Pamplemousse Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Wonder what this means for Gallagher and Long? Long is better as a winger, he isn't a goalscorer but his pace out wide caused a few teams problems last season. Gallagher can be our Crouch, we throw him on with 15 minutes to go when we need a goal and we're going route one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Thought he was at the Liverpool saints semi final when at Burnley jumping about when we scored Not sure about that, but grew up with him (from same area and went to the same school), he’s not a ‘fan’. Obviously has an affiliation with the club being born and living in Netley, but was generally always resentful that he wasn’t good enough for us (as a nipper). If he was such a fan and wanted to play for the club that much, he wouldn’t have chosen Liverpool over us when he was at Burnley. FWIW we’ve been in contact with him for a few month (think I said this previously) we just wouldn’t pay £20m that Liverpool wanted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Could be decent, hope he finds his form. It improves our strikeforce so nothing to whinge about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 That was Vokes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Voksey and his old man are big saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Not sure about that, but grew up with him (from same area and went to the same school), he’s not a ‘fan’. Obviously has an affiliation with the club being born and living in Netley, but was generally always resentful that he wasn’t good enough for us (as a nipper). If he was such a fan and wanted to play for the club that much, he wouldn’t have chosen Liverpool over us when he was at Burnley. FWIW we’ve been in contact with him for a few month (think I said this previously) we just wouldn’t pay £20m that Liverpool wanted for him. Do players sign for clubs they support over much bigger clubs who pay more money then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Long is better as a winger, he isn't a goalscorer but his pace out wide caused a few teams problems last season. Gallagher can be our Crouch, we throw him on with 15 minutes to go when we need a goal and we're going route one. Last time I saw him play, he was woeful in the air. Strange for such a big lad. Has he improved in that department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 With his injury record, this will surely be a 'pay as you play deal' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Not sure about that, but grew up with him (from same area and went to the same school), he’s not a ‘fan’. Obviously has an affiliation with the club being born and living in Netley, but was generally always resentful that he wasn’t good enough for us (as a nipper). If he was such a fan and wanted to play for the club that much, he wouldn’t have chosen Liverpool over us when he was at Burnley. FWIW we’ve been in contact with him for a few month (think I said this previously) we just wouldn’t pay £20m that Liverpool wanted for him. You’d sign for saints over Liverpool just because you support them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Loan with view to perm. would be a good move IMO. Loan with obligation to buy however would be a desperate gamble. Which is it? Decent hungry player but huge risk if the latter due to the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Long is better as a winger, he isn't a goalscorer but his pace out wide caused a few teams problems last season. Gallagher can be our Crouch, we throw him on with 15 minutes to go when we need a goal and we're going route one. Expect Gallagher will go out on loan now, probably Blackburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 He's hungry.But he needs to bulk up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Wouldn’t have had ings atop my shopping list in a month of Sunday’s but disappointed he’s got written off already. Tbh, delighted we’ve got some more competition upfront now and delighted it’s not a permanent deal with his injury record. Definitely better that we try before we buy as it’s lesser risk and more financially prudent. For a change. A big ask for him to rediscover his Burnley form but we should give him all the backing and encouragement we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 You’d sign for saints over Liverpool just because you support them? Personally, yes I would but then I love saints and that’s the only club I could imagine playing for. Obviously I’m not in his shoes and I’m not fortunate enough to have to make that decisiom. Point being, he doesn’t support saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Wouldn’t have had ings atop my shopping list in a month of Sunday’s but disappointed he’s got written off already. Tbh, delighted we’ve got some more competition upfront now and delighted it’s not a permanent deal with his injury record. Definitely better that we try before we buy as it’s lesser risk and more financially prudent. For a change. A big ask for him to rediscover his Burnley form but we should give him all the backing and encouragement we can. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 What harm can it do taking him on loan? None. Won't stop the wa_nkspangles moaning though. Liverpool wanted £20m. £20m! No takers so we nip in. That's good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I’m quite happy with Ings to be honest, not sure why all the negativity. it’s a risk, but unless you play in the proven quality field (and even Man U it seems don’t want to pay for that at current fees) it’s a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Personally, yes I would but then I love saints and that’s the only club I could imagine playing for. Obviously I’m not in his shoes and I’m not fortunate enough to have to make that decisiom. Point being, he doesn’t support saints Yeah he’s a local lad, but not a fan, think people keep getting confused with Vokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 What harm can it do taking him on loan? None. Won't stop the wa_nkspangles moaning though. Liverpool wanted £20m. £20m! No takers so we nip in. That's good business. It obviously depends on the loan fee and how much of his wage we are paying. Personally, I don’t think he improves the team. He’s not any better than Gabbi or Austin and is probably on par with Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Well people wanted another striker and they got one. I assume Ings and Austin are job sharing this season then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I was wary of a permanent signing but a loan with obligation to buy obviously mitigates some of the risk, given Ings’ terrible luck with injuries. If we can get Austin and Ings playing together then at least that is a partnership that has proven to work well, albeit at Championship level. Given the various options we had among our other four strikers I’m not sure there is any natural partnership or chemistry between any of them - though to some extent that hasn’t really been worked on until Hughes came in. Overall, a good window and glad it’s ended on a positive note, with no notable outgoings either. Looking forward to Sunday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Yeah he’s a local lad, but not a fan, think people keep getting confused with Vokes. I would have preferd Vokes if I'm honest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Depending on the structure of the deal, there appears very little downside. Will be interesting to see if Hughes plays Austin and Ings together. Not convinced it would work but we’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I would have preferd Vokes if I'm honest.. So would I but it’s not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Well, we've