Jez Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 Going through our transfer history I make our squad costing £212million give or take a couple, including all players at the club or out on loan. And yet this whole thread is based on Heisenberg saying it is c£300m, with no workings or proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 And yet this whole thread is based on all those biting on Heisenberg's clickbait Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 3 September, 2018 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2018 All figures taken from https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk PEH 13.5 Gabbi 15.3 Boufal 17 Bednarek 5.5 Hoedt 15 Lemina 15.5 Carillo 20 Armstrong 7.2 Gunn 10.2 Elyounoussi 16.2 Vestergaard 22.5 Stephen's. 0.2 Davis 1 Ings 20 Yoshida 2.5 Redmond 12.2 McCarthy 4.5 Classie 13.5 Romeu 6.3 Soares 6.3 Austin 5 Long 13.5 Bertrand 12 FF 11.5 Total is £266m Not included the market value of JWP, Gallagher, Reed, Targett, Sims, McQueen ect ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 (edited) All figures taken from https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk PEH 13.5 Gabbi 15.3 Boufal 17 Bednarek 5.5 Hoedt 15 Lemina 15.5 Carillo 20 Armstrong 7.2 Gunn 10.2 Elyounoussi 16.2 Vestergaard 22.5 Stephen's. 0.2 Davis 1 Ings 20 Yoshida 2.5 Redmond 12.2 McCarthy 4.5 Classie 13.5 Romeu 6.3 Soares 6.3 Austin 5 Long 13.5 Bertrand 12 FF 11.5 Total is £266m Not included the market value of JWP, Gallagher, Reed, Targett, Sims, McQueen ect ect Davis was £750K Clasie was £8M Long was £12M Carrillo £19.2M Boufal £15M Not doing too bad considering £50M of your list aren't even at the club... Boufal £17M Carrillo £20M Clasie £13.5M Edited 3 September, 2018 by Saint Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 All figures taken from https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk Can you remind me how much we got from Liverpool for Mane please? I've forgotten but I know it's a figure you always have to hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 Can you remind me how much we got from Liverpool for Mane please? I've forgotten but I know it's a figure you always have to hand. not enough,that is for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 3 September, 2018 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2018 not enough,that is for sure Seems we got a combined £100m for Mane and VVD. If Liverpool tried to sell both now I doubt they'd get much more than £300m Who could have ever predicted the market movement though right.... We reinvested our £100m in Carillo (20) Boufal (17) Ings (20) Hoedt (15) Big V (22) + paid off some of Corteses huge debts, so safe to say we've had the last laugh Liverpool won 2-0 at palace, same as us. Liverpool won 1-0 against Brighton, same as us.. So they've given us millions and we are still just as good as them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 And yet this whole thread is based on Heisenberg saying it is c£300m, with no workings or proof. Heisenberg is a complete t osser. Just ignore what he says. He is the first to post on a thread when we lose ( see the Everton post match thread) yet is never to be found when we win. See the Palace post match thread. This forum has no trolls according to the mods but he and other trolls // Pompey fans are killing it. Put him on ignore, dont post on the threads that he starts (they are always negative - havent you noticed)and forget about renewing your subscription until he and other trolls are removed from this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 3 September, 2018 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2018 ^ if I lived in a dark room and someone kept turning on the lights and opening the curtains I'd be annoyed too. Truth hurts sometimes mate. Enjoy the good times but don't be scared to challenge things. Being passionate and questioning things doesn't make you a bad fan, probably just means you care. Always negative? https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57823-****-POSITIVES-**** Be careful mate, I know you don't post a lot but seems when you do its about me. Don't want anyone to think you're obsessed with Big H. Heisenberg Heisenberg is a complete t osser. Heisenberg Heisenberg Heisenberg Heisenberg You're not obsessed are you mate? Are you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 3 September, 2018 Share Posted 3 September, 2018 https://www.seemallorca.com/golf/ Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 4 September, 2018 Share Posted 4 September, 2018 Heisenberg is a complete t osser. Just ignore what he says. He is the first to post on a thread when we lose ( see the Everton post match thread) yet is never to be found when we win. See the Palace post match thread. This forum has no trolls according to the mods but he and other trolls // Pompey fans are killing it. Put him on ignore, dont post on the threads that he starts (they are always negative - havent you noticed)and forget about renewing your subscription until he and other trolls are removed from this site. Yup, I know - all true. He isn't alone which is the sad thing. We were 3 pages in which is why I was calling him out on his stats. He done a poor job of justifying them anywhere £300m (inflated by a 1/3?) by including Boufal, Carillo etc - shame someone didn't ask for his workings on day one so then I didn't have to waste my time on this thread Never put anyone on ignore before - perhaps I should try it, though I always think I'll just see half of all conversations (1/4 in this place?