OldNick Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 After watching Stoke fans h jeering Darren Fletcher it made me recall Jason Euell and Ricardo Fuller, they felt the brunt of our frustration of the clubs malaise. personally I thought it was shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Fuller was a **** tbf and Euell was constantly played out of position. He wasn't too bad when he played up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 After watching Stoke fans h jeering Darren Fletcher it made me recall Jason Euell and Ricardo Fuller, they felt the brunt of our frustration of the clubs malaise. personally I thought it was shameful Thank you for bearing the Cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Jermaine Wright got a load of grief too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 How about donkey dowie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Didn't Euell defer his wages? (along with Kelvin) back in the dark days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Luckily for them, Gary Rowett will turn it around. He's definitely a footballing genius and not just flavour of the month that our resident forum experts latched on to during the summer. Let's see if those forum experts drooling about how wonderful he was over the summer are still sticking to that in a few months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Luckily for them, Gary Rowett will turn it around. He's definitely a footballing genius and not just flavour of the month that our resident forum experts latched on to during the summer. Let's see if those forum experts drooling about how wonderful he was over the summer are still sticking to that in a few months time. Rowett seemed to gain a lot of credit due to being sacked at Birmingham by their foreign owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Rowett seemed to gain a lot of credit due to being sacked at Birmingham by their foreign owners. In fairness, he did a decent job at Birmingham and at Burton Albion prior to that. Has struggled since though, and with much more resources than his first appointments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 I remember Franny Benali used to get dogs abuse week in week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 I still feel ashamed how these were treated by the fans Why do you feel ashamed about the actions of people you have no responsibility for? They just happen to have picked to support the same bunch of 11 men kicking a ball around a field. They don't represent you... you represent you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 I remember Franny Benali used to get dogs abuse week in week out. Ewell got quite a bit of racial abuse iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 August, 2018 Author Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Why do you feel ashamed about the actions of people you have no responsibility for? They just happen to have picked to support the same bunch of 11 men kicking a ball around a field. They don't represent you... you represent you.Im ashamed as they are part of our club that I follow. The same way as if they sung racist songs am I supposed to say it doesn't matter as it wasn't me???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Stoke are having a serious hangover for sure. But I'd have thought more frustrations should be aimed at that Saido fella surely? He is a striker, they spent £16m on him on an investment in their forward line, and he hasn't scored since 2016 FFS (and that was for WBA). That makes long look like a worldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Why do you feel ashamed about the actions of people you have no responsibility for? They just happen to have picked to support the same bunch of 11 men kicking a ball around a field. They don't represent you... you represent you. Im ashamed as they are part of our club that I follow. The same way as if they sung racist songs am I supposed to say it doesn't matter as it wasn't me???? I didn't say these things don't matter or that your example of racist songs wouldn't matter. I was talking about the issue of being ashamed. If you are not responsible for the actions of the individuals doing these things and it isn't you doing them then why would you be ashamed? They do not represent you... you represent you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 I didn't say these things don't matter or that your example of racist songs wouldn't matter. I was talking about the issue of being ashamed. If you are not responsible for the actions of the individuals doing these things and it isn't you doing them then why would you be ashamed? They do not represent you... you represent you. Its called social awareness. Something sadly lacking in many parts of our society these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 After watching Stoke fans h jeering Darren Fletcher it made me recall Jason Euell and Ricardo Fuller, they felt the brunt of our frustration of the clubs malaise. personally I thought it was shameful Which Saints player never got abuse from fans? Terry Paine maybe John Sydenham question mark not many after that. It's gotten worse in these days of anonymous social media. None of it is meant seriously so hardly worth you getting depressed and in a lather about it. They get paid enough! Let's not forget what real abuse is, nurses get real abuse which they never deserve and for which they get paid a pittance by a government that couldn't give a toss about the working class or welfare institutions like the NHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Which Saints player never got abuse from fans? Terry Paine maybe John Sydenham question mark not many after that. It's gotten worse in these days of anonymous social media. None of it is meant seriously so hardly worth you getting depressed and in a lather about it. They get paid enough! Let's not forget what real abuse is, nurses get real abuse which they never deserve and for which they get paid a pittance by a government that couldn't give a toss about the working class or welfare institutions like the NHS Abuse is abuse. Throwing bananas on the pitch is just as abusive to black players no matter what they earn compared to nurses. Money doesn’t mitigate the amount of distress felt by those being abused. No one deserves abuse for doing their job be they working class or any other social class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 I am another who feels ashamed of the 'support'. The way Mane was treated still angers me and Wanyama had hate 'fans' as well. Is it racism, or are they from down the road? Criticism is one thing, but this hostility to our own players embarrasses me, it is not what i call support. At present JWP, Bertrand and Redman seem to get the treatment. What good does that do any of them? And then after we have destroyed them we call them disloyal for leaving. Worst case was the abuse poured on NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 (edited) Its called social awareness. Something sadly lacking in many parts of our society these days. What definition of "social awareness" are you using where being ashamed of the actions of people you have no responsibility for fits? Being socially aware is not the same as being ashamed of actions you are not responsible for. Edited 23 August, 2018 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 What definition of social awareness are you using where being ashamed of the actions of people you have no responsibility for fits? FFS mate give it a rest, be a pedant as much as you like on facts but the guy is just expressing his feelings. I think some of the stick you get on here is unwarranted but sometimes you don't half ask for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 August, 2018 Author Share Posted 23 August, 2018 What definition of "social awareness" are you using where being ashamed of the actions of people you have no responsibility for fits? Being socially aware is not the same as being ashamed of actions you are not responsible for.Its shame by association. Everytime I talk about Saints Im a fan of that club and the actions of its fanbase sticks. Hence Millwall fans are thought of thugs but thy all didn't go around beating up old ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 I am another who feels ashamed of the 'support'. The way Mane was treated still angers me and Wanyama had hate 'fans' as well. Is it racism, or are they from down the road? Criticism is one thing, but this hostility to our own players embarrasses me, it is not what i call support. At present JWP, Bertrand and Redman seem to get the treatment. What good does that do any of them? And then after we have destroyed them we call them disloyal for leaving. Worst case was the abuse poured on NC I’m hoping you’re being sarcastic and it’s gone over my head. Because if you aren’t, we may as well close voting for stupidest post of 2018. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Can we change this thread title to "the mass self flagellation thread"? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 August, 2018 Share Posted 23 August, 2018 Can we change this thread title to "the mass self flagellation thread"? Thanks. Combined with some sarcasm, straw men and pedantry from the usual suspects. I’m not sure this thread is going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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