got our Carillo replacement so mission accomplished in that regard. And a managed risk. But doesn't seem to really improve the first team, just yet more squad meat on first impressions. Good luck to him and hope he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Here he is arriving at Staplewood. . https://goo.gl/images/34hPGq lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Well, we've got our Carillo replacement so mission accomplished in that regard. And a managed risk. But doesn't seem to really improve the first team, just yet more squad meat on first impressions. Good luck to him and hope he does well. What are the odds that Long is starting again by the middle of the campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 7 mins to get it done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Here he is arriving at Staplewood. . https://goo.gl/images/34hPGq Definete pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 We've known we've needed a striker since 2016, so it's a bit odd that we're having to submit an extention. Bit last-ditch, when it shouldn't have been. Still have absolutley no confidence in who is running our recruitment at the moment. We needed another striker though, without question. Glad they finally got one and if fit he's a hell of a lot better than Carillo, we just need to hope he stays fit and we don't end up with a season of Ings and Austin in the treatment room! Still, it's a cheap gamble I guess. Perhaps we were hopeful of getting Welbeck but that one didn’t work out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I should imagine a high number of professional players are in the 'pr1ck' category. You would know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 What harm can it do taking him on loan? None. Won't stop the wa_nkspangles moaning though. Liverpool wanted £20m. £20m! No takers so we nip in. That's good business. Good summation. Again, we didn't let Loserpool **** us over. Well payed Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Can only echo those comments. Fair is fair and whilst saints have done some terrible stuff over the last few years, they should rightly be praised when they try to do something positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 He's said himself that he supported Saints in many interviews Born in Southampton, lived here until he moved to Burnley... wouldn’t say he’s a supporter though. He’s Just brought a new house in Netley. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Both Ings & J-Rod suffered serious injuries and never really found their past form. We sold J-Rod last year and it feels like we've replaced him 12 months later with somebody in a very similar position career-wise. I really hope he proves me wrong and that he will benefit from a fresh start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Any update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 BBC Five Live just said we are confident. Difficult to see this not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 BBC Five Live just said we are confident. Difficult to see this not happening. Les Reed type confident ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathish1987 Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 An obligation to buy generally means they will buy him next season instead of this season. Atleast in Italy it's done generally if they don't have funds this season, so will guarantee to buy him using next season funds. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 What harm can it do taking him on loan? None. Won't stop the wa_nkspangles moaning though. Liverpool wanted £20m. £20m! No takers so we nip in. That's good business. It wont do any harm but that's nowhere near good enough. We needed significant improvement up front and I don't think we've found it. I can still see Austin taking home our golden boot with about 7 goals, like he has for the last 2 years. Mo and Armstrong are unknowns, Ings has a terrible fitness record; 3 goals in 14 games in 8 years. Our recruitment in the final 3rd of the pitch feels like we've made par on the 18th hole. Not bad in itself but we're already 8 shots off the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 At the end of the season Ings would only have one year left on his contract so surely available for a Clyne/Wanyama knock down fee. Loan makes complete sense, hopefully his fitness holds out. Not sure he is the profile of forward we need but he can finish and will have a point to prove. Would be interesting to know if he has been a genuine target through the summer or is a panic signing of sorts? Expect Gallagher will go out on loan, but wonder if we could ship out Long instead and keep SG as 4th choice. If he goes out on loan now then thats him done at Saints I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Long is on big money which is an obstacle to a loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 It wont do any harm but that's nowhere near good enough. We needed significant improvement up front and I don't think we've found it. I can still see Austin taking home our golden boot with about 7 goals, like he has for the last 2 years. Mo and Armstrong are unknowns, Ings has a terrible fitness record; 3 goals in 14 games in 8 years. Our recruitment in the final 3rd of the pitch feels like we've made par on the 18th hole. Not bad in itself but we're already 8 shots off the lead. I think he's only been at Liverpool 3 years rather than 8, and 3 goals in 14 games is nearly a goal every three games..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 It wont do any harm but that's nowhere near good enough. We needed significant improvement up front and I don't think we've found it. I can still see Austin taking home our golden boot with about 7 goals, like he has for the last 2 years. Mo and Armstrong are unknowns, Ings has a terrible fitness record; 3 goals in 14 games in 8 years. Our recruitment in the final 3rd of the pitch feels like we've made par on the 18th hole. Not bad in itself but we're already 8 shots off the lead. are you sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 I'm far from sure about this. There's a huge question over whether he can keep fit, a bigger one over whether he can be anything like his old self and I can't help wondering if this isn't just adding another at the same level as Austin or Long. Think I'd have preferred giving Gallagher a chance. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 is this actually done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 is this actually done? Can't see any confirmation. Suggests maybe fell through. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Can't see any confirmation. Suggests maybe fell through. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Yep, nothing on SSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 That will be the line trotted out no doubt. I have it on good authority (and seem to remember someone on here recently saying something to the same effect) he's quite sure of himself (i.e. bit of a pr*ck) and revelled in our misfortune a few years ago as he is bitter towards us releasing him when he was a kid. Pretty much spot on with this mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grezz Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 Ings is a very good player, at least he was before the injuries. I haven’t seen to much of him since but if he is still the player I once saw then him and Gabbi could make for an excellent pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grezz Posted 9 August, 2018 Share Posted 9 August, 2018 *too Sorry I have spelling OCD, especially when its me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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