Give it to Ron Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Always was on the radar, expect a loan out or two soon. [emoji1303] Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMcQueen to Bristol is one I think Reed, Sims? and Sam as well? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 McQueen to Bristol is one I think Reed, Sims? and Sam as well? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Ignore the fool, he’s just playing the percentages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyd Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 What is it with Les and Liverpool? They wanted £20m and no one else wanted to pay it. Does he have some interests there with the amount of business between the two clubs? £40m on a knackered Ings and appalling Carrillo - this club is in huge trouble A great signing who has been fit for a year. klopp thinks he will be great here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Underwhelmed. At best he's the same as what we have in my opinion, but at worst he has had 4 knee operations and can blow at any time. I'd have rather given Gallagher a shot. He's younger, not all banged up, and much cheaper, plus he looks good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 On paper a better option than Carillo I guess. Not sure it's going to improve us very much though. People recover from knee issues all the time. It's a matter of luck as much as anything else. Some just don't seem to have any. An AFL player here had his first game in almost six years on the weekend, after five knee reconstructions. That takes commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Ffs why are people thinking Gallagher can be PL standard when he was pony in the Championship? Ings isnt really even ‘injury prone’, 2 knee injuries and lots of bad luck. Not made of glass like Sturridge etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 So Liverpool have been asking for £20m all summer and nobody has bitten. Then on deadline day when it's basically their last chance to offload him, WE cave in and pay their full asking price. I think this is bat sh*t mental personally, on par with the whole Carrillo fiasco. Our record signing is now a man who has played 14 league games in 3 years. Give it 3 months, Long will be starting games whilst every talks about how much better we will be when Austin and Ings are fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I'm not sure any of us know the terms of the deal. A lot of conjecture...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 A great signing who has been fit for a year. klopp thinks he will be great here. I hope Ings bangs in 20 a year for us, but your statement is damning. Fit for a year, but Klopp didn't want to play him and sold him at the first opportunity, and he has only scored 3 in three seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Ffs why are people thinking Gallagher can be PL standard when he was pony in the Championship? Ings isnt really even ‘injury prone’, 2 knee injuries and lots of bad luck. Not made of glass like Sturridge etc4 knee injuries! 2 at Burnley. 2 at Liverpool. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Where does it say we have to buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I'm not sure any of us know the terms of the deal. A lot of conjecture...... No your wrong mate all the knobs on here know everything didn’t you know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Dreadful tatts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I look forward to him scoring a few goals and all these mongos praising him. Nothing changes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Well done Saints, looks like a great deal. He needs a break and where better to come than Saints? Can't see much to grumble about with this one, local lad as well. Hopefully his injuries are behind him and he can hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I look forward to him scoring a few goals and all these mongos praising him. Nothing changes you changed from Eko to Cabbage face last month?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyd Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Underwhelmed. At best he's the same as what we have in my opinion, but at worst he has had 4 knee operations and can blow at any time. I'd have rather given Gallagher a shot. He's younger, not all banged up, and much cheaper, plus he looks good to me. Gallagher is not up to it. The club clearly don’t rate him. He was not prolific on loan was he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 No your wrong mate all the knobs on here know everything didn’t you know that Exactly. Of all the signings we have made over the years, this is one that I would like to know the terms probably more than any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 No one can say the club isn't funny . Agreeing to pay 20 million pounds for a player who has had 4 long term injuries, and scored 3 times in 3 seasons. Oh, and Liverpool only paid £6.5 million for (Ings didn't make enough appearances to trigger the further 1.5 million bonus payment, shockingly.) Our glorious leadership think the above adds up to an increase of 14 million pounds in his value. I wonder if our negotiating team pulls their pants down before meeting with the opposition, or figures it's more fun to let them do it. Someone needs some closure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I hope Ings bangs in 20 a year for us, but your statement is damning. Fit for a year, but Klopp didn't want to play him and sold him at the first opportunity, and he has only scored 3 in three seasons. And his competition at lfc are? Welcome aboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Underwhelmed. At best he's the same as what we have in my opinion, but at worst he has had 4 knee operations and can blow at any time. I'd have rather given Gallagher a shot. He's younger, not all banged up, and much cheaper, plus he looks good to me. This is my concern, along with his injury record of course. As I see it we now have two strikers, Ings & Gabbiadini who are a bit lightweight, both might prosper alongside a Pelle type but not on their own or played together. I'd like to see either paired with Gallagher who offers a bit more height, power and pace. Then there is Austin, again injury prone, but fairly immobile. Ffs why are people thinking Gallagher can be PL standard when he was pony in the Championship? Ings isnt really even ‘injury prone’, 2 knee injuries and lots of bad luck. Not made of glass like Sturridge etc He might offer something different, and many would like to see him given the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 View from a Liverpool supporting friend... "You've got a good deal there if the way he played for us last year when he came back was anything to go by. We didn't want to sell him, he wanted to leave, which is a shame but he's better than warming the bench. Puts a shift in and is a nightmare for defenders. He doesn't give them a moment's peace. I hope he rebuilds his career and scores a bagful for you. He's had the worst luck with serious injuries possible. The commitment he's shown to comeback to the standard he has has to be a good sign. Plus, he's a local lad so his motivation will be sky high anyway. If only Sturridge had his guts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I hope Ings bangs in 20 a year for us, but your statement is damning. Fit for a year, but Klopp didn't want to play him and sold him at the first opportunity, and he has only scored 3 in three seasons. To be fair he would have had to be going some to displace Salah, Mane and Firmino. Speaking to my Liverpool supporting mates they all rate him. Very unlucky with injuries but has been fit for a good few months. Good lad to have in the changing Room and as a local boy (and apparently a Saints fan) you would hope that he is going to give that little bit extra. Early suggestion for song for him: If you wanna come back, it’s alright, it’s alright It’s alright if you wanna come back Danny; Ings wants to come back, it’s alright, it’s alright It’s alright if you wanna come back Danny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 And his competition at lfc are? Welcome aboard Exactly and he did get some game time last year in what is a squad with fantastic attacking options. Plums also equating previous transfer fees are just desperately thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Liverpool lost in the Champions League final, we escaped from relegation last season. I'm perfectly happy to accept he is exactly the level of player we need right now. And for what it's worth, I think he will do well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Feeling positive about this one. Welcome Danny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Well done Saints, looks like a great deal. He needs a break and where better to come than Saints? Can't see much to grumble about with this one, local lad as well. Hopefully his injuries are behind him and he can hit the ground running. Think you've gone some way to answer your own question. Coupled with an "obligation" to buy.From Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Exactly and he did get some game time last year in what is a squad with fantastic attacking options. Plums also equating previous transfer fees are just desperately thick. All par for the course on here - more like Pompey on line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Where does it say we have to buy? “Although his first year will be on loan, Southampton have committed to buy the striker on July 1, 2019. Liverpool are guaranteed £18 million, with a further £2 million based on appearances.” per Bascombe and Wilson in the Telegraph. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/09/danny-ings-completes-20m-southampton-move/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Obligation - the condition of being morally or legally bound to do something. There's a big difference between morally bound and legally bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 (edited) No, it’s an obligation to buy. We have to go through with it pal. Why bother to have a loan. Bat**** mental deal. Why the **** didn't we just loan him, see how the land lies then sign next summer. I hope he shines of course, but yet another strange deal. Edited 9 August, 2018 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 So what s the real price? 16m according to local journalists here or 18m rising to 20 based on appearances according to the Liverpool media. Who do you believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Obligation - the condition of being morally or legally bound to do something. There's a big difference between morally bound and legally bound. See post above yours. Which of these two possible outcomes do you suspect Les has allowed himself to commit to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Why bother to have a loan. Bat**** mental deal. May be we cant afford the fee this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Fit for a year, but Klopp didn't want to play him and sold him at the first opportunity, and he has only scored 3 in three seasons. Oh ffs, what a ridiculous argument. He was competing for a place with Salah, Mane, and Firmino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Obligation - the condition