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 6 September, 2018 Share Posted 6 September, 2018 All figures taken from https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk PEH 13.5 Gabbi 15.3 Boufal 17 Bednarek 5.5 Hoedt 15 Lemina 15.5 Carillo 20 Armstrong 7.2 Gunn 10.2 Elyounoussi 16.2 Vestergaard 22.5 Stephen's. 0.2 Davis 1 Ings 20 Yoshida 2.5 Redmond 12.2 McCarthy 4.5 Classie 13.5 Romeu 6.3 Soares 6.3 Austin 5 Long 13.5 Bertrand 12 FF 11.5 Total is £266m Not included the market value of JWP, Gallagher, Reed, Targett, Sims, McQueen ect ect OK, now also prove your original assertion that "our wage bill is c£100 million a year". And prove "One of the most expensive squads in Europe", you can start with comparison with every other Premier League club. After all that, maybe we can actually have a debate about the facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 6 September, 2018 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2018 OK, now also prove your original assertion that "our wage bill is c£100 million a year". And prove "One of the most expensive squads in Europe", you can start with comparison with every other Premier League club. After all that, maybe we can actually have a debate about the facts Can I introduce you to http://www.google.com it's a hidden gem and allows you to search for ANYTHING You can use it to search for Southampton fc latest accounts and allows you to search for things like "most expensive football squads" can also add cheeky words like "comparisons & all teams" mix it up, play with it... Have some fun with it. Trust me it's brilliant - Happy hunting As for "maybe we can actually have a debate about the facts" I've taken a quick peak at your forum contributions to date and it's clear what type of poster you are..... Another poster that posts (almost exclusively) about other posters and doesn't seem to have much opinion, passion or knowledge of football or saints. So happy to pass on the "debate" that you "maybe" able to offer For those who want to believe, no proof is ever required. For those who refuse to believe, no proof is ever enough. Enjoy Google and spread the word OK. Knowledge is power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 6 September, 2018 Share Posted 6 September, 2018 Can I introduce you to http://www.google.com it's a hidden gem and allows you to search for ANYTHING You can use it to search for Southampton fc latest accounts and allows you to search for things like "most expensive football squads" can also add cheeky words like "comparisons & all teams" mix it up, play with it... Have some fun with it. Trust me it's brilliant - Happy hunting As for "maybe we can actually have a debate about the facts" I've taken a quick peak at your forum contributions to date and it's clear what type of poster you are..... Another poster that posts (almost exclusively) about other posters and doesn't seem to have much opinion, passion or knowledge of football or saints. So happy to pass on the "debate" that you "maybe" able to offer For those who want to believe, no proof is ever required. For those who refuse to believe, no proof is ever enough. Enjoy Google and spread the word OK. Knowledge is power Which is a long winded way of saying you can't/wont back up your assertions. This is a pointless thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 September, 2018 Author Share Posted 30 September, 2018 £4£ must be the most underperforming squad in premier league history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 1 October, 2018 Share Posted 1 October, 2018 Worrying thing is apart from McCarthy, who I understood cost around £1m (not £4.5m) when purchased from Palace as back up to Forster, the rest of the squad have probably seen their 'value' reduce since signing for Saints. some quite significantly. And this against a general increase in the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 1 October, 2018 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2018 Worrying thing is apart from McCarthy, who I understood cost around £1m (not £4.5m) when purchased from Palace as back up to Forster, the rest of the squad have probably seen their 'value' reduce since signing for Saints. some quite significantly. And this against a general increase in the transfer market. We are meticulous in our player research with dozens of options tracked for each position. Every detail is researched before a player signs to ensure they fit the club and the league. We are pioneers and other clubs follow our lead. Think that was the last time Les Reed spoke publically (c2016 lol) on a serious note: Where player value drops (Carillo, Boufal, Classie ect ect ect ect) we loan them out allowing them to showcase the class. Just remember form is temporary, class is permanent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 October, 2018 Author Share Posted 27 October, 2018 I'd get Boufal n Carrillo back in January. Get the goals flowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 October, 2018 Share Posted 27 October, 2018 so, Boufal Carrillo Vestergaard Armstrong Gunn All out of the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 27 October, 2018 Share Posted 27 October, 2018 so, Boufal Carrillo Vestergaard Armstrong Gunn All out of the side Ross Wilson is to recruitment what Shane Long is to goalscoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 27 October, 2018 Share Posted 27 October, 2018 Mcarthy is the only player to improve as he gets the most practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 27 October, 2018 Share Posted 27 October, 2018 Ross Wilson is to recruitment what Shane Long is to goalscoring. We are no longer a club playing attractive good football that up and coming young stars will come to cheaply to make a name for themselves and we wont pay for established quality What is Wilson supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 27 October, 2018 Share Posted 27 October, 2018 Worrying thing is apart from McCarthy, who I understood cost around £1m (not £4.5m) when purchased from Palace as back up to Forster, the rest of the squad have probably seen their 'value' reduce since signing for Saints. some quite significantly. And this against a general increase in the transfer market. This is no surprise! It is bound to be the case if you sell all whose value increases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 27 October, 2018 Share Posted 27 October, 2018 Pointless Arguments whether we are 300m 200m 100m or less squad we are still crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 27 October, 2018 Share Posted 27 October, 2018 so, Boufal Carrillo Vestergaard Armstrong Gunn All out of the side It’s pretty damning, isn’t it. Too many average players replacing excellent players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 October, 2018 Author Share Posted 27 October, 2018 Ross Wilson is to recruitment what Shane Long is to goalscoring. Who appointed Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 9 December, 2018 Author Share Posted 9 December, 2018 Apparently cardiffs squad has cost around just 15% of ours... c£45m Mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 Apparently cardiffs squad has cost around just 15% of ours... c£45m Mental They still beat us on net spend by a huge margin. Net spend last 5 years: Man City £510m Man Utd £418m Chelsea £243m Arsenal £222m Everton £205m Liverpool £174m West Ham £146m Leicester £142m Brighton £132m Palace £130m Bournemouth £112m Wolves £97m Fulham £81m Watford £81m Newcastle £71m Huddersfield £65m Burnley £58m Spurs £43m Cardiff £19m Saints -£35m https://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons It's surprising we managed to stay up last year given all the other clubs are spending much more while we cheap out on signing reserve players, having inexperienced goalkeepers as 1st team coaches etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 15 December, 2018 Share Posted 15 December, 2018 They still beat us on net spend by a huge margin. Net spend last 5 years: Man City £510m Man Utd £418m Chelsea £243m Arsenal £222m Everton £205m Liverpool £174m West Ham £146m Leicester £142m Brighton £132m Palace £130m Bournemouth £112m Wolves £97m Fulham £81m Watford £81m Newcastle £71m Huddersfield £65m Burnley £58m Spurs £43m Cardiff £19m Saints -£35m https://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons It's surprising we managed to stay up last year given all the other clubs are spending much more while we cheap out on signing reserve players, having inexperienced goalkeepers as 1st team coaches etc. This is pointless. If you go by the table; Man City - where they should be Man Utd - under performing (no shock under Mourinho) Everton - under performing (no shock although loads seem to think Silva is some sort of god) Liverpool - OVER performing! Spurs - massively over performing The rest, where they should be bar Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 16 December, 2018 Share Posted 16 December, 2018 This is pointless. If you go by the table; Man City - where they should be Man Utd - under performing (no shock under Mourinho) Everton - under performing (no shock although loads seem to think Silva is some sort of god) Liverpool - OVER performing! Spurs - massively over performing The rest, where they should be bar Fulham.I wouldn't call it pointless. It's a representation of how willing owners are to spend. Everyone knows Levy is tight with money. We're in another world with our owners. They sold the story of us being the best run club by being sustainable but we are where we are because of our unwillingness to reinvest. Sadly the drop is inevitable. You can't keep up in this league by standing still. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 16 December, 2018 Share Posted 16 December, 2018 (edited) This is pointless. If you go by the table; Man City - where they should be Man Utd - under performing (no shock under Mourinho) Everton - under performing (no shock although loads seem to think Silva is some sort of god) Liverpool - OVER performing! Spurs - massively over performing The rest, where they should be bar Fulham. Yep, agreed. As you mention, 4 or 5 clubs are in false positions but the rest aren't a million miles from their net spend positions. In fact, if you take spurs out of the bottom 6, I'd be surprised if the remaining 5 clubs plus Fulham aren't the bottom 6 at the end of the season. Edited 16 December, 2018 by egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 16 December, 2018 Share Posted 16 December, 2018 They still beat us on net spend by a huge margin. Net spend last 5 years: Man City £510m Man Utd £418m Chelsea £243m Arsenal £222m Everton £205m Liverpool £174m West Ham £146m Leicester £142m Brighton £132m Palace £130m Bournemouth £112m Wolves £97m Fulham £81m Watford £81m Newcastle £71m Huddersfield £65m Burnley £58m Spurs £43m Cardiff £19m Saints -£35m https://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons It's surprising we managed to stay up last year given all the other clubs are spending much more while we cheap out on signing reserve players, having inexperienced goalkeepers as 1st team coaches etc. Just weird how we appear to be the only club in this league that has to sell to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 December, 2018 Share Posted 16 December, 2018 Just weird how we appear to be the only club in this league that has to sell to buy. well we do now the squad is bloated with crap players the squad limit is maxed out without even including the ones on loan or just side lined we really need to get rid of some quantity and bring in some quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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