pinball!

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Great first half, really very good. Good play, players up for it, first to most balls and recovering the few mistakes they made.

 

Obviously a disgustingly bad half time team talk and they come out looking like the team we've been suffering for the last year or so. Dreadful, no guts, no fight, second to most balls, more mistakes and that was then backed up my dreadful substitutions. I'm not anti-Hughes, but that wasn't good from half time to the end of the match.

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At home on a Monday night, the omens were not good, and in the second half nor were our team. How the f*** can we be bossed on our own turf by bl00dy BHA ? MH seems to have a fixed idea about his preferred team, but is too easily outthought by the opposing manager as the game progresses. We also seem to lack any form of leadership on the pitch once the oppos up their game.

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Sheaf Saint

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I’d like to thank Wesley Hoedt for being the worst centre back I’ve had the pleasure of watching for 90 minutes.

 

 

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Why have you singled him out especially? I don't think he was particularly bad tonight, it was a poor team effort overall that led to the result. Hoedt may not be top class but I don't remember him doing anything so wrong that it stood out against the rest, and I have seen far worse players at CB for us over the years.

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Can you honestly say and believe that it was ‘never a pen’.

 

One of the most stupid fouls in the box you will see, just shoved him to the ground in front of the ref, when he’d be looking to even things up.

 

He touched his back. So I suppose in today's game yes it's a clear penalty. "There's clear contact there" as the modern commentators like to say. Thanks SKD, for being as bad as those pundits who are ruining our game.

 

Contact = foul, honestly ffs

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And its nothing to do with subs, the players on the pitch should be able to deal with two hopeful balls into the box
I absolutely agree. It's so easy to blame it all on substitutions. The players on the pitch need to show the bottle and composure to see games like that out. It was just typical of our team to concede such a soft goal seconds after going 2 up. Centre backs and keeper should be commanding their area in that situation. And from that moment on we continued to show little or no composure on the ball.

 

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He touched his back. So I suppose in today's game yes it's a clear penalty. "There's clear contact there" as the modern commentators like to say. Thanks SKD, for being as bad as those pundits who are ruining our game.

 

Contact = foul, honestly ffs

 

Shove in the back as he is about to jump = Foul.

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BotleySaint

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Finding it hard to enjoy watching Saints these days. You'd like to celebrate the goals and feel perhaps we'll win. But can never shake the feeling that it won't last and when they got the first one back you almost expected Brighton to go on and win.

 

No point getting hopes up. Sad really but I'm just weary of it..

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Can you honestly say and believe that it was ‘never a pen’.

 

One of the most stupid fouls in the box you will see, just shoved him to the ground in front of the ref, when he’d be looking to even things up.

 

'shoved him to the ground' = touched his back

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stknowle

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Fed up with Saints making me feel like this - ****ing useless bunch of ****s. As for JWP, well, he’s dog**** - should be nowhere near a premier league side, wouldn’t get in any other side but we’re lumbered with the “dead ball specialist” as no other ****er wants him.

 

Hughes made all the wrong changes AGAIN.

 

Was worried enough when JWP came on, even more so when Davis joined him. These aren't the sort of players to galvanise the midfield of a team finding themselves under pressure are they? They didn't even let "dead ball expert" Prowse take the freekick in a dangerous position. If he isn't even trusted to do the thing he is supposed to be good at, WTF is he on the pitch for?

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He touched his back. So I suppose in today's game yes it's a clear penalty. "There's clear contact there" as the modern commentators like to say. Thanks SKD, for being as bad as those pundits who are ruining our game.

 

Contact = foul, honestly ffs

 

Of course it was a penalty..... He lost his man. He panicked when it looked like he could get to the ball. Pushed him with two hands and then shoved him with his elbow. He made zero attempt to play the ball.

It sucks that it happened and we threw it away but it was a penalty. It was soft, looked soft, but if a player uses his hands/arms to throw a player without going for the ball what can the ref do exactly?

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Why have you singled him out especially? I don't think he was particularly bad tonight, it was a poor team effort overall that led to the result. Hoedt may not be top class but I don't remember him doing anything so wrong that it stood out against the rest, and I have seen far worse players at CB for us over the years.

 

Ok I’ll start.

 

Every time the had the ball his passes were always inches from opposing striker and more luck than judgement got them there. He didn’t win a header vs Murray all game. He swung his leg like a rusty gate every clearance. He is a very poor defender.

 

Don’t get me wrong a lot of odd performances tonight, first half we were excellent. Cedric was terrible also. Lemina should’ve come off 70 mins.

 

Terrible second half. End.

 

 

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Pamplemousse

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You take a striker off in these situations and it just invites them onto you. He’s done it before and not learnt. Pathetic and very worrying from the manager. Why can’t he see it?

 

 

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He should've taken him off before then, we were 2-0 up, we didn't need 4-4-2. We were getting overrun in midfield.

 

However, Romeu should've been on the bench because he's our best "enforcer".

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austsaint

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Clear penalty for me, called it as soon as I saw it

JWP. Every season we're talking about whether he might just be finally good enough to pin down a regular place. Offers nothing other than half-decent form on a set-piece. Way out of his depth and has been for years. Has cost us 2 points tonight and I would not be upset if he never played for Saints again

 

But you will see him again - that was his 78th sub appearance; is it 7 seasons now? Why was someone like Romeu not on the bench to shore up things instead of Ward-Prowse? Long also has to be left out of the side - the platitudes of Long's hard work and Ward-Prowse's dead ball deliveries are wearing very thin. Brighton upped their game but Saint's familiar deep retreat just invited the pressure and the predictable result. Well played Hojbjerg, and good first half performances from Lemina and Redmond.

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Lighthouse

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Ok I’ll start.

 

Every time the had the ball his passes were always inches from opposing striker and more luck than judgement got them there. He didn’t win a header vs Murray all game. He swung his leg like a rusty gate every clearance. He is a very poor defender.

 

Don’t get me wrong a lot of odd performances tonight, first half we were excellent. Cedric was terrible also. Lemina should’ve come off 70 mins.

 

Terrible second half. End.

 

 

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I thought Hoedt had a good game, likewise Vest. It was silly mistakes from set pieces by Long and JWP which lead to the goals, nothing to do with Hoedt.

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He should've taken him off before then, we were 2-0 up, we didn't need 4-4-2. We were getting overrun in midfield.

 

However, Romeu should've been on the bench because he's our best "enforcer".

 

Agree on Romeu but Hoj and Lemina were knackered and anyway attack is best form of defence. That’s the one thing Long offers

 

 

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Why do we sit back, defend deep and invite pressure on ourselves? First goal was a combined fault of Vestergaard playing them onside and McCarthy failing to come out to make it difficult. The second goal was the result of the ridiculous decision to ask Ward-Prowse to mark Duffy - total mismatch. I would have much preferred to have seen Maya come on instead of Davis as it was obvious we would have to withstand a late onslaught. Our failure to win home matches - particularly against sides likely to struggle - will see us in another relegation fight I am afraid.

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shurlock

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You take a striker off in these situations and it just invites them onto you. He’s done it before and not learnt. Pathetic and very worrying from the manager. Why can’t he see it?

 

 

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We had invited them onto us before the subs - if anything, our pen came at a fortunate time. For all our control in the first half, it was very huff and puff. Thus it didn’t surprise me that the intensity levels dropped off and they got more and more time on the ball.

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