of being morally or legally bound to do something. There's a big difference between morally bound and legally bound. If the obligation was contractual ...... Then its legally binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Why bother to have a loan then? If there is an obligation then why not just confirm the signing? My guess is that the club’s transfer kitty ran empty after buying messrs. Vestergaard, Gunn, Armstrong and Moi. This deal is coming out of next year’s transfer kitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Just watched the interview - he seems genuinely genuinely delighted to be here and spoke really well. Hope we give him some proper backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Just watched the interview - he seems genuinely genuinely delighted to be here and spoke really well. Hope we give him some proper backing. If and when he runs out in a Saints shirt I will be wishing and hoping for goals goals goals. Until then I'll continue to be a somewhat underwhelmed by the whole premise of this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Kloop seem to rate him “It is a very strange feeling saying goodbye to Danny. The biggest emotion is how much we will miss him," he told the club's official website. “He is such an outstanding boy. Honestly, if you could bottle character and spirit, his would sell worldwide - he is so incredibly positive and full of energy. But we won’t just miss his character because he is a footballer who has all the tools. "We say farewell to a friend, but for Danny I know the best chapters in his personal story are still to be written. He is as fit now as at any point of his career I would bet and he just requires the opportunity. He has that opportunity and on behalf of his Liverpool family we say good luck Danny and we will miss you.” What a bullsh1tter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 My guess is that the club’s transfer kitty ran empty after buying messrs. Vestergaard, Gunn, Armstrong and Moi. This deal is coming out of next year’s transfer kitty. Which will just be amazing if we get relegated. Imagine, we're in the Championship with players like Forster, Carrillo and Boufal stuck on the wage bill for 3 years and to top it off we are then OBLIGATED to spend £20m on a player who could well be out for another 9 months with dodgy knees. Why agree to an obligation to buy instead of an option? What possible leverage did Liverpool have to say no? Like f**k they were going to call the deal off if we asked for an option to buy instead. If they had I'd have run a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 How strange, people seem genuinely angry about it. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 View from a Liverpool supporting friend... "You've got a good deal there if the way he played for us last year when he came back was anything to go by. We didn't want to sell him, he wanted to leave, which is a shame but he's better than warming the bench. Puts a shift in and is a nightmare for defenders. He doesn't give them a moment's peace. I hope he rebuilds his career and scores a bagful for you. He's had the worst luck with serious injuries possible. The commitment he's shown to comeback to the standard he has has to be a good sign. Plus, he's a local lad so his motivation will be sky high anyway. If only Sturridge had his guts."reads well but The cynic in me thinks if only he had Sturridges ability...but what does the cynic know. Bet Burnley are thinking he is bound to score against them. A debut goal,would be just the tonic we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Les Reed looks off the scale on the smugometer, which is remarkable after last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I would imagine the contract is a lot more complicated than is suggested on here. With his injury past, the "obligation to buy" wil almost certainly depend on him staying fit and/or the number of peformances he puts in. I suspect the loan-buy structure is probably to give Saints more assuranse he is actualy fit before they commit to buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 We have made some pretty dreadful signings lately but I swear I have never been as furious with a particular signing as with this one. Four separate long term knee injuries in his career. FOUR FFS! Furious? Get a grip man, it’s football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I think the answer is to buy another Charlie Austin (good scorer but injury prone). Maybe two more. It's ideal: we get them cheap, they won't bugger off after one season, and hopefully at least one will be fit while the other(s) are in the physio room. Not as cheap as I would've liked. But any semi-decent injury-prone striker is better than nothing (or the donkey). I hope if he scores he doesn't celebrate with one of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck7tFH9R1kE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 How strange, people seem genuinely angry about it. Odd. Probably the same weirdos who hated Pelle, Tadic and thought 36m for Mane was mugging Liverpool. Oh, and that Forster is just in a ‘poor run of form’. And Hoedt is ‘guaranteed to improve’ #worstjudgesofplayerabilityever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Ings isn’t one of them. Hope this helps Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Always was on the radar, expect a loan out or two soon. [emoji1303] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Les Reed looks off the scale on the smugometer, which is remarkable after last season. He’s an absolute